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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post
    I wished there was a way to get the image a little lighter. I can see her kneeling. She has her hair tied up in braids. I now wonder is she was not wearing all black clothing because she knew she might get blood on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eliqueang View Post
    I don't know if it's just me but whenever i try to read stuff on WS, the forum just hurts my brain..like the appearance. I just can't handle it. But MDS is 100% better i'm thinking i will go preemie soon after getting a glimpse at the other boards.

    ALSO, now we know that thing was a body bug, may i ask.. what on gods green earth is a body bug?

    and thanks for pics of travis' doggy..adorable!!
    BODYBUGG- http://anomoly.wordpress.com/2009/02/25/bodybuggrevie/

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    Quote Originally Posted by WooFrigginHoo View Post
    She has the camera in front of her face. It looks like her hair is in braids. She is dressed in all black.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Wow..AND, whoever ran the site shut the thread regarding all of this, down.
    Sorry but this is simply not true. They do not let their threads run to hundreds of pages. The attitudes displayed here on this subject are embarassing. The graciousness with which the court observer in question has treated this subject (reposts) is head and shoulders above what I have seen here. You might spend a llittle time on Websleuths before spouting off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahoolie11 View Post
    Exactly!!! I know these shower photos were deleted and therefore the photos are more pixelated when the forensic experts tried to enlarge them. But I still wonder if they could get a clearer image from the source photos, than we can from these googled uploaded ones. Thank you for showing the details and describing what you see in the reflection!
    The arrow pointing to her head!!! IT is actually the camera in front of her face!! Something is going on with an arm though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    The arrow pointing to her head!!! IT is actually the camera in front of her face!! Something is going on with an arm though...
    Where arrow marks face - it is her hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Well, I think this is a very complicated case. He knows it. But somehow this jury seems to want to believe her. If not, why do they keep asking questions..you told so many lies, why should we believe you now? ..when, I really think they need not focus on her words, but the evidence. Seems to me they are focusing on her bullshit words.
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    Jodi?s HUGE FREUDIAN SLIPS while being questioned by the Jury! QUESTIONS 1-77
    (Question numbers courtesy of bermstalker - Thank You)
    (Links courtesy of Tawnidilly - Thank You)

    Q15: ?You told Darrell you wanted to abstain from sex until you were married. If that were the case, why did you have sexual relations with Travis??

    JA Answer: ?Well MY UNDERSTANDING AT THE TIME (oops!)??.Darryl and I did not?.we were not intimate after convention. Shortly thereafter the missionaries began to come over to my house and PREACH ABOUT THE LAW OF CHASTITY (oops!...must back peddle) they didn?t overly preach they mentioned it?ex?explained it briefly, um?.not in great detail I wasn?t comfortable asking these?two young?..kids that I?d just met um?..in detail about it, but Travis and I had intimate conversations and he?.how he explained it to me was that vaginal sex is absolutely off limits and everything else is not as egregious to that law.?

    At 20:13
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypl00pldt4Q



    Q29: ?How did you know Victor?s family??

    JA Answer: ?VICTOR ????? VICTOR ARIAS MY?.MY EX-BOYFRIEND IN COSTA RICA! (oops! ? the guy I made up!) I moved to Cos??..well I didn?t move there but, I went there on an exchange program and lived there for a few weeks in the summer?..blah?..blah ?.. (after a shaky Chihuahua moment she is off & running).

    At 6:54
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lymxsMGQDnY



    Q55: ?Do you know what time you left Travis? house on June 4th 2008??

    JA Answer: ?I DON?T REMEMBER THE EXACT TIME??..BUT AS FAR AS?.. THE DAY TIME?.? [onslaught of objections from both sides]

    At 27:24
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lymxsMGQDnY


    Q58: ?Would it be fair to say, you were upset, he was taking another woman to Cancun??

    JA Answer: ?Um??.No! I wasn?t upset at all actually! [RAISED EYEBROWS, FLYING HAND GESTURES] Cancun was long...it was announced the year before [AUDIBLE TUT] he was taking a babysitter I thought. I didn?t learn that he was taking Mimi Hall until...WELL AFTERWARD.

    At 28:43
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lymxsMGQDnY



    Q65: ?After you shot Travis, why not run out of the house to get away??

    JA Answer: ?Initially that was my attempt. That was why I started running down the hall. THE BEDROOM DOORS WERE CLOSED?? [Juan: ?Objection ? Speculation ? I thought she said after she shot him she didn?t remember?]. ?NO I SAID IT GOT FOGGY AFTER THE SHOT, I REMEMBER THINGS! (Oops!)? [Judge Sherry: ?Over-ruled you may continue?] (Oops! Jodi in a pickle ? realizes what she just said ? think fast shaky Chihuahua) ?Maybe I misunderstood the question?.I thought?.it was after I got body slammed..is that?? [Judge Sherry: ?After you shot Travis, why not run out of the house to get away??] ?Okay! I?m sorry! THAT IS CORRECT! AFTER I SHOT HIM! (Mega Oops!) I didn?t know that I?d shot him but?after the gun went off, [MORE FLYING HANDS] he lunge?.while he was lunging at me we fell over and he was trying to get on top of me [AUDIBLE TUT]???..it?s hard to describe the fear?.blah?.blah?..yeah?.yeah?, ?I don?t remember any specifics, right after that point.?

    At 31:28
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lymxsMGQDnY


    Q77: ?You have pictures of your other finger injuries that include time stamps. Do you any pictures of your finger injury, with time stamps.?

    JA Answer: ?I guess that would be my left finger? Um??..I didn?t take a specific picture showing the injury, but ant picture taken subsequent to JUNE 22nd (Oops Jodi! Are you sure you want to say June? Not January?) would show my ring finger bent. Whether it was like that one in the photo, or anywhere else.?

    At 37:47
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lymxsMGQDnY


    OMG There are so many! Don't even get me started on the inconsistencies!
    oh goodness, so much work you have done, bravo! thanks, niice list.

    May I add on a few

    DIRECT hurt finger story [sorry forgot to mark the link for this one] should be on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEY4f6mDuW4 Day 16 I think
    Hurt finger at work
    no, this was a small bus kind of thing, didn'thave formalities like forms and that kind of thing, just what was minimally req, as far as being a legally documented worker, it was a very less.. wasn't a corporate kind of setting where those kinds of formalities were done.

    Until I bought the Helio, I mean Gus...


    1:13:23
    CAMERA rolled question
    wherever I was STANDING HERE ... [ oops she slipped out of her crouched, kneeling stories]

    Inside Edition 'encouraged me' hum, wasn't a guard this time but someone else that said they were paid $50.00, no wait, she'll change it back to guard encourage in a minute.
    http://youtu.be/LpIB0AmIxWA?t=32m29s

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    The arrow pointing to her head!!! IT is actually the camera in front of her face!! Something is going on with an arm though...
    OMG - I am wondering if I see the barrel of the gun..someone in forensics should see this. I can see her hair in braids ties up on each side, she is kneeling, camera to her face w one hand and then is that the barrel of a gun in the other???

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I'm not sure if this was prosecution or defense. But the jury has seen them!



    Thank you for posting.... These are so revealing. Clearly Travis knew something was wrong with her. The fact that he uses words like sociopath and evil. Why he couldn't or didn't follow his instincts to stay away from her, we will never know. Perhaps, he was just addicted to her sexually....

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    JUROR QUESTION: Did you tie your braids to either side of your head?

    I had assume she wore it down. From the eye reflection, she tied them up on each side of the head, put on all black clothing.

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    I swear I see the barrel of a gun in that reflection. She is holding camera with one hand, the other one is holding a gun.

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    poppym OOPS, I had a multi quote stuck in there yet and it landed in with you. Sorry, it was unintentional lol

    I have a question for anyone out there that has her eyesight. If you are nearsighted, would you be able to see what was supposedly the pedo pic at your feet?
    Im the opposite, farsighted so can't try it out. would her distance vision 2.0 / 2.5 or whatever she said it was still be able to actually see pics on the floor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    The water id dripping off/running off his face. The shower door was OPEN. All of the shower pics were taken with the door OPEN
    You quoted me

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    oh goodness, so much work you have done, bravo! thanks, niice list.

    May I add on a few

    DIRECT hurt finger story [sorry forgot to mark the link for this one] should be on http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEY4f6mDuW4 Day 16 I think
    Hurt finger at work
    no, this was a small bus kind of thing, didn'thave formalities like forms and that kind of thing, just what was minimally req, as far as being a legally documented worker, it was a very less.. wasn't a corporate kind of setting where those kinds of formalities were done.

    Until I bought the Helio, I mean Gus...


    1:13:23
    CAMERA rolled question
    wherever I was STANDING HERE ... [ oops she slipped out of her crouched, kneeling stories]

    Inside Edition 'encouraged me' hum, wasn't a guard this time but someone else that said they were paid $50.00, no wait, she'll change it back to guard encourage in a minute.
    http://youtu.be/LpIB0AmIxWA?t=32m29s
    Brilliant!! Thanks!! Didn't know quotes show up as question marks so my lists reads a bit strange! I copied and pasted from Word Doc, maybe that's why. Nice catch about the kneeling and standing slip!! And yes, the injury at work thing! There is one I've yet to find where she talks about protecting Travis' ego, quickly changes it to reputation. I think she is much more rattled by the Jury's questions that Juan's. They are spotting all the BS for sure!


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    Quote Originally Posted by morbidT View Post
    That is most definitely NOT a pool of blood. It IS most definitely a drain. It's a tiny shower with a drain in the center. If it was a pool of blood, I think it wouldn't have perfect edges and we would see some 'wash' from a running shower. If he was stabbed in that picture, I think we would also see blood running down his body.
    The blackness under his buttocks looks too big to be a drain. Notice how the pool is expanded under him towards the shower back wall, towards his other leg ( which is not shown). If she stabbed him in the back, you would not see blood running down this chest. Also underneath his leg you see lighter reddish discoloration. Could be blood mixed with water. If this picture was accidentally taken right after she stabbed him once or twice in the back, then there would not be a great deal of blood yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shahoolie11 View Post
    Good point!! That's why earlier I mentioned that last Tuesday during her testimony, she mentioned that while visiting Travis one time, she and Travis had been looking at some website that was all about the human body, function and organ location, etc... I wonder if she studied that website fully, to know where the vena cava was located, fatal wound locations, etc... makes sense that she would read up on that first. So brutal to use a knife anyway. It's a real angry weapon to use. A hate-filled murder.
    That makes sense. You can see her kneeling in his eye reflection. She has the camera, her hair is tied up in braids on either side to look like buns. All dark clothing.

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    These poor jurors have been held hostage by Nurmi and Jodi for over a month now. At least we can walk away when we want (I usually just fall asleep. Seriously, Wormi is better than any sleep aid I've ever tried). It's like we have an American hostage crisis going on in that courtroom!

    If these jurors do the right thing and convict her of 1st degree murder, they'll be American heroes! If not, they'll end up like the CA jurors. Hiding out with "no comment". I worry that since this is such a high profile case, the power will go to someone's head and they'll get passive/aggressive during deliberations. Like the Phil Spector trial; one guy who declared himself foreman and hung the whole case.

    But I gotta have faith that this jury has brought their common sense with them to court every day...or I'd go bonkers!

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenstein View Post
    P.S.-Has anyone else given a reach-around to a spider-monkey whilst reciting the pledge of allegiance, or is that fairly uncommon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sweetharmony View Post
    Sorry but this is simply not true. They do not let their threads run to hundreds of pages. The attitudes displayed here on this subject are embarassing. The graciousness with which the court observer in question has treated this subject (reposts) is head and shoulders above what I have seen here. You might spend a llittle time on Websleuths before spouting off.

    Maybe I'm having a reading comprehension fail, but if you like WS so much more than MDS, why are you here? You're telling someone else not to "spout off" about another website, yet, you are "spouting off" about this one?

    Are you saying you want this thread shut down because it's "hundreds of pages?"


    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    ..... it wasn't anything personal, she just mistook him for a serial killer......

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlassHat View Post
    All of this.

    It's clear, at least to me, that Travis was posing in some of those pictures. I think the frustrated looks and the off-guard shots of him were just more of "OK, enough is enough. I'm over it and my roommates will be home soon so you have to gtfo of here now hoochie."

    I'm not convinced he was shot last either. The gun casing being on top of the blood spot on the floor could have gotten there by any means. The casing could have dropped in another location on the floor, kicked and landed on top of the blood spot. There was blood everywhere in that bathroom, so finding a blood spot for a casing to land on wouldn't have been hard.
    The fact that the sides of the casing did not have blood on them, convince me that she shot him last. In front of the shower. There was very little blood left, or he was dead. So, no splatter. I believe the gun was only as a last resort since (presumably the one she stole from her gparent's house) would or could be linked to her in some manner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    Brilliant!! Thanks!! Didn't know quotes show up as question marks so my lists reads a bit strange! I copied and pasted from Word Doc, maybe that's why. Nice catch about the kneeling and standing slip!! And yes, the injury at work thing! There is one I've yet to find where she talks about protecting Travis' ego, quickly changes it to reputation. I think she is much more rattled by the Jury's questions that Juan's. They are spotting all the BS for sure!

    I don't think it reads odd, anyone following will be able to appreciate and know what it is. A work of art! Will you be keeping a running list, that would be wonderful to have. I don't know how you had the patience. Since you've done so much already, would you be interested in maintaining the list and just input more? I'd be willing to try and capture them in the future better and help cut the wear and tear of headaches down if you would like. Be a nice list to have from time to time. Not that the jury reads the internet lol even though it seems by questions like they do.

    Might be word, I copy some things I have in there too but never connected the two. My lower case G's show up as q's too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    thanks

    I'm worried. Who is trying to help her with that stupid question about Travis picking up the camera after he's been shot in the head? WTF, only an idiot would think a man shot in the head is picking up anything let alone carrying it around for photos. There were stupid questions early on that worried me we have some complete idiot on this jury. One example is which ever one asked did you find the knife AFTER it had been told to them THREE times, the weapons were never found in testimony. Now we get pedo questions AFTER Juan spent an entire half day proving it was impossible for that masterbation story to be true.


    Not me lol . I no nothing re FB or any of that modern stuff. I tried reading there a few times, it gave me a headache. Honestly, I don't go for any of the salicious nonsense like body language, stars BS anyway. I've said before and will say again, they are charlatens feeding off gullible. IF they had any powers at all they'd be solvilng muders not earning their living off their own BS that benefits no one but themselves.

    Not cropped. The sitting photos are what JM put on the court ELMO complete.


    Not exactly true or what happened.

    Sony H9 dose not have that kind of timer. It only has a one shot delay type with two settings like you use if you want to be in the pic and that means it only takes one then its done.

    Last I checked he has 2 others active cases right now also. Aw, sweet but sorry, no FB here.
    I think we have some stong jurors. Perhaps we'll see felony murder, which is LWOP.
    I pray we get lucky on the draw when they elminate the alternates.
    Well, I have seen the retina images of her kneeling. She is holding the camera. So, no timer. Wished someone could magnify the image of that reflection. Her hair is tied on each side of her head. She had braids, so she did not undo them. She tied them on each side to form a knot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    The fact that the sides of the casing did not have blood on them, convince me that she shot him last. In front of the shower. There was very little blood left, or he was dead. So, no splatter. I believe the gun was only as a last resort since (presumably the one she stole from her gparent's house) would or could be linked to her in some manner.
    If she gets LWP, I can see her in her 60's, giving an interview to Candice De Long, and still not telling what happened - sequence of events! I predict she'll be a Diane Downs, Betty Broderick type! Denial until dementia!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VioletPlanet View Post
    Thank you for posting.... These are so revealing. Clearly Travis knew something was wrong with her. The fact that he uses words like sociopath and evil. Why he couldn't or didn't follow his instincts to stay away from her, we will never know. Perhaps, he was just addicted to her sexually....
    WOW..his words are haunting..So sad for him. I feel terrible for him to have lost his life to this evil piece of shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VioletPlanet View Post
    The blackness under his buttocks looks too big to be a drain. Notice how the pool is expanded under him towards the shower back wall, towards his other leg ( which is not shown). If she stabbed him in the back, you would not see blood running down this chest. Also underneath his leg you see lighter reddish discoloration. Could be blood mixed with water. If this picture was accidentally taken right after she stabbed him once or twice in the back, then there would not be a great deal of blood yet.
    I doubt he'd be just sitting there once he was stabbed. As soon as she started stabbing him his instincts would be to get the Hell out of the corner she'd put him in. Fight or flight would have kicked in and he wouldn't be sitting. And the stab wounds to his back were horrendous gaping wounds. There would be loads of blood by then streaming down behind him in the shower. The water pressure was poor in the upstairs part of the house. I just can't see how it's possible.

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenstein View Post
    P.S.-Has anyone else given a reach-around to a spider-monkey whilst reciting the pledge of allegiance, or is that fairly uncommon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    I don't think it reads odd, anyone following will be able to appreciate and know what it is. A work of art! Will you be keeping a running list, that would be wonderful to have. I don't know how you had the patience. Since you've done so much already, would you be interested in maintaining the list and just input more? I'd be willing to try and capture them in the future better and help cut the wear and tear of headaches down if you would like. Be a nice list to have from time to time. Not that the jury reads the internet lol even though it seems by questions like they do.

    Might be word, I copy some things I have in there too but never connected the two. My lower case G's show up as q's too.
    Yes! I want to do all the Jury questions at least. I only stopped because it's the very wee hours here and time for a sleepy tea-bag. But it's not tedious. She is quite a fascination! More to come before Wednesday!!


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