Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[Justice11]

Of geez, I'm on my phone. It didn't quote and I can't edit. :/ I'll fix it when I get home.

[tiggrrl72077]

Pathological liars lie about all kinds of things for the simple reason that they can. If Stabby testified under oath that the sky was blue I would go outside to look!

My brother in law is like this. If you are standing next to the full trash can and ask him if he took the trash out. He will tell you that he did.

[Missmandy9]

yep, I think you're right, I guess this is so late in the game because of how the trial has unfolded... kind of seems like this evidence should have been ready to go before this though.

Not necessarily because JA didn't testify to returning the 3rd gas can until recently, right? So the prosecution probably didn't think they needed to prove it wasn't returned.

[Harlette]

It was his brother, Dennis Alexander



Thats what i thought at first actually. But I couldn't imagine JM trying to hide those documents from the defense, so I wasn't sure.

well they cold have put it on the discovey list and they just didn't pick up on it?? - cuz martinez only has to supply list and not tell them whats imprtant and her evidence list is miles long

but it either gotta be nurmi asking for from martinez or its martinez asking who ever keeps all the evidence while the trial is going on (idk if they have this just guessing)

because their is no way they would be asking the business for records today - the records are from 2008 - it could take months for a business to come up w/ those records right now, if they still exist

travis fb needs to do better - they are suppose to be on travis' side, but they jump on crap like this w/ out checking - like w/ the arrest record

[loonywop]

Wow. Did I really read this? Some posters believe Travis' family is bloodthirsty because they have the nerve to want Jodi punished for brutally slashing their loved one to death?

No, what they want is justice. They want Jodi to pay for the heinous crime she committed. And no one has the right to judge them for wanting Jodi held responsible for her deeds.

Jodi was the bloodthirsty one. Jodi was the cold-blooded killer; not Travis, not his sisters, his grandma or his friends.

And, punishing Jodi won't bring Travis back? Well, obviously, nothing can bring the deceased back, so we should totally change the law so that murder is no longer a crime. No point in punishing murderers, because doing so won't resurrect the victim. Yeah sure, makes perfect sense.

Silly me, I thought we sent murderers to jail and to their deaths because it was punishment for committing the ultimate crime of taking another person's life, in cold blood.

It is truly disturbing to see anyone criticize the family of the victim -- that would be Travis -- for wanting Jodi to be punished for her actions.

Jodi is behind bars and facing a possible death sentence, because of Jodi, and no one else. No one made her brutally murder another human being. She chose to do so. She thought she would get away with it; probably still does; and she thinks she should not have to face the consequences of her actions.

If Jodi ends up with the death penalty, it's because she earned it. Don't want a lethal injection? Don't brutally slash someone to death.

and if she doesn't get the DP will you feel like your team lost? Of course she should pay for her crime but I'm not the judge nor the jury ,I wouldn't want those shoes...Alot of people have alot of different ideas of what "justice" should be in this case.

[Ian 1]

It appears that the questions from the jurors and the contradicting answers that JA keeps giving is thread by thread weaving one hellava rope that she is gonna hang from.

You mean the rope she can't dispose of in the dumpster this time.??

(I'd better quit before I get nailed for not multi-posting.)

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

well they cold have put it on the discovey list and they just didn't pick up on it?? - cuz martinez only has to supply list and not tell them whats imprtant and her evidence list is miles long

but it either gotta be nurmi asking for from martinez or its martinez asking who ever keeps all the evidence while the trial is going on (idk if they have this just guessing)

because their is no way they would be asking the business for records today - the records are from 2008 - it could take months for a business to come up w/ those records right now, if they still exist

travis fb needs to do better - they are suppose to be on travis' side, but they jump on crap like this w/ out checking - like w/ the arrest record

Flores or Martinez probably inquired verbally with each company. Martinez probably waited until she committed fully to the lie again on recross (same thing happened with Cindy Anthony and her work records in CA trial).

They need to formally request the records to get them into court along with an employee of each company to testify to the accuracy of the records.

[dizzyp]

Kind of hard though to predict what Stabby was going to testify to. Prosecution didn't get a preview of her testimony, Once she testified and then committed to the lie over and over - GAME ON!

re-post FYI The Tesoro station JA was at that morning was:

Tesoro 2Go 62097
1699 W North Temple
Salt Lake Cty, UT 84116

you won't see it on Google St view... all Tesoro stations in Utah are now Shell stations.

[Dee Stress]

Please please please watch this video! This girl is only 6 and wanted to kill her brother and parents. Something happened to Jodi in the first years of her life, and remember her babysitter saying on TV how Jodi used to physically torment her little brother? Watch this... Grab a tissue first!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2-Re_Fl_L4&NR=1

I remember this video! First saw snippets of it in a documentary about the brutal murder of a toddler by two 10 year olds, that rocked the UK in 1993. In a follow up panel discussion on the two boys, (the case had a huge impact here) there was much heated debate on the born evil, genetic malfunction etc., issues and this video was played in it's entirety. Good find! I don't suppose we'll ever find out what went on in Jodi's younger life, but I'm pretty sure if she was sexually abused, it would have been a big part of her defence in relation to her claims of Travis being a peadophile.

I don't think it's going to start again until Wed., but check this afternoon, just in case.
JM will still be cross- examining Jodi when we get back. When he's done, there are more jury questions and I think both sides will get to question her again.

The Justice for Travis Alexander has good recaps - minus any sarcasm. They also have videos of the court sessions.
https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Tra...xander?fref=ts

David Lohr also has videos of the sessions, minus the sidebar
http://www.youtube.com/user/crimewriter74?feature=watch

Minus the sarcasm, love that! Thanks for links.

Remorse hasn't been denied. Judge deferred it.
A lot of motions are just your avg def atty motions. Shows Nurmi was at least doing SOP.

IT IS FURTHER ORDERED affirming the court?s ruling dated August 27, 2012
deferring a ruling on the Defendant?s Motion to Preclude the State from Arguing Lack of
Remorse During any Potential Sentencing Phase.

So many strange motions (to me) filed and denied. Can't quite get my head round a filing for remorse. Google is indeed MY friend at least.

yw, just happened to be one I had my eye on. We'll see it at a more appropriate time usually, after a verdict, before sentencing with some others.

For queen - its up to the judge to say enough but in a DP case, I seriously doubt you will see a judge deny a juror the right to ask a question. HUGE appeal issue they wouldn't want.
The concern is that they are asking a prolific liar any questions! AND, that a lot of questions we see them asking, have been answered in testimony! Someone isn't paying attn, dumb as a stump or we got some of both. IMO.

Are the jurors' aware she gets the chance to read them over with her team, do you know? I actually think they're quite aware she is a prolific liar, due to the very nature of their questions, although a couple of them have had me thinking WTF?

Is the hearing, tomorrow, going to be broadcast? The jury comes back on Wednesday, I believe? I could be wrong.

Annie, have you got your days mixed up, and thinking it's Monday today, lol? Or am I completely picking it up all wrong?

To save me trawling back through the bitch-fest again, could some real Nice person fill me in re Arizona and DST? You know, explain it to me like I'm 5, as i think I'm totally confusing myself here. We are +7 hours ahead of Arizona, if they do not recognise DST, i'll still be watching at the same time, right? We don't change till end of March, so please tell me I'm not as dumb as I sound? Or .... that I am?

[Harlette]

Thats what i thought at first actually. But I couldn't imagine JM trying to hide those documents from the defense, so I wasn't sure.

yes i just looked again at the travis fb - they are basing everything in that one court record, they have no access to the minutes or actually anyting that happened, they are just guessing - but just because martinez name is listed first doesn't mean he was the one asking for the record, i think on that print out the state is always listed first and the "TO COMPELL: business records from wal mart and tesero" doesn't mean they are asking the business, it could also mean what records they are referring to

and i bet nurmi would say he didn't see it even if he had and i don't think martinez would ever claim he had evidence that he didn't, because it could cause a mistrial, a chance for jodi to go free and martinez could be sanctioned

[Ian 1]

Thanks
Here's all the court stuff
Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
3/12/2013 005 - ME: Hearing - Party (001) 3/12/2013
3/12/2013 MOT - Motion - Party (001) 3/12/2013
NOTE: TO COMPEL; BUSINESS RECORDS FROM WAL-MART AND TESORO
3/11/2013 012 - ME: Trial - Party (001) 3/11/2013

http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.go...=CR2008-031021

Is not Jodi Arias Party (001)? I don't understand the format, but if the Filing Party is indeed Party (001), could this be a Defense Motion?

Help.

[Harlette]

Flores or Martinez probably inquired verbally with each company. Martinez probably waited until she committed fully to the lie again on recross (same thing happened with Cindy Anthony and her work records in CA trial).

They need to formally request the records to get them into court along with an employee of each company to testify to the accuracy of the records.

i don't think so, cuz if he says he has the record, he has to show it if asked and it would had to have been in discovery for defense to investigate - it would be hear say if they just told flores over the phone and wouldn't be allowed in, or if nurmi could prove the never recieved this evidence, it would have been thrown out

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

i don't think so, cuz if he says he has the record, he has to show it if asked and it would had to have been in discovery for defense to investigate - it would be hear say if they just told flores over the phone and wouldn't be allowed in, or if nurmi could prove the never recieved this evidence, it would have been thrown out

Martinez didn't say he actually had the records on Thursday. What he said to Stabby was "Would it surprise you that Wal-Mart has no record of any gas being returned that day"

Stabby was VERY surprised, according to her :eyeroll:

[Harlette]

Is not Jodi Arias Party (001)? I don't understand the format, but if the Filing Party is indeed Party (001), could this be a Defense Motion?

Help.

i just looked at the whole case list and every party in every single motion, appeal, evidence hearing is 001

[ChelseyDawn]

seems like this should have been done long ago, no?

Jodi hadn't lied about it until she took the stand. They had proof of her buying the can but didn't know she would claim she returned it. Until she claimed that, they would have no viable reason for requesting those documents. Since she didn't claim that till last week, and it probably took some time to contact the locations to find out if they had a record of return/purchase (walmart/tesoro) in order to know to subpoena them.

[lorizfree]

I remember this video! First saw snippets of it in a documentary about the brutal murder of a toddler by two 10 year olds, that rocked the UK in 1993. In a follow up panel discussion on the two boys, (the case had a huge impact here) there was much heated debate on the born evil, genetic malfunction etc., issues and this video was played in it's entirety. Good find! I don't suppose we'll ever find out what went on in Jodi's younger life, but I'm pretty sure if she was sexually abused, it would have been a big part of her defence in relation to her claims of Travis being a peadophile.

Minus the sarcasm, love that! Thanks for links.

So many strange motions (to me) filed and denied. Can't quite get my head round a filing for remorse. Google is indeed MY friend at least.

Are the jurors' aware she gets the chance to read them over with her team, do you know? I actually think they're quite aware she is a prolific liar, due to the very nature of their questions, although a couple of them have had me thinking WTF?

Annie, have you got your days mixed up, and thinking it's Monday today, lol? Or am I completely picking it up all wrong?

To save me trawling back through the bitch-fest again, could some real Nice person fill me in re Arizona and DST? You know, explain it to me like I'm 5, as i think I'm totally confusing myself here. We are +7 hours ahead of Arizona, if they do not recognise DST, i'll still be watching at the same time, right? We don't change till end of March, so please tell me I'm not as dumb as I sound? Or .... that I am?

Right now it's 3:16 pm in Arizona.

[Ian 1]

yep, I think you're right, I guess this is so late in the game because of how the trial has unfolded... kind of seems like this evidence should have been ready to go before this though.

How does this sound? Maybe it was just very clever strategy on the part of the Police and Martinez. Let's say the police investigators got the information from WalMart and Tesoro, but planned to not request copies of the records until after Martinez dropped his bombshell in Court. Is investigative knowledge something that has to be shared in discovery? Or is it just the documented proof? Martinez had those bank statements with the Debit charge of $19.64 but he did not directly connect that transaction to the purchase of gasoline. All he did was some on-the-spot arithmetic showing that $19.64 divided by $3.859 per gal. = 5.09 gallons of gas. Now he's going to prove it with the vendor's copy of the transaction receipt. Maybe he just wanted to lay the trap for Jodi, which he did, and come up with the receipts from Tesoro and WalMart after she had an opportunity to screw herself up from the stand.

My game changing moment was that point in the trial. I posted about it earlier, so I won't repeat myself.

[Ian 1]

To save me trawling back through the bitch-fest again, could some real Nice person fill me in re Arizona and DST? You know, explain it to me like I'm 5, as i think I'm totally confusing myself here. We are +7 hours ahead of Arizona, if they do not recognise DST, i'll still be watching at the same time, right? We don't change till end of March, so please tell me I'm not as dumb as I sound? Or .... that I am?

Here's the rule for switching to Daylight Saving Time. Spring Forward, Fall Back. If where you are observes DST, then you jumped ahead one hour last Sunday, Mar. 10, at 2 a.m. If Arizona does not observe DST, they stayed where they were. That means that you will have to wait one more hour to stream the live Trial. Just Google and ask 'What time is it in Phoenix Arizona?" You'll get your answer there. Rumor is that from now on Trial is going to start at 10:00 a.m. Phoenix, (MST) time.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

How does this sound? Maybe it was just very clever strategy on the part of the Police and Martinez. Let's say the police investigators got the information from WalMart and Tesoro, but planned to not request copies of the records until after Martinez dropped his bombshell in Court. Is investigative knowledge something that has to be shared in discovery? Or is it just the documented proof? Martinez had those bank statements with the Debit charge of $19.64 but he did not directly connect that transaction to the purchase of gasoline. All he did was some on-the-spot arithmetic showing that $19.64 divided by $3.859 per gal. = 5.09 gallons of gas. Now he's going to prove it with the vendor's copy of the transaction receipt. Maybe he just wanted to lay the trap for Jodi, which he did, and come up with the receipts from Tesoro and WalMart after she had an opportunity to screw herself up from the stand.

My game changing moment was that point in the trial. I posted about it earlier, so I won't repeat myself.

I bet that's certainly part of it! If Martinez had the records previously they would have to have been disclosed to defense in discovery.

I think his investigative work would be considered work product but I'm not a lawyer so not totally sure.

[dizzyp]

How does this sound? Maybe it was just very clever strategy on the part of the Police and Martinez. Let's say the police investigators got the information from WalMart and Tesoro, but planned to not request copies of the records until after Martinez dropped his bombshell in Court. Is investigative knowledge something that has to be shared in discovery? Or is it just the documented proof? Martinez had those bank statements with the Debit charge of $19.64 but he did not directly connect that transaction to the purchase of gasoline. All he did was some on-the-spot arithmetic showing that $19.64 divided by $3.859 per gal. = 5.09 gallons of gas. Now he's going to prove it with the vendor's copy of the transaction receipt. Maybe he just wanted to lay the trap for Jodi, which he did, and come up with the receipts from Tesoro and WalMart after she had an opportunity to screw herself up from the stand.

My game changing moment was that point in the trial. I posted about it earlier, so I won't repeat myself.

plausible scenario... still a possibility though that today's motion was generated by the defense trying to preempt the prosecution.

[*crickets*]

Agreed. And the Jury has seen that picture and others that we haven't seen from the day the ME testified. I just re-watched that testimony the other day and of course Jodi hides behind her hair curtain the whole time so she doesn't have to face what she did. Either that or she doesn't want the jury to see that she wants to look. I'm not sure.
That day several members of Travis' family had to get up and leave. it was too much

Not only did the jury see the autopsy/crime scene photos, they saw them on multiple big screens throughout the courtroom--I read somewhere that the screens were everywhere you looked, there was no escape. Imagine what that must have been like.

IMO, no one with a shred of common sense could see that and believe for one second this was self-defense. It was pure rage and nothing else.

[Ian 1]

Martinez didn't say he actually had the records on Thursday. What he said to Stabby was "Would it surprise you that Wal-Mart has no record of any gas being returned that day"

Stabby was VERY surprised, according to her :eyeroll:

Is doing it this way averting a Discovery violation? Do the Discovery rules treat information the same as tangible evidence, i.e. exhibits, witness statements, etc.?

[OnehundredCats]

Here's the rule for switching to Daylight Saving Time. Spring Forward, Fall Back. If where you are observes DST, then you jumped ahead one hour last Sunday, Mar. 10, at 2 a.m. If Arizona does not observe DST, they stayed where they were. That means that you will have to wait one more hour to stream the live Trial. Just Google and ask 'What time is it in Phoenix Arizona?" You'll get your answer there. Rumor is that from now on Trial is going to start at 10:00 a.m. Phoenix, (MST) time.

I think I've posted this like 3 times but here we go again

PSA

Court will be dark Monday and Tuesday, resuming on Wednesday, March 13.

Daylight Saving Time (United States) begins at 2:00 AM on Sunday, March 10. Arizona does not observe daylight savings.

So next week, for the east coast, court will begin now at 1:30pm. Adjust your schedule for your time zone!

Update: Judge wants to start at 10am which now changes east coast to 1pm!

Via http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com/category/crime/

[OnehundredCats]

Is not Jodi Arias Party (001)? I don't understand the format, but if the Filing Party is indeed Party (001), could this be a Defense Motion?

Help.

I'm not expert but every motion in the maricopa records show a (001) at the end for party. And according to that website (001) represents the plaintiff (Arizona). The shit is so hard to read. We need a court docs for dummies

[Justice11]

Entry #8

February 14, 2013

Dear Diary,

Happy Valentine's Day! I was hoping to get a private visit with a special visitor today, but dumb Sheriff Joe wouldn't allow it. Doesn't he know who I am? He should feel thankful that someone as famous as I am is in his crappy jail. I told the guards to let him know that I would grant him a private interview anytime he wanted. Still waiting to hear back from him.

I think my frustrations are really starting to mount. A way I've been coping is by making a hit list. Obviously, on the very top of this list is Fartinez! He annoys me so much. I've been trying to arrange an, um, "accident" for him, but it just hasn't panned out yet. Never send an amateur to do a professional's job.

My first attempt on his life involved poisoned Starbucks coffee. But, he only drinks coffee from Dunkin Donuts. Flores picks it up for him everyday. Go figure. Unfortunately for me, I only have contacts at Starbucks. :(

My next brilliant idea involved a fire. I happen to know a few arson exerts *cough-Donovan-cough*. According to my exerts, Walmart doesn't carry gasoline cans anymore. Riiiight. I told her to borrow some from Daryl, but she is convinced that would backfire.

I have a final plan that is practically foolproof. I heard about this person who put poison in her vajayjay in an attempt to poison someone during oral sex. Talk about a brilliant plan! I wish I would've thought of this a few years ago. The only hangup so far is that my outside contact is having, um, trouble seducing Fartinez. I told her to put on a dress and some lipstick, maybe throw in a thong and a pair of stilettos, but Dona....I mean my "contact" has still not been able to get Fartinez in a vulnerable position yet.

So, looks like it's back to the drawing board for me. Luckily I am a very creative sort of person! If all else fails, I'll just go with the traditional boring ways to murder someone. I really hope it doesn't come to that. I am an artist, after all.

Till next time,
Jodi

P.S.
Call me paranoid, but I've got a really bad feeling my diary may have been tampered with. I think this entry in particular could be construed the wrong way. I think I better be safe and rip these pages out. Let me just say this: if I EVER find out my jail diaries are leaked out, I will have one more person to add to my hit list!!!