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Thread: The Trayvon Martin discussion

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Anyone have a link to a RELIABLE live feed? I've tried about 6 and every GD one craps out or goes in & out! Thx-
    And we in Florida have too many stations doing live coverage. I'd give you one if I could!!!

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    I am watching on Wild About Trial - http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zim...ve-stream.html

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    On the gun issue, I just talked to (I live in the South where people are batshit crazy for guns) my boss who is a proud lifetime NRA member (UGH but in this instance useful). He said it is not required to carry a concealed weapon with a live round in it unless it is a revolver. He also indicated you are not TAUGHT to carry a gun with a live round in it. If it has a safety mechanism he says most people do (which I still think isn't safe, but that is just my opinion). Like with a Glock (not sure of spelling here) you wouldn't cause it doesn't have a safety mechanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    Those dockers really suggest "thug" to me.
    Very suspicious aren't they!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarabei View Post
    On the gun issue, I just talked to (I live in the South where people are batshit crazy for guns) my boss who is a proud lifetime NRA member (UGH but in this instance useful). He said it is not required to carry a concealed weapon with a live round in it unless it is a revolver. He also indicated you are not TAUGHT to carry a gun with a live round in it. If it has a safety mechanism he says most people do (which I still think isn't safe, but that is just my opinion). Like with a Glock (not sure of spelling here) you wouldn't cause it doesn't have a safety mechanism.
    Yeah. I went through gun training when I studied criminal justice, and we were specifically trained to not carry a live round. But, other states and training programs can be different.
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    Listen, if no one cares when a crazy noodle walks in and executes children with a gun, no one cares about anything.

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    the minute she walked in I thought, I bet that is witness 17, MMAJohnn's wife and she is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    Yeah. I went through gun training when I studied criminal justice, and we were specifically trained to not carry a live round. But, other states and training programs can be different.
    Yeah each state is different, and as we ALL know Florida is serious about their cray cray!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    the minute she walked in I thought, I bet that is witness 17, MMAJohnn's wife and she is.
    oops, wrong John
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    If you're bashing a bald head into the concrete, you would get sweat or skin under your finger nails. Spit, hair, skin... It doesn't have to be blood, which is what I assume you're referring to when you say "DNA was splattered" since that makes no sense what so ever.
    It is laughable that one person uses the term MMA style and everyone picks it up and runs with it. Is there any evidence that Trayvon has this type of training? Or that he was even a fan??
    The only one that I have heard having training was GZ, who went to a martial arts gym. This sounds like some guy who watches that type of fighting and uses it as an adverb and now the defense has picked that up and run with it.
    I wonder how many of the females on the jury are even familiar with what that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    It is laughable that one person uses the term MMA style and everyone picks it up and runs with it. Is there any evidence that Trayvon has this type of training? Or that he was even a fan??
    The only one that I have heard having training was GZ, who went to a martial arts gym. This sounds like some guy who watches that type of fighting and uses it as an adverb and now the defense has picked that up and run with it.
    I wonder how many of the females on the jury are even familiar with what that is?
    Just because one person in an altercation might be trained in martial arts fashion fighting, does not mean any fight they have with any joe-schmo is going to be "MMA style". It takes two for that shit. I don't even know how anyone can even talk about that likeliness.

    If anything, if GZ was trained in martial arts, and he still needed to use a gun to eliminate his threat, he's an embarrassment to himself and the world of martial arts.
    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Listen, if no one cares when a crazy noodle walks in and executes children with a gun, no one cares about anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    It is laughable that one person uses the term MMA style and everyone picks it up and runs with it. Is there any evidence that Trayvon has this type of training? Or that he was even a fan??
    The only one that I have heard having training was GZ, who went to a martial arts gym. This sounds like some guy who watches that type of fighting and uses it as an adverb and now the defense has picked that up and run with it.
    I wonder how many of the females on the jury are even familiar with what that is?
    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    Just because one person in an altercation might be trained in martial arts fashion fighting, does not mean any fight they have with any joe-schmo is going to be "MMA style". It takes two for that shit. I don't even know how anyone can even talk about that likeliness.

    If anything, if GZ was trained in martial arts, and he still needed to use a gun to eliminate his threat, he's an embarrassment to himself and the world of martial arts.
    Pure, PURE speculation and conjecture on my part, but could that be why MMAJohn changed his story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by strmmrgrrl View Post
    Pure, PURE speculation and conjecture on my part, but could that be why MMAJohn changed his story?
    That would be my theory.
    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    Listen, if no one cares when a crazy noodle walks in and executes children with a gun, no one cares about anything.

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    Going to be really interesting to watch Zimmerman and his team explain why Zimmerman said after he shot Trayvon he turned him over onto his back and spread his arms out to restrain him but Trayvon was found face down and his arms were under him.
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    @WildAboutTrial

    #Zimmerman's sister is in the front row wearing a white jacket and salmon shirt underneath. His parents are not allowed in courtroom.


    O'Mara needs to have a seat - he's digging himself in deeper with every question. Defense isn't having a very good day so far
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    @WildAboutTrial

    #Zimmerman's sister is in the front row wearing a white jacket and salmon shirt underneath. His parents are not allowed in courtroom.


    O'Mara needs to have a seat - he's digging himself in deeper with every question. Defense isn't having a very good day so far
    their style repeated over and over is making them look like bullyies and its not the end of the first week yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    their style repeated over and over is making them look like bullyies and its not the end of the first week yet.
    I'm way behind ya'll because I'm watching on HLN (press "pause" one more friggin time!), but holy shit - this "lets ask the same question 30 times until the answer changes' crap is annoying.
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    Getting arrested for coke in Vegas is like being found eating a chocolate bar in the willy wonka factory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by strmmrgrrl View Post
    I'm way behind ya'll because I'm watching on HLN (press "pause" one more friggin time!), but holy shit - this "lets ask the same question 30 times until the answer changes' crap is annoying.
    HLN, wow you have my sympathy!

    The last two were weaker women. I can't wait for them to get someone strong enough to call them out on it ..
    'I answered that several times for you already'
    'I know you want me to say what you want, but I keep telling you what I saw and heard.

    Best news of the day though is GZs obsessed 911s are coming in! This creep has wannabe munchausen. I was reading some 911s the jury won't hear. They go back to 2004. This sick prick calls 911 for
    Somone driving thru apt complex parking lot slow--- w music loud. [if they went fast you know he'd call saying they were going too fast for as complex lot]
    Pot Holes [more than once over the yrs]
    Stray dog [this wanna be just wants police contact and refuses to use the right agencies ]
    Guy locked out of his car with friend helping him try to get in it and wanna be sics the cops on him.
    GZ's ex roommate is letting in ppl he doesn't like
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    Quote Originally Posted by strmmrgrrl View Post
    I'm way behind ya'll because I'm watching on HLN (press "pause" one more friggin time!), but holy shit - this "lets ask the same question 30 times until the answer changes' crap is annoying.
    And then the State gets redirect and clears it all back up again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    HLN, wow you have my sympathy!

    The last two were weaker women. I can't wait for them to get someone strong enough to call them out on it ..
    'I answered that several times for you already'
    'I know you want me to say what you want, but I keep telling you what I saw and heard.

    Best news of the day though is GZs obsessed 911s are coming in! This creep has wannabe munchausen. I was reading some 911s the jury won't hear. They go back to 2004. This sick prick calls 911 for
    Somone driving thru apt complex parking lot slow--- w music loud. [if they went fast you know he'd call saying they were going too fast for as complex lot]
    Pot Holes [more than once over the yrs]
    Stray dog [this wanna be just wants police contact and refuses to use the right agencies ]
    Guy locked out of his car with friend helping him try to get in it and wanna be sics the cops on him.
    GZ's ex roommate is letting in ppl he doesn't like
    Wonder if they get to play the one where he calls report a "suspicious looking black kid - approx age 7-9 yrs old!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Wonder if they get to play the one where he calls report a "suspicious looking black kid - approx age 7-9 yrs old!"
    Yea, those punks always get away. Lemme go chase him.

    Sounds like someone who's scared to me.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Wonder if they get to play the one where he calls report a "suspicious looking black kid - approx age 7-9 yrs old!"
    Doubt it .. didn't they say Aug 2011- Feb 2012, right?

    36. April 22, 2011 ? 7:09 p.m.
    Type: TEL
    Subject: Suspicious activity
    Report: Juvenile black male ?apprx 7?9? years old, four feet tall ?skinny build short blk hair? last seen wearing a blue t-shirt and blue shorts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Wonder if they get to play the one where he calls report a "suspicious looking black kid - approx age 7-9 yrs old!"
    Just to make you happy, I hope they do. Don't plan on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Yea, those punks always get away. Lemme go chase him.

    Sounds like someone who's scared to me.
    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Doubt it .. didn't they say Aug 2011- Feb 2012, right?

    36. April 22, 2011 ? 7:09 p.m.
    Type: TEL
    Subject: Suspicious activity
    Report: Juvenile black male ?apprx 7?9? years old, four feet tall ?skinny build short blk hair? last seen wearing a blue t-shirt and blue shorts
    Can you believe this guy?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Can you believe this guy?!
    4 ft tall, wtf! Seriously, regardless if he walks or not, this guy needs psych lock up.


    here ya go Sneakers

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    Paula Deen just lost another contract with Vegas Hotels....She can become the new chef at the prison #zimmerman goes to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Can you believe this guy?!
    He seems like the neighborhood crazy guy, and he finally snapped. Normal people don't do shit like this.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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