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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    I'm guessing that the jurors are hung up on giving the murderess the DP or LWP!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post

    BUT I AM INCREDIBLY ALARMED THAT IT HAS HIS AUTOPSY PICS AND IT HAS THE MDS LOGO ON IT {{not good}}

    This is great and bad for the owner of this site.

    There is a great chance there will be a lot more views on this site now to check it out.

    But he also now has a chance at being murdered.

    Tough to know whether to cheer or jeer right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    I'm guessing that the jurors are hung up on giving the murderess the DP or LWP!
    They're only deciding guilt at this point. DP or LWOP are not part of these deliberations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloItsMe View Post
    I don't think it was ever stated definitively. But, here's what I noted:

    Exhibits 56, 57, 268 & 269 are pictures of the fiber found on the stairs and marked as evidence Item # 43.

    Exhibits 78, 80, 265, & 266 are pictures of a fiber found in the bathroom, marked as evidence Item #3.

    Exhibits 270 & 271 are pictures of another fiber found in the bathroom, marked as Item #8.

    Exhibit 63 is a photo of the pillows on the chair in Travis's bedroom. The fringe has fibers similar to Item #3 found in the bathroom.

    Exhibit 68 is a photo of Travis's flipflops in his bedroom. The flipflops have fibers similar to Item #43 on the stairs and Item #8 in the bathroom.

    I can't remember if the similarities noted were my own thoughts or what was said in testimony. I can go listen to it again if others think this is wrong.

    It was Detective Flores that stated these similarities on Day 2 of testimony, based on his observations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    This is exactly what I hope the jury can focus on if any of them are unsure about her planning to murder him. JM's outline of what constitutes premeditated murder uses the slit throat as a clear indication that she intended to kill him. Premeditation was formed just before she slit his throat in a purposeful, precise manner.
    This. They're taking too long when that's all they need to focus on was the intent to kill even if it was just seconds or minutes. (even though we know it was more than that). There was time to ponder and she made the choice to finish him off with the throat cut. JM laid it all out there for them.
    I can see them having issues with DP or Life but not guilt. They're taking too long.

    ETA: I predicted they would be done by tomorrow afternoon. But now that I sit here and think about it, I think it should be sooner - as in within a few hours - but maybe my prediction will come true.
    Last edited by M Joy; 05-06-2013 at 01:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    It had the absolutely more horrifying death pics of Travis. The facial closeup on the autopsy table and the neck slit.

    I don't understand what is wrong with people. Even if someone thinks Jodi is innocent, that was SO FAR over the line. Ugh.
    Just realized your post was in response to the Twitter asshole. Sorry, I need to slow down and read more carefully before I reply. The sickos are out in full force today it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishmich View Post
    Thanks, Sheesh. That was a great interview. It can't be coincidence that many of us think she was blackmailing him with that ridiculous sex tape. I find it interesting that she was going to "see a lawyer". Wonder if it was a PPL lawyer. Ugh. She makes me sick.
    She couldn't afford to pay attention, never mind a lawyer. She claimed, on the witness stand, that she was consulting a lawyer over the BMW and trying to blame it whoever helped her load on the dolly at the rental place (UHaul?)

    She kept repeating "I was consulting my lawyer like had one on retainer. She's so outlandish and ridiculous!
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    Originally Posted by olgasbunghole
    I'm guessing that the jurors are hung up on giving the murderess the DP or LWP!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    They're only deciding guilt at this point. DP or LWOP are not part of these deliberations.
    thanks for setting me straight..... I thought that they needed to make that decision with Murder 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    I'm guessing that the jurors are hung up on giving the murderess the DP or LWP!
    That is not the phase that they are in. While deliberating in the guilt phase they aren't supposed to be thinking about punishment. All they should be deliberating are M1-M2-Manslaughter or Acquittal

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    This. They're taking too long when that's all they need to focus on was the intent to kill even if it was just seconds or minutes. (even though we know it was more than that). There was time to ponder and she made the choice to finish him off with the throat cut. JM laid it all out there for them.
    I can see them having issues with DP or Life but not guilt. They're taking too long.

    ETA: I predicted they would be done by tomorrow afternoon. But now that I sit here and think about it, I think it should be sooner - as in within a few hours - but maybe my prediction will come true.
    I feel like they are taking to long as well. I'm a tad worried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Re; The sick Bastard who is using Travis' name & putting out vulgar tweets at https://twitter.com/TravisAlexndr
    ___ It shows suspended then it's back to normal___

    BUT I AM INCREDIBLY ALARMED THAT IT HAS HIS AUTOPSY PICS AND IT HAS THE MDS LOGO ON IT {{not good}}
    Aww, c'mon. Do we really need to see that??? Link would have sufficed, imo.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    She couldn't afford to pay attention...
    Love those jokes. She was so poor she couldn't afford to pay homage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tiggrrl72077 View Post
    I have a .22 and its not very loud.
    How long is the barrel? Is it like this:



    Or this:



    I have a .22 semi-auto (the model in the second picture), and it's quite loud. I've heard .22 target pistols that weren't nearly as loud.

    Barrel length makes a big difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncy View Post
    This is great and bad for the owner of this site.

    There is a great chance there will be a lot more views on this site now to check it out.

    But he also now has a chance at being murdered.

    Tough to know whether to cheer or jeer right now.
    I think it's Bad bad bad... great to have a ton of people introduced to MDS, but certainly not in that bad light, what that little fucker is tweeting about, is insanely demented.

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    Also remember who is on the jury.

    There may be a couple that want the free food. Also there may be some that saw 12 angry men too many times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    I really don't know if a pillow was missing, it is only my speculation. Did the jury hear about the roommates being home during the day on the 3rd or 4th? I missed many parts of the beginning of the trial. I even missed parts that you all have discussed, like Nurmi talking about the gas can returned to a different Walmart. I am constantly getting up and down, and I seem to miss the good stuff. No way will I go back and try to figure out what I missed.

    I don't know if this was addressed, but will there be a live feed coverage of the verdict? I just can't watch HLN.
    Yes, I would think the verdict would be online @ the same places the trial was streaming live.

    About the roomates, She knew their schedule and knew one would return around 6p. So she knew how long she had to clean and get out.

    About the gas can, she testified that she, "brought it back to the same store. It was the walmart next to a starbucks." There are only 2 walmarts in salinas. I'm sure Juan checked that store for a return but because she said it ON TESTIMONY even elaborated about it. This is a great link with both Nurmi and Juan asking JA questions, as well as jury questions.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7anECy6Tyo
    BTW she wanted cheap gas OUT of state, yet she filled up all of them in southern california, the most expensive gas in the country. Weird.

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    Chris Hughes chilling out talking to HLN Katie and the rest of her crew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Sitting next to Katie Wick....AGAIN! Ian and I are going to try to get in if there is a verdict. No one in line except like 4 of us.
    Hi, guys!!!!! So exciting that you were able to meet up! We are all there with you, in spirit!! :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Chris Hughes chilling out talking to HLN Katie and the rest of her crew.
    Where are you? What are you doing all this time?

    Are you going to give MDS a shoutout when JVM interviews you???

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Chris Hughes chilling out talking to HLN Katie and the rest of her crew.

    YOu're there? Doing something epic. Streak while screaming mydeathspace.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by nestlequikie View Post
    FWIW, regarding the noise of a gun - don't discount ambient noise particularly the insular effect of air conditioning (therefore no windows open) during a Phoenix, AZ summer.
    Good point, I had not thought about the AC running and the noise that would make.

    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    ..then to top it off she goes back and continues to have sex with him, knowing in the back of her brain that he's fantisizing about doing the backdoor sneak on a little boy while he's banging her three car garage...I DON'T THINK SO!!!!
    No kidding. Pedophilia does not work that way. Pedophiles aren't into 6 year old boys AND 12 year old girls AND grown women with large fake racks. It just does not work that way at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    She couldn't afford to pay attention, never mind a lawyer. She claimed, on the witness stand, that she was consulting a lawyer over the BMW and trying to blame it whoever helped her load on the dolly at the rental place (UHaul?)

    She kept repeating "I was consulting my lawyer like had one on retainer. She's so outlandish and ridiculous!
    Mean, funny and true. A trifecta!



    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    I'm guessing that the jurors are hung up on giving the murderess the DP or LWP!
    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    They're only deciding guilt at this point. DP or LWOP are not part of these deliberations.
    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    thanks for setting me straight..... I thought that they needed to make that decision with Murder 1.
    Actually, the jury is specifically instructed that during the deliberations about guilt, they are not allowed to consider the penalty at all. From the jury instructions:

    JURY NOT TO CONSIDER THE PENALTY
    You must decide whether the defendant is guilty or not guilty by
    determining what the facts in the case are and applying these jury
    instructions.
    You must not consider the possible punishment when deciding on
    guilt.

    Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
    Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncy View Post
    YOu're there? Doing something epic. Streak while screaming mydeathspace.com
    Ok, I'll admit it. For the first time ever, I like a Chauncy post.

    Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
    Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA

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    Elizabeth Erwin ‏@elizabetherwin 5m
    Jurors in the #JodiArias trial have already deliberated longer than the #OJSimpson jury.
    Wow. I did not remember that. SMH

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post
    Where are you? What are you doing all this time?

    Are you going to give MDS a shoutout when JVM interviews you???
    I am so jealous.......they get to be that close to Juan! *sigh*

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    Is there a way to get a text only when the jury has reached a verdict?

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    5/6/13, 4:15 PM
    for those waiting on the verdict..Seems AZ. takes their sweet time. #jodiarias Here's a good read on AZ. jury's bit.ly/13nWPTL

    After the many months of trial, months during which the rest of us are free to opine and vent to our heart's content, the jurors have direly pent up emotions. They have not been allowed to review testimony or evidence with each other during the trial, nor with anyone else, not even their spouses.
    Juror #5 on Jodi's jury was let go precisely because the defense successfully argued she had revealed an opinion.

    So what tends to happen on the first day in the privacy and freedom of the deliberation room at last is a spewing forth of emotions and opinions. The discussion, such as it is, will be chaotic and emotional. Only later, when the 12 have been able to process their feelings about the gruesome photos they have seen and the hours of testimony they have sat through with poker faces, will they get down to work.

    This, I have often seen, is the time when the awesome responsibility of what they are about to do sets in. In the Arizona juries in the above cases, rather than simply taking a vote, they systematically start going through the evidence. They make sure they each understand an item and they will deliberate on its meaning.

    And then something similar occurs with the jury instructions, too. They may read and re-read different portions of the instruction, persuading each other along the way.
    Last edited by M Joy; 05-06-2013 at 01:45 PM.

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