Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[Sandral]

Jilli, hope I spelled that right. I agree with u 100% the DT is just grasping at straws. They presented their case with those good for nothing Starr witnesses now finish already. Give it too the jury. Like the jury doesn't already know she is guilty as hell and another doctor really can't make her look any better.

[Ruthven]

Judge better not let the DT unleash this surrebuttal torture. What if this trial never ends!

[TeamRenew]

So, basically in the most simplistic way I can articulate it, the Arias defense (at the eleventh hour) wants to introduce a few alternative outcomes for that skank that are all beneficial to HER as well as decide to throw more witnesses into this crapfest and prolong it even more? Is that inaccurate at all?

Their arrogance and disrespect for the judicial system, jury & family members enduring this farce is appalling.

Unfortunately, lameass judge Stephens is likely to allow this shit to go down.

[Jillee]

Wow.... Estrella jail... I thought it was more structured and strict.http://youtu.be/WjhGGJx2M_k

[Jillee]

Can you locate the relevant CV so we can start tearing it apart?

So when did yoiu start developing feelings for the defendant... how many years did you... how much are you paid... etc

NO MORE CV'S! Oh, kill me now!

Jilli, hope I spelled that right. I agree with u 100% the DT is just grasping at straws. They presented their case with those good for nothing Starr witnesses now finish already. Give it too the jury. Like the jury doesn't already know she is guilty as hell and another doctor really can't make her look any better.

Yup! Enough is enough. Even if she does have PTSD, BPD, XYZPDQ, it doesn't take away the fact that she premeditated his murder.

[loonywop]

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[Rockabillychick]

So, assuming for shits and giggles, this new sur rebuttal witness is allowed. he works with the queen of the dwarves, or supervises her as he is a PHd? what can he possibly say that isn't a regurgitation of what the last defense relic said? what would be that point? have jurors saw their arm or leg off to get out of jury duty at this point?

That is what I am thinking. I think that they are trying to prolong this so that the jurors start saying "screw you guys, I'm going home". As NCBlonde said many pages ago. "Nurmi is thinking 2 down, 5 to go"

[Jillee]

MsTabularasa strikes again.http://youtu.be/53AlWLgAmfY

[Angiebla]

So, basically in the most simplistic way I can articulate it, the Arias defense (at the eleventh hour) wants to introduce a few alternative outcomes for that skank that are all beneficial to HER as well as decide to throw more witnesses into this crapfest and prolong it even more? Is that inaccurate at all?

Their arrogance and disrespect for the judicial system, jury & family members enduring this farce is appalling.


Unfortunately, lameass judge Stephens is likely to allow this shit to go down.

I'm going to be pissed if the judge allows the defense to do a surbuttal. I have been keeping up with trial and want to see it to its end, but I'm losing my patience at a rapid pace. Those poor jurors are prolly burnt out-i feel so bad for them.

[Freethinker]

That is what I am thinking. I think that they are trying to prolong this so that the jurors start saying "screw you guys, I'm going home". As NCBlonde said many pages ago. "Nurmi is thinking 2 down, 5 to go"

You beat me to it. I was just thinking we might lose another juror this week. It's one thing to serve for 4 months if the case is productive. Right now it's just about psychology, absolutely nothing about evidence or anything on that line.

[M Joy]

The State objects

4/22/2013

OBJ - Objection/Opposition. - Party (001)


NOTE: OBJECTION TO REQUEST FOR SURREBUTTAL TESTIMONY AND NOTICE OF SURREBUTTAL WITNESS

[Jillee]

The State objects

Oh thank GOD!

[lorizfree]

The State objects

So I'm guessing we won't have any testimony tomorrow. Fucking Nurmi!

[Metis212]

Can you locate the relevant CV so we can start tearing it apart?

So when did yoiu start developing feelings for the defendant... how many years did you... how much are you paid... etc

I am pretty sure I know him :( not to drink beer with, but I know him thru a friend.

[Jillee]

So I'm guessing we won't have any testimony tomorrow. Fucking Nurmi!

This shouldn't have any bearing on tomorrow's proceedings... right? Am I missing something?

[Angiebla]

I am pretty sure I know him :( not to drink beer with, but I know him thru a friend.

Does he really think he can rehabilitate sex offenders?

[M Joy]

So I'm guessing we won't have any testimony tomorrow. Fucking Nurmi!

I really hope this issue doesn't delay the rebuttal case. I would assume that the defense is not allowed to delay the state's case with stuff like this (before the rebuttal case is even done), but I might be thinking too optimistically.

I'm ready to get away from the psychology stuff and to get to some strong premeditation evidence. Another delay would just drive everyone crazy (including the jury, I'm assuming!)

[AnnieBelle]

NO MORE CV'S! Oh, kill me now!



Yup! Enough is enough. Even if she does have PTSD, BPD, XYZPDQ, it doesn't take away the fact that she premeditated his murder.

This clambake is over! The DT has had PLENTY of time to line up witnesses. The state gets a rebuttal. DT should be finished. I pray the judge has some sense of getting this trial over with, and not allowing any unnecessary delays. Defense has tried to throw a wrench into the system countless times. They had their witness...ALV. Let the rebuttal continue, then move on to closings.

[lorizfree]

This shouldn't have any bearing on tomorrow's proceedings... right? Am I missing something?

Just the fact that there may be hearings on these issues could cause delays, if not interrupt any testimony planned for tomorrow, or any other day for that matter.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

THIS! This is exactly what I thought too. Jodi's running this dog and pony show from her side of the courtroom. The worst thing you can do to someone with this type of personality disorder (personally, I think she has histrionic and narcissistic disorders as well) is to unmask them. Fate worse than death for Jodi's kind. I don't think she cares one hoot about being called a murderer. Just don't call her crazy.

She doesn't want the dog and pony show to stop. Once there is a verdict and her fate is decided all of the attention goes away.

Jeffrey Gold on Twitter says JA defense has filed a motion to call Dr. Robert Geffner, PhD as a surrebuttal witness on BPD diagnosis.

I have to wonder if the defense was aware of Dr. DeMarte's diagnosis prior to the trial... one would assume that they WERE--and if so, there is no grounds for a sur-rebuttal (since this evidence was therefore not new).

If he's so wonderful, why didn't they hire him in the first place?

They did. He's already interviewed her. When JM was doing his cross of Stabby on the different lies she'd told to her "experts" she tried to throw this guy's name out there but JM redirected her.

The defense would have been very aware of Dr Demrte's dx of Stabby plus they had the opportunity to interview her prior to trial. The BPD dx was not a surprise to the defense team.

How many freaking experts questioned stabby? No wonder she has the lingo and the buzzwords down, crafted the story ala the "Experts"... interesting to know how many turned down taking her case to date.... anyone know?

Eleven experts turned down the defense request to get involved.

The State objects

I really hope JM prevails here, the defense should have called Dr Geffner during their presentation of their case.

MsTabularasa strikes again.http://youtu.be/53AlWLgAmfY

Morbid_much makes the greatest vids. Her choice of song here was great!

[lorizfree]

I really hope this issue doesn't delay the rebuttal case. I would assume that the defense is not allowed to delay the state's case with stuff like this (before the rebuttal case is even done), but I might be thinking too optimistically.

I'm ready to get away from the psychology stuff and to get to some strong premeditation evidence. Another delay would just drive everyone crazy (including the jury, I'm assuming!)

No kidding. All this psycho babble is tit for tat. Let's get on with some actual evidence already.

[denn]

So, what about Nurmi's petition to the judge to include manslaughter in the heat of passion. He wants the lesser degree added to the jury instructions.

Some of the guests on the talk show said the judge would have to allow the consideration of manslaughter. What is worse, the jury won't get to know there is an argument going on with the attorneys and the prosecutor. They also said that JM is trying to get the video in showing her sleeping in Travis' lap. To prove that she was not a dirty secrete.

[Wishmich]

I understand that the sur-rebuttal is for new evidence. I hadn't realized that Nurmi told the judge he was going to file for one (back in February).
I agree, it would be extremely stupid for the DT to call either ALV or Samuels again. I guess they would have to find someone else? thats what I don't understand. Who else would stand up for JA and try to rebut Dr. Demarte?

Maybe they just want to preemptively file because they're going to want to rebut other witnesses? I guess I'm just not sure.

I think it was one of those HLN reporters in the courtroom that said Nurmi has a *new* witness. I think it was Jinkasaurus that said that this afternoon. I don't think I could stand another witness. She also said that most appeals are overturned due to the jury instructions. I guess that's why Nurmi submitted 50 pages of instructions. Clever. Gotta give him credit for trying everything, including the kitchen sink.

I was thinking about Loonywop and her/his comments which inferred she was used and abused. Then the topic came up about how Travis was so selfish and crappy to have sex with her. Anyhooo...I began thinking about that. I don't understand why Travis is such a horrendous person to some people because he used her for sex. On the flip side, why isn't Jodi getting the same kind of scrutiny? She knew he wasn't going to marry her. SHe knew he didn't want to take her out in public. She claims he abused her, but she kept going back and offering sex, which was the only thing he took advantage of, but she gets a pass. I think what they got out of each other just washes each other's motives out of the equation. They were two inadequate people who filled their needs with the wrong person. If he had murdered her, would she be scrutinized the same as TA is? I doubt it.

The bottom line is that this was premeditated. I can't for the life of me think that a jury can't sift through all the bullshit and not find her guilty of premeditated murder.

[denn]

So, basically in the most simplistic way I can articulate it, the Arias defense (at the eleventh hour) wants to introduce a few alternative outcomes for that skank that are all beneficial to HER as well as decide to throw more witnesses into this crapfest and prolong it even more? Is that inaccurate at all?

Their arrogance and disrespect for the judicial system, jury & family members enduring this farce is appalling.

Unfortunately, lameass judge Stephens is likely to allow this shit to go down.

Yes, she is probably going to allow it and the jurors will not know there was an argument about it. Unfortunately, the defense gets all the breaks. I think that was there game plan from day one. To throw off the prosecution as much as possible. This can be seen with all the side bars. Now, they are hoping to get her off on a manslaughter charge. One of the guest attorneys said that there is going to be a 50 page jury instructions - meaning that some may get frustrated and give up and go w lesser charge. I would hate to see that happen.

[denn]

Yes, she is probably going to allow it and the jurors will not know there was an argument about it. Unfortunately, the defense gets all the breaks. I think that was there game plan from day one. To throw off the prosecution as much as possible. This can be seen with all the side bars. Now, they are hoping to get her off on a manslaughter charge. One of the guest attorneys said that there is going to be a 50 page jury instructions - meaning that some may get frustrated and give up and go w lesser charge. I would hate to see that happen.

Meant to read - their game plan