Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[M Joy]

people on HLN keep saying there are 11 men and 1 woman on the jury.
No.... actually there are currently 11 men and 7 women right now. 6 jurors will be randomly eliminated prior to deliberations.

Sorry. Vent over.

[Ian 1]

Hi, Denn, Jodi actually bought a kerosene can initially. In the receipt, I believe it says KERO or something. Those are blue cans. Gas cans are red. There was a discussion about this many pages ago because I was curious if one could use a kerosene can for gas. It's possible Jodi didn't know the difference when she bought the can, or Walmart was out of gas cans and only had kerosene cans.

They're the same cans--just different colors. It's a matter of labelling. If you use either of them as designed and stick them in the back of the garage for a year or so, when you go back you will know that gas is in the red can and kerosene is in the blue. The only difference is color.

[AgathaAppleswine]

She STILL talks about TA in the PRESENT tense. I find that very very very creepy

Is there anything about that thing that isn't creepy?

[*crickets*]

people on HLN keep saying there are 11 men and 1 woman on the jury.
No.... actually there are currently 11 men and 7 women right now. 6 jurors will be randomly eliminated prior to deliberations.

Sorry. Vent over.

BOMBSHELL! HLN gets its facts wrong!

[AnnieBelle]

I need some help please?

I am responding to one post, and somehow these are starting to accumulate at the end of the thread.

I do not see how to directly respond to a blue box. Course, I do not pay to use this site. Maybe that is the problem for me. No wonder someone thinks I am a serial poster. I don't mean to be...

Thank you for any and all help on how to respond. I see no box to uncheck at the upper right corner.

I found the FAQ, located up in the left area of the task bar, to be of great help. It really answers all the in's and out's of navigating this site.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Is there anything about that thing that isn't creepy?

Well now that you mention it...

BOMBSHELL! HLN gets its facts wrong!

No?! HLN?! Say it ain't so Joe?!

[Vanilla Ice]

Did you call them about the video showing Jodi's gaffe when answering the jurors questions about stuff she said in her journal from Aug. 2007?? Or was it about a different video?? Thanks!

No; I called re the Dr. Drew vid release. I tried to call today re this gaffe, but they had closed the phones a bit early (don't blame em.) My son & I are both chronically ill, so I can't keep up on all of it all the time, thus my encouragement to others to call in. Also the reason I don't post much here, but I'm glad y'all are here with your brilliant comments/sleuthing! I've had some great laughs here, on what is otherwise a hard case to digest.

Reply to Dee Stress: Yes; I know they can't really discuss what they have already, but she wanted to write down the names of the friends who have the video. Have a nice evening all

[NCBlonde]

and if she doesn't get the DP will you feel like your team lost? Of course she should pay for her crime but I'm not the judge nor the jury ,I wouldn't want those shoes...Alot of people have alot of different ideas of what "justice" should be in this case.

I'm on a team? Do we have personalized jerseys? Do we get together and have weekend cookouts?

Wanting a coldblooded killer to pay for her crime makes me "on a team"?

No seriously, I didn't realize that people who hold a similar opinion -- in this case the one that a brutal murderer should pay for her crime -- means we are all on some team. I have a lot of opinions on a lot of things, guess I'm on a lot of "teams" then?

Sounds like a lot of deflection on your part. You can try and make this about the family, friends, or even internet posters as much as you want. It doesn't change the fact that this is about Jodi and no one else but Jodi.

Jodi did the crime, Jodi will do the crime, whether Jodi fans like it or not. If a cold-blooded killer is not paid to pay for their actions -- be it LWOP or DP -- we all lose. The justice system works to mete out punishments that are fitting of the crime committed. If we don't hold people to those punishments, then yes, it's a loss to society.

This woman is guilty, of first degree murder, by LAW, not by personal opinion, she deserves the punishment that comes along with it.

Go on and try to play deflection games, but it won't work.

[wasthinking]

from what i am reading - i think its nurmi asking martinez for the walmart and tesero business records - it looks like they may have overlooked that in previous discovery -

I'm not legal in any field, but I am an experienced guesser .

JM blasts her in court with Walmart.
Immediate side bar of which the result is telling IMO
Juan is allowed to continue! This tells me that he basically assured the court he has the goods to back up his blast and that is why the court allowed him to go on.
Friday JM files a motion to supplement his LOW!
Nurmi comes in today with compel shit following Martinez's Friday filing.

conincidence? May be unrelated but, again, with the underhanded way Nurmi operates, I'll wait and see what plays out.
My guess is .... Nurmi is deceitful. He files shit for the record with the court at every turn. i.e. Like when he was asking 'on the record' the other day trying to make it look like JM wasn't cooperating. This isn't a first Nurmi's pulled this cry wolf deceitful act. JM for the umpteenth time has to stand and tell the court, your honor, he just asked me for the and I said I'd bring them and provide them by tomorrow so I don't know why he feels compelled to repeat this just to make a record'. [paraphrased from my 'Nurmi is an asshole' memory]

Nurmi plays these unprofessional games often so it is hard to tell if this is just another one of those tricks. Im leaning its probably more towards a another Nurmi cry wolf act.
I can't see experience prosecutor Juan Martinez backing himself into a bad corner without a way out. Evidence can always be on going because the court nor the lawyers know what a witness will bring up so what some ask 'late' isn't late. They can't enter evidence before they even know what a witness will pull our of their ass.

[bryanwasdrunk]

I wonder why they would want the jury to consider something like this? Especially since we know Jodi is lying. I mean, I know she's telling bits and pieces of the truth mixed into her lies, but overall she's telling lies. It seems a polygraph would pick up on that, just as we're picking it up while she's testifying. The only way the defense would want something like this in evidence for the jury to consider, especially at the time of sentencing, is if she passed somehow...(could she be sociopathic enough to actually believe her own lies enough to pass one of these things???)

If she passed three different polygraphs with three different stories, damned skippy I want that to be a consideration during sentencing!

[Rachael123]

((((Hugs)))))For both you and your son.

No; I called re the Dr. Drew vid release. I tried to call today re this gaffe, but they had closed the phones a bit early (don't blame em.) My son & I are both chronically ill, so I can't keep up on all of it all the time, thus my encouragement to others to call in. Also the reason I don't post much here, but I'm glad y'all are here with your brilliant comments/sleuthing! I've had some great laughs here, on what is otherwise a hard case to digest.

Reply to Dee Stress: Yes; I know they can't really discuss what they have already, but she wanted to write down the names of the friends who have the video. Have a nice evening all

[NCBlonde]

So, is it a gas can she said she returned or a kerosene can?? When did she buy the kerosene can. I am not asking WHY..cause we know.

There really is no difference between a gas can and a kerosene can. At least not the one Jodi bought. The only difference is color. Gas cans are red, kerosene are generally blue. That is to prevent someone from using the wrong fluid. Obviously you would not want to put kerosene in your car or gasoline in your space heater. Aside from that, you can put either fluid in either can. Jodi was using the kero can for gas, so it didn't matter the color, she was not then going to use it for home heating.

[helloagain]

I'm on a team? Do we have personalized jerseys? Do we get together and have weekend cookouts?

Wanting a coldblooded killer to pay for her crime makes me "on a team"?

No seriously, I didn't realize that people who hold a similar opinion -- in this case the one that a brutal murderer should pay for her crime -- means we are all on some team. I have a lot of opinions on a lot of things, guess I'm on a lot of "teams" then?

Sounds like a lot of deflection on your part. You can try and make this about the family, friends, or even internet posters as much as you want. It doesn't change the fact that this is about Jodi and no one else but Jodi.

Jodi did the crime, Jodi will do the crime, whether Jodi fans like it or not. If a cold-blooded killer is not paid to pay for their actions -- be it LWOP or DP -- we all lose. The justice system works to mete out punishments that are fitting of the crime committed. If we don't hold people to those punishments, then yes, it's a loss to society.

This woman is guilty, of first degree murder, by LAW, not by personal opinion, she deserves the punishment that comes along with it.

Go on and try to play deflection games, but it won't work.

Not jerseys, but tshirts. Here's Jodi modeling one:

[AnnieBelle]

I am very curious now of the taped sex call. Someone is coming out saying it was a deliberate call Arais ( I really have a very difficult time calling her Jody) made as the initiation in her plot to murder Travis. I have missed some of the details on why this is now being brought out.

OH! And an attorney did say tonight, the way Martinez is calling her out on all her lies - well, it landed one of the woman on death row with the same technique. Course, we know it is a different jury. I feel the jury really wants to believe her. Possibly because she does not look like a killer.

By listening to the 200+ questions that the jury had for Jodi, I am NOT getting the sense that the jury is wanting to believe her. I believe that they probably went into this task, believing her innocent until proven guilty. But the evidence the DA has presented and, certainly, the weeks that they have spent listening to Jodi and observing her....I believe they have a lot of doubt planted in their minds about how much she can be believed.

[wasthinking]

She STILL talks about TA in the PRESENT tense. I find that very very very creepy

One word, Malingering.
Part of her incorrect assumption that it goes with her scrambled brain defense. I forgot, can't remember, blackout, -- fakes ... can't accept he's dead.
She's going to have several problems with this bad acting under the caption her DT wants of PTSD!

[Ian 1]

can you put 5.09 gallons in a 5 gallon can?

Yes. I do it all the time when buying gas for my boat. .09 is 9/100 ths. of a gallon. Not very much.

[NCBlonde]

Not jerseys, but tshirts. Here's Jodi modeling one:

Touche!

[wasthinking]

Not jerseys, but tshirts. Here's Jodi modeling one:

That's her homemade fake one, here's her real one

[NCBlonde]

Yes. I do it all the time when buying gas for my boat. .09 is 9/100 ths. of a gallon. Not very much.

Yep, and a 5-gallon (or 2 gallon etc) is going to hold slightly more than 5 gallons, by nature of the fact that gas expands with higher temperatures. 5 gallons of gas would not then fill a gas completely to the top, that have to allow room for expansion. So, that tiny little 9/100ths of a gallon extra is very much possible to have put into that can.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Not jerseys, but tshirts. Here's Jodi modeling one:

I wanna be on the team doesn't have to wear ugly tshirts!

One word, Malingering.
Part of her incorrect assumption that it goes with her scrambled brain defense. I forgot, can't remember, blackout, -- fakes ... can't accept he's dead.
She's going to have several problems with this bad acting under the caption her DT wants of PTSD!

I don't think she's malingering when she talks of him the present tense, I think it's because in her mind he's hers now forever. I don't think she even knows it doing it. I do however, find it it disturbing and very creepy.

[Cocopop]

Patiently awaiting for tomorrow afternoon, it cannot come quick enough.
Many great points brought up on MDS over the past couple of days, so TY for keeping me updated.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Not jerseys, but tshirts. Here's Jodi modeling one:

Anyone have any idea when that picture was taken? In the pic her appears that weirdish orangish color in the back and blonder in the front.

[Jillee]

I am thinking that Martinez started to do some math, after one of the jurors asked specifically about the volume of gas...it was a very mathematical question. Maybe that got him to start re-thinking the gas and the cans. Just a thought.

Martinez isn't re-thinking anything. He knows exactly what he's doing. He's been sitting on this case for years. Everything he does is for a reason. A well thought out reason. The gas cans is something he's been waiting to pounce on when the moment was right. He's known for bringing in surprise witnesses (all well under the court of law). He's thoroughly prepared for everything. No re-thinking going on in his head.

lol..well, I am on a MAC because my computer is in the shop. GOOD IDEA! I will try it. PLEASE NOTE: I am not a serial anything and above all else, not a serial poster.

Denn, you've posted 9 posts on this page 1734 alone. The best way to post is to think out all of your questions and post them at once. That way you won't look like a serial poster. Just some advice. I'm obviously just "member" status, and you're "senior" status, but you've moved up to senior in record time because you post a lot. It's ok to post stuff, just think out your questions first. Not trying to be mean or anything. Just trying to give you some lowly "member" advise.

PS. I joined on 3-1-13. I have 93 posts. (I too am using a Mac) Denn joined on 3-4-13 and has 239 posts..... j/s

[wasthinking]

My aha moment was early on in the trial before she took the stand, when JM put up the autopsy pictures and while she was pretending to cry she kept stealing glances at the screen to see her handiwork. Couple that with asking to see the body photos in her first interrogation....she's remorseless and dangerous.

[AnnieBelle]

lol..well, I am on a MAC because my computer is in the shop. GOOD IDEA! I will try it. PLEASE NOTE: I am not a serial anything and above all else, not a serial poster.

Where would anyone get such an idea??!! Psssshhhhh.