Wanna bet? he had it THREE ways!Originally Posted by coconut
Wanna bet? he had it THREE ways!
"The difference between theory and reality is this: In theory, there is no difference between the two. In reality, there is."
If you lay down with dogs, you should't be surprised when you wind up with fleAs.
Illegitimi non carborundum!
I missed about half of Dr. Drew, so not sure if he had a lip-reader or not. Someone had Dave Hall on; I think it might've been Dr. Drew. NG had a woman on, can't recall the first name, but last name was Hiatt. She's the sister of one of Travis' close friends. She talked about Jodi slashing Travis' tires. From what she said, it sounded like it wasn't just 2 incidents with all 4 tires slashed, but continuing slashings of a tire here and there, for a period of time. She said that Travis told her brother that Jodi did it.
"Well, it's YOUR fog..." - J. Martinez
The bigoted cops who beat Rodney King probably put a lot of real, actual bad guys behind bars during their careers too. Shame on those LA rioters for not admiring them for that back in '92.
Ma'am, what is hard to explain about a person breathing or not breathing? what is so difficult? why is that a difficult concept for you?
Do you have a link AnnieBelle?I thought I'd seen ALL the autopsy photos, but I found a few that I hadn't seen yet, on someone's photo bucket account. OMG. One of just his face, probably for identification purposes. The first time I've seen the gunshot wound to his head. His eyes are closed, and his throat wound is covered. How on EARTH could she do that to him? To another human being? It makes me more angry than ever, knowing she is trying to justify that??!!! Plead guilty to first degree MURDER, Jodi. Save your friggin' soul and save his family from any more pain.
I Feel More Like I Do Now Than When I Got Here
Same guyDworkin was the computer guy that showed the peen pics that were on JA's hard drive.
There was another guy that came in for about 5 minutes just prior to JA taking the stand that said he verified the voices, right?
No clue why the defense would want him back. I could almost see prosecution wanting him back just because I have always felt there was something off with that phone sex tape. Just doesn't sound "natural" to me. Some of it sounded forced in a way.I have always said that sex tape sounded odd, off, unnatural. I've wondered many times if it was not something she cobbled together from other surreptitious recordings. The phone with the recording on it going magically missing and the turning up just in the nick of time (or so it seems) is just too weird.
The jokes on the IM don't bother me, we don't know how long the IM session is and even if it was a short convo I've had serious convo's then changed the subject real quick to humor. Also I have heard it described by those who have been stalked that cutting off communication is like being in shark infested water and not knowing where the shark was, so some do keep a close eye on those they are afraid off. I'm also wondering you can be really afraid and at the same time try to ignore your fears. Idk just my thoughts.
Juan will need to have a great rebuttal and closing to wrap it with a bow though.
Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA
Two of my friends were viciously attacked by some L.A. rioters as we were all running for safety. I wouldn't credit the L.A. rioters for making ANY important statements.
Dworkin was the computer guy that showed the peen pics that were on JA's hard drive.
There was another guy that came in for about 5 minutes just prior to JA taking the stand that said he verified the voices, right?
No clue why the defense would want him back. I could almost see prosecution wanting him back just because I have always felt there was something off with that phone sex tape. Just doesn't sound "natural" to me. Some of it sounded forced in a way.
Computer forensic examiner Lonnie Dworkin (pictured below) testified that he recovered the photo of the underwear from Arias? camera found by investigators.
defense witness - and he wasn't very good the first time
I still believe that she WAS provided more than enough information to see that JA was NOT abused by Travis but out of greed for fame and fortune decided to twist the information to fit the murdering skanks story!!!!!!! she's made a very, very poor choice for herself in doing this!
This case is like crack. My hubby recently became addicted and was looking forward to the lip reader. Sadly, no lip reader.
Didn't the state start out acknowledging Travis wasn't all people thought he was or something like that? I think we will hear a small sentence again like that on closing.
I agree, from the first time I read his myspace 'who would I like to meet' and blog, I felt he he had 'issues' with women. (ref "whores" as dime a dozen) Hughes' also reflect they thought he had issues which pointed to disrespecting women not anger issues in the full sense of the meanings. Not a shocker for someone from his background. Or like many males that value the piece of ass then call it a whore for getting it.
But, I still hold firmly, we are all flawed and that doesn't flag us that we will be slaughtered, butchered down for those flaws. Had Travis not been murdered, he could have gone on to change, to work on those issues. I think there is evidence he had become aware he had them and was readying to face them.
IMs and fear I posted about already so I won't repeat it, but I completely 'get it'. And in this era of electronic communications, I also know it is possible to one minute joke and the next be serious, it's not a complicated point to make to any juror that isn't 'old fashioned' and knows text / IMs and how they can go. No more complicated than how we right here one minute joke and the next cry or are pissed or creeped out.
Bottom line to me is, verbal abuse, hurt feelings is not a crime. I don't beleive he was ever physically abusive. The anger and rage evidence shows me was in Jodi Arias, the killer.
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
Coooooooooool!!! Wish I wasn't two hours away... Good for u! And u too faq_q!
The link to the photos is here. They are the library of a user on photo bucket by the name of "forwinteriscoming" and they are listed for public viewing.
BE WARNED...VERY DISTURBING AND GRAPHIC PHOTOS
http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/fo...brary/?page=1:
Iyou for always finding the right pictures for my words.
I wonder if he will more 8x10 glossy penis pictures this time.
Computer forensic examiner Lonnie Dworkin (pictured below) testified that he recovered the photo of the underwear from Arias? camera found by investigators.
defense witness - and he wasn't very good the first time
two different dudesSame guy
http://youtu.be/FkXxbhwSOqk
But I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels that way about the recording. Kinda fits in with the newly surfacing may 2008 journal entries that sound like she's talking to someone besides herself trying to convince someone of something?
Hey you! It was such a pleasure getting to know you today! I think all the MDSers in AZ need to attend at once! PM me and let me know when you are thinking of going again!
I read something a month or so ago about JA's brother stating that she recorded it to scare off any girlfriend that Travis may have. I don't know if it's true but if so it would make sense that she would create it to sound the way she wanted it to sound............ we must remember that she is of a superior intelligence........... she's a regular Einstein!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Same guy
i am looking for you, but so far this is all i found, so far they aren't showing the gallery, did you get there when the session started when alyce's phone go off or earlier
Last edited by Harlette; 04-10-2013 at 07:07 PM.
OMG these are brutal...I couldn't get past the first page. More nightmare material. Can't unsee them, or the praying mantis Jodi pic either. Maybe I'll just stay up all night instead and try to think happy thoughts. Or watch YouTube videos of puppies and babies...jeesh!
I agree with you. Because of the fact that she did not concede, in the slightest bit, even given the information (even hypotheticals) by JM, today. Witnesses are supposed to testify to the truth, regardless of which side they are testifying for. I lost ALL respect for her opinion when she said that she disbelieved Travis Alexander when he wrote that he was very afraid of his stalker. I just looked at the autopsy photos of Travis.....and, you know what I think? He had a very good REASON to be afraid. It disgusts me to think that Jodi's ugly and distorted face was the last image that his man saw. I am sure that Alyce saw those photos, too. And for her to insist that JODI was the abused party? OMFG!
According to this person who posted on twitter, any/all of us could be Jodi. http://jessicaknight82.wordpress.com...vis-alexander/
She's sure got some issues.
Social media has condemned Jodi Arias, claiming she is evil, defective and such. I wonder, though, how much of that is actually correct? More likely, any one of us could be Jodi Arias. We?ve all been in unfavorable relationship situations. I myself have plotted the death of a few men in my day. I was sure at the time that they had it coming. However, my plan always stopped in the planning process. Guess that means I had higher impulse control. As for the whole mental problems issue, well, of course she has mental issues. That?s pretty obvious. However, who doesn?t have mental issues? I?m sure if any of us actually sat down with any kind of professional, we would all be diagnosed with something. So really every one is defective in some way. And any one of us could snap in a moment and off someone. It?s not a pretty picture.Yep, Jodi fans are definitely unbalanced. The funny thing is, they tell themselves that what they are doing -- be it stalking, or apparently in this girl's case, cutting brake lines -- that that is just something normal to think about and do, and everyone would do it.I?ve wished several men dead in my past, thinking of spontaneous things that would cause their death. Friends and I even disconnected what we thought were brake lines on one man?s car (turned out to be the battery, teenage girls, not always mechanical wizards, ya know.) PS that one was not my idea, I just didn?t stop it from going that far and, after how he turned out as an adult, the world might have been a better place if that plan had worked, but wrong still. Fact is, most of us don?t actually carry out the plans to kill the bastard. She did. That?s why we are all now brought together.
Just, wow.
"Well, it's YOUR fog..." - J. Martinez
Whoopsie! LOL They were so unimpressionable that I molded them into one person. Thanks for correcting me.That recording set off my hinky meter right away, first time I heard it.
Especially the part where she asks "What's a cream pie"
It sounds sooo fake!
Are people not allowed to become angry over something someone has done? Does that automatically label someone angry as being verbally abusive? If that's the case, everyone I know, including myself has at some point been verbally abusive. It's not a pattern; it's not a character flaw....it's a circumstance. We don't know what set him off. If we do, I missed it. When you look at the whole picture, a day of anger, or even rage as you state, does not make or break the case. And by the way, what is so scary about an IM? It couldn't have been that scary since she still took a trip there. Did he threaten her in those IM's? Since I have not read them (can't find them anywhere), I don't know that he did. It seems folks tend to focus on the testimony last heard. I don't think Miss Alyce is a make-or-break.
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