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Thread: The Trayvon Martin discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImBatman! View Post
    Im only going off the article that Was posted. She does not seem like a reliable witness.
    I actually watched her testimony and I thought she was credible. O'Mara was very slimy while doing his cross - smug and condescending.
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    Witness Surdyka is on. She said it was "pouring rain" and wondered why someone was out in it. Someone likely will pick up on the word "pouring", as others did not indicate this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    I actually watched her testimony and I thought she was credible. O'Mara was very slimy while doing his cross - smug and condescending.
    ??? Rachel hasn't testified yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
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    Queen you have a way with words like no one else! And my impression of Trayvon is exactly like yours...a baby wannabe gangsta emulating the rappers black teens apparently look up to these days. Which is sad in itself since we have a BLACK PRESIDENT, but that is another subject...that to young black men, rappers are way more cool than black Yale law school grads or a black President.

    Trayvon was exactly like any other slightly rebellious teen. I remember back in my day, hanging out with my friends on a street corner in Berkeley, and a cop saying to us "You maggots move on." We weren't doing anything, just hanging out, not noisy, no drugs, but this guy didn't like the way we looked, in fact hated us...just like Zimmerman hated Trayvon for how he looked and what he imagined Trayvon must be up to. And we know the price Trayvon paid for that.
    GZ has been portrayed as the ultimate gangsta thug with an association with MS13. If that is true, GZ had no room to judge anyone!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    I actually watched her testimony and I thought she was credible. O'Mara was very slimy while doing his cross - smug and condescending.
    Why? O'mara "caught" inconsistancies and the Facebook account. Slightly biased, aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    I actually watched her testimony and I thought she was credible. O'Mara was very slimy while doing his cross - smug and condescending.
    My apologies...I didn't realize she had already testified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImBatman! View Post
    My apologies...I didn't realize she had already testified.
    If you are referring to the girlfriend, she has not testified. It's been indicated perhaps today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    If you are referring to the girlfriend, she has not testified. It's been indicated perhaps today.
    Yes, that is who I was referring to. Thanks Free.
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    I am curious, how many of you would have gone out to help if you would have heard what was going on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper-Creeper View Post
    In itself no. You have no idea how many people you pass in a given day that are doing that to you, but you see it as normal. Perhaps not at night, but in many cases in the store, streets, or even playground. Could have GZ said something, sure but he was not required to as a police officer would. I will admit that it could be considered aggressive, but not to the point were deadly force would be feasible. That came into play as TM escalated the situation.
    TM was minding his own business. Had GM stayed put none of this would have escalated to the point it did. To me that is the crux of this entire thing. had GM used some sense instead of the whole I am gonna show that thug who always gets away, it wouldn't have happened. GM's actions directly resulted in the death of TM. To me that is why he should be convicted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    I am curious, how many of you would have gone out to help if you would have heard what was going on?
    I probably would not have....single mom....my child has no other parent. Just being honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ImBatman! View Post
    My apologies...I didn't realize she had already testified.
    Sorry, I was confused about the witness you were discussing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Sorry, I was confused about the witness you were discussing.
    No worries!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    I am curious, how many of you would have gone out to help if you would have heard what was going on?
    I've done the "good Samaritan" thing before and it's a pain in the ass. You know that saying "No good deed goes unpunished"? Well it's true. Look at the witnesses in this case, they're having their lives dragged under the microscope, as witnessed by that article WT linked about Rachel Jeanel.
    So, no I don't think I'd have intervened physically. I might have let a roar at them to quit it, but beyond that...no.

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    I don't think the defense is getting anywhere with this witness

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    I don't think the defense is getting anywhere with this witness
    She went into "I guess so mode". Her testimony has revealed a couple of things. If she saw GZ get "off" TM, and TM was face down, did she not question how he got shot in the chest. Also, she decided on voice recognition even though she had never heard either one ever speak previously, so she assumed who was who.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    She went into "I guess so mode". Her testimony has revealed a couple of things. If she saw GZ get "off" TM, and TM was face down, did she not question how he got shot in the chest. Also, she decided on voice recognition even though she had never heard either one ever speak previously, so she assumed who was who.
    He was asking her what she "believed" and she tells him over and over, he does not like her answer but it is her answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    He was asking her what she "believed" and she tells him over and over, he does not like her answer but it is her answer
    The answer to any question is NOT "I guess so". So yes, her answers were not there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    He was asking her what she "believed" and she tells him over and over, he does not like her answer but it is her answer
    omg, he is obnoxious. I know he is def and wants to put words in her mouth but he is going to far and looking like a goof. She was an excellent witness and held her own. Prosecution is getting in the swing finally and objecting well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper-Creeper View Post
    DNA was splattered on the concrete, away from said attacker. How does DNA show up on the aggressor if its on the back of the head? MMA style fighting does not always end with bloodshed as you might think and you are implying. Ground pounding, or wrestling is also MMA style of fighting. Grabbing someones head and slamming them to the ground in my opinion qualify that as such.
    If you're bashing a bald head into the concrete, you would get sweat or skin under your finger nails. Spit, hair, skin... It doesn't have to be blood, which is what I assume you're referring to when you say "DNA was splattered" since that makes no sense what so ever.
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    Anyone have a link to a RELIABLE live feed? I've tried about 6 and every GD one craps out or goes in & out! Thx-

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Anyone have a link to a RELIABLE live feed? I've tried about 6 and every GD one craps out or goes in & out! Thx-
    this one is working for me today. it lags sometimes but it doesn't skip any dialog
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    Those dockers really suggest "thug" to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Listen, if no one cares when a crazy noodle walks in and executes children with a gun, no one cares about anything.

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    "Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin

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