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    sorry multi post??

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    Quote Originally Posted by phantompoet View Post
    how can he say that Jodi isn't assertive, she killed someone isn't that being assertive
    She was very unassertive...except that time she butchered Travis...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnehundredCats View Post
    No way in hell that's her o_O
    Hair looks similar but fave does not....
    It is, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    Actually it is my understanding that because the DT is asserting self defense, they do need to prove that, which is why she took the stand. If she had stuck to the two ninja story, the burden would have remained with the prosecution, and she could have sat silently.
    I meant in the legal sense, they are not required by law to prove anything. The prosecutor needs to prove murder 1, beyond a reasonable doubt. It certainly is in the defense's interest to call witnesses to support their claims of self-defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    Actually it is my understanding that because the DT is asserting self defense, they do need to prove that, which is why she took the stand. If she had stuck to the two ninja story, the burden would have remained with the prosecution, and she could have sat silently.
    I though in AZ when it come to self defense the burden of proof rests on the DT.

    Quote Originally Posted by OnehundredCats View Post
    No way in hell that's her o_O
    Hair looks similar but fave does not....
    I meant "face" not "fave."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    Yeah! She graduated Law School in 1995 and by 2001 she's training Lawyers in Trial Practice in the Public Defenders Office? That is bullshit on stilts if ever I've ever seen it. I thought she was still with the Public Defender's Office, but see I was wrong on that.
    Oh, I was commenting on the fact that she apparently has instructed others how to behave in court, when I think she kinda fails at that herself.


    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    Actually it is my understanding that because the DT is asserting self defense, they do need to prove that, which is why she took the stand. If she had stuck to the two ninja story, the burden would have remained with the prosecution, and she could have sat silently.
    Yes, I believe that's right.


    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    it was already decided by a judge the defense/prosecution is not allowed to bring up this being a crime of rage compared to premeditation, thats why martinez just gave the facts and didn't call it premeditation, its the defense trying to sneak in the crime of passion from this guy, based on is assesment of the crime scene, thats why palin keeps getting shut down on side bar
    Yep. Defense keeps trying to sneak it in by having Doc blurt things out on the stand. As if we're all not onto that, much less Martinez and Judge Stephens.


    Dr. Drew is going to be addressing Jodi swiping the folder after return from break.


    "Well, it's YOUR fog..." - J. Martinez

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    Holy crap... did anyone see that clip on Dr. Drew where Jodi snatched the folder off the table and appeared to hide it? WTF?!

    Did I miss something today?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    I don't think it (sex tape) did any real harm, JA seemed like to narrator & instigator on that call. And it portrayed her in a way that she will never recoup from, she was going to lie & lie about Travis to portray him in such an evil light with or with out the sex tape. So I am sorta, kind of glad this was admitted into evidence, because we got to hear his deep soulful tired voice & the whole thing was G-rated in my eyes (aside from porking in the ass) BUT JA wanted to portray herself as this poor beaten down abused & used dirty little secret of Travis' & we (at least I) didn't see that, it just left a sour taste in my mouth of her when they played it early on in February & that was the day I believed wholeheartedly in her guilt & premeditation.
    I agree. It really made Travis out to be a nice guy. Putting up with Stabby the whole time...singing with her even though he was so tired, and always respectful towards her. Even when she called her sister dumb and stupid, he didn't jump on that wagon. He just said, "bless your heart, you love her."

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    Juan: "And you're not a Dr right? You don't have an MD after your name?

    Dicky: "That is correct! I am not a Dr!"
    Love ^^ This ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadameX View Post
    Holy crap... did anyone see that clip on Dr. Drew where Jodi snatched the folder off the table and appeared to hide it? WTF?!

    Did I miss something today?
    Yup, this was discussed a few pages back.
    This is the original video


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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Just frustrated with Martinez's micro-focus on meaningless details. He is fighting big battles over nothing points. Jodi killed Travis. Jodi lied. Jodi's own expert called her the "perpetrator of a horrible violent crime". Jodi said she did something horribly wrong. This is all stuff we already know.

    There is only remaning question to answer - can Martinez prove premeditation? Or will he confuse the jury with such a hot mess of overargumentative crapola about anal sex, lube, Starbucks, self-help books, The Secret, and Casa Ramos.

    WTF is this trial about? One damn thing. Did she premeditate the murder and can Martinez prove it to the jury???
    Well the defense isn't' really proving self defense either with all of their nonsense.. so that is why I am saying its hard to tell where this is going to go. Like I said I am worried about the one juror .. just the one and I have a feeling that there will be "the one".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    They Do !!!!
    I was able to send a little donation on Feb 18th to them & I received an email from Samantha, it read:

    Re: Donation for the Travis Alexander Family‏
    2/19/13
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    Samantha Alexander
    To [email protected]
    I wanted to personally thank you for your support during this trying time. This has been the hardest thing we have went through and it makes it so much harder because it is in a different state. Travis was the only member of our family that lived in Arizona so we are all traveling and taking time away from our lives and our jobs to be there. Words can not express how much we appreciate your support. I hope this trial will soon be over so we can have some sense of closure. I feel like my brother's death has taken so much from this world and it's not fair to any one of us. We hope the justice system will not fail us. Only time will tell.
    Thank you again for your support.
    Sincerely,
    Samantha Alexander and the Alexander Family

    On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Kimberly xxxxxxx via PayPal <[email protected]> wrote:

    Kimberly xxxxxxx sent you $30.00 USD
    Transaction ID: 89xxxxxxxxxxxxxx0H
    Dear Travis Alexander Memorial Fund,
    Just thought you'd like to know Kimberly xxxxxxx sent you $30.00 USD.
    Note from Kimberly xxxxxxx:
    Dear Alexander Family, My heart felt sympathy goes out to you. Thanks to the FaceBook page "The State vs Jodi Arias ~ Travis Alexander murder trial" whom has kindly posted this PayPal link. I hope this helps & I wish it could be more. God bless & keep strong Best Regards, Kimberly xxxxxxx & Fam


    Here is the link from--->
    The State vs Jodi Arias ~ Travis Alexander murder trial FaceBook Page
    We've had numerous requests from people wishing to assist Travis' family with travel and living expenses during the trial.
    Please make donations to the following PayPal email: [email protected]
    To send cards or cheques, please use this postal address:
    Tanisha Sorenson
    ALS
    700 E. Redlands Blvd. STE U 304
    Redlands, CA. 92373
    [We advise that the admins of this site do not manage this acct. It is handled exclusively by Travis' family.]

    FYI--- I've X'd out some stuff for obvious reasons :smile:
    Thank you for posting this information. I was thinking about how much work Samantha is missing from her police job, all these weeks turned into months...no end in sight...I think they deserve a little help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Just frustrated with Martinez's micro-focus on meaningless details. He is fighting big battles over nothing points. Jodi killed Travis. Jodi lied. Jodi's own expert called her the "perpetrator of a horrible violent crime". Jodi said she did something horribly wrong. This is all stuff we already know.

    There is only remaning question to answer - can Martinez prove premeditation? Or will he confuse the jury with such a hot mess of overargumentative crapola about anal sex, lube, Starbucks, self-help books, The Secret, and Casa Ramos.

    WTF is this trial about? One damn thing. Did she premeditate the murder and can Martinez prove it to the jury???
    And, how does JM go about doing that, except to focus on every detail that he can.....to leave no stone unturned, in his prosecution of this case? This is a huge case, with serious consequences, no matter how it plays out. He would not be doing his job if he skipped over the minute details. The extent of Jodi's actions and lying in the aftermath is what has caused this...not JM and his style.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadameX View Post
    Holy crap... did anyone see that clip on Dr. Drew where Jodi snatched the folder off the table and appeared to hide it? WTF?!

    Did I miss something today?
    If she's being sneaky and doing something she's not allowed to do (like get private notes out to friends, family or witnesses), I sure hope someone informs the court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    Juan: "And you're not a Dr right? You don't have an MD after your name?

    Dicky: "That is correct! I am not a Dr!"
    That's What I thought he said. For a minute there I thought I was having a Jodi moment. So what's up with that??? By the way, TY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estefaniia View Post
    Is this the woman who almost made out with Jodi? the hispanic lady? Looks like her...

    http://www.facebook.com/mariadelaro
    This def looks like her the mitigation specialist
    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Just frustrated with Martinez's micro-focus on meaningless details. He is fighting big battles over nothing points. Jodi killed Travis. Jodi lied. Jodi's own expert called her the "perpetrator of a horrible violent crime". Jodi said she did something horribly wrong. This is all stuff we already know.

    There is only remaning question to answer - can Martinez prove premeditation? Or will he confuse the jury with such a hot mess of overargumentative crapola about anal sex, lube, Starbucks, self-help books, The Secret, and Casa Ramos.

    WTF is this trial about? One damn thing. Did she premeditate the murder and can Martinez prove it to the jury???
    So true... sometimes JM lingers from the points (as its hard to get direct answers out of JA & Doc Dick)
    BUT I do think he'll drive it home when he finishes in closing
    Quote Originally Posted by OnehundredCats View Post
    No way in hell that's her o_O
    Hair looks similar but fave does not....
    OMG-- I do think its Willmott (she just doesn't look so stiff because she's not facing JM)
    Quote Originally Posted by scorpio rising View Post
    Thank you for posting this information. I was thinking about how much work Samantha is missing from her police job, all these weeks turned into months...no end in sight...I think they deserve a little help.
    YW... & they do deserve a lil help if one can help out, it made me feel terrific to give, even though it wasn't all that much

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadameX View Post
    Holy crap... did anyone see that clip on Dr. Drew where Jodi snatched the folder off the table and appeared to hide it? WTF?!

    Did I miss something today?
    Dammit I missed this :( What did Dr. Drew say about it??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    it was already decided by a judge the defense/prosecution is not allowed to bring up this being a crime of rage compared to premeditation, thats why martinez just gave the facts and didn't call it premeditation, its the defense trying to sneak in the crime of passion from this guy, based on is assesment of the crime scene, thats why palin keeps getting shut down on side bar
    Yes, I agree with you and it really pissed me off when she kept trying to sneak stuff in and have the quack of a Dr. "suggest" that Jodi may have "snapped" or try and give a diagnosis based around her lies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Is this the woman who almost made out with Jodi? the hispanic lady? Looks like her...

    http://www.facebook.com/mariadelaro

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    This def looks like her the mitigation specialist
    Willmott has her as a friend on FB, so that confirms it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    If she's being sneaky and doing something she's not allowed to do (like get private notes out to friends, family or witnesses), I sure hope someone informs the court.
    Agree - Just please do not contact JM's office. They are already overwhelmed with calls from all the nancy drew/HLN-er's of the world.

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    Dr. Drew has Travis' Eddie Snell videos on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Estefaniia View Post
    Yup, this was discussed a few pages back.
    This is the original video

    Tell me this isn't wrong--- I am hoping to read in the paper or see on HLN that she was caught doing whatever she was doing
    Last edited by Cocopop; 03-19-2013 at 05:32 PM. Reason: typo

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorizfree View Post
    That's What I thought he said. For a minute there I thought I was having a Jodi moment. So what's up with that??? By the way, TY
    He holds a PhD, so it's appropriate that he has the title "Dr." before his name. He was correct when he answered that he's not a doctor. The doctoral degree he holds does not mean he's allowed to practice medicine like those who hold a Medical Doctorate (M.D.)

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    Okay.....I looked up the AZ law, concerning self-defense. It says that the burden of proof is not solely on the DT, but that they must call witnesses to support their claim. The burden is on the DA to prove the case beyond a reasonable doubt, no matter what the defense claims (or should I say in spite of it.) Also, there are lesser verdicts that the jury will be instructed to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie View Post
    Yeah, you can see it on tv but no one in court can. These are the types of posts that are solid gold. Pure insanity.
    Don't worry. The warden will get wind of it.

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