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    The State has filed a motion to subpoena keeper records from Walmart and Tesoro.

    Court Minute Docket to follow.

    This was just posted on the People v. Jodi Arias website!

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    I also have wondered about JA's interview when she said that Travis said something to the effect of "I can't feel my legs", which would probably be due to some injury to the spinal cord from being stabbed in the back. I kinda think that was actually said to her in the midst of this attack when he was pleading for her to stop. Think for a moment he had his hands up to shield himself from further injury and was at that time saying, "Jodi! Please Stop! I CAN'T FEEL MY LEGS!" I takes one cold, hard person to keep going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilangiepangie View Post
    The State has filed a motion to subpoena keeper records from Walmart and Tesoro.

    Court Minute Docket to follow.

    This was just posted on the People v. Jodi Arias website!
    Thanks
    Here's all the court stuff
    Filing Date Description Docket Date Filing Party
    3/12/2013 005 - ME: Hearing - Party (001) 3/12/2013
    3/12/2013 MOT - Motion - Party (001) 3/12/2013
    NOTE: TO COMPEL; BUSINESS RECORDS FROM WAL-MART AND TESORO
    3/11/2013 012 - ME: Trial - Party (001) 3/11/2013

    http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.go...=CR2008-031021

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Pathological liars lie about all kinds of things for the simple reason that they can. If Stabby testified under oath that the sky was blue I would go outside to look!
    She lies like she breathes...no reason for alot of them, she can't seem to help herself. I would love to know what an (unbiased) psychiatrist/psychologist thinks abt. what her pathology is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilangiepangie View Post
    The State has filed a motion to subpoena keeper records from Walmart and Tesoro.

    Court Minute Docket to follow.

    This was just posted on the People v. Jodi Arias website!
    seems like this should have been done long ago, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    seems like this should have been done long ago, no?
    view the motion here: https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphot...22479214_n.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    seems like this should have been done long ago, no?
    3/12/2013 MOT - Motion 3/12/2013
    NOTE: TO COMPEL; BUSINESS RECORDS FROM WAL-MART AND TESORO

    to me this looks like this is part of discovery possibly. Does "to compel" mean subpoena?

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_to_compel
    A motion to compel asks the court to order either the opposing party or a third party to take some action. This sort of motion most commonly deals with discovery disputes, when a party who has propounded discovery to either the opposing party or a third party believes that the discovery responses are insufficient. The motion to compel is used to ask the court to order the non-complying party to produce the documentation or information requested, and/or to sanction the non-complying party for their failure to comply with the discovery requests.
    Last edited by M Joy; 03-12-2013 at 12:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    seems like this should have been done long ago, no?
    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    Could be either Flores or JM had verbal verification of information and now they just need a subpoena to compel the actual records. No way JM says in open court that Wal-Mart has no record of return of gas can as Stabby claims unless he could back it up. Same with Tesoro math he did from her bank statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Could be either Flores or JM had verbal verification of information and now they just need a subpoena to compel the actual records. No way JM says in open court that Wal-Mart has no record of return of gas can as Stabby claims unless he could back it up. Same with Tesoro math he did from her bank statement.
    seems like the companies are not complying voluntarily with the request and want a court order.... understandable I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    yw, just happened to be one I had my eye on. We'll see it at a more appropriate time usually, after a verdict, before sentencing with some others.

    For queen - its up to the judge to say enough but in a DP case, I seriously doubt you will see a judge deny a juror the right to ask a question. HUGE appeal issue they wouldn't want.
    The concern is that they are asking a prolific liar any questions! AND, that a lot of questions we see them asking, have been answered in testimony! Someone isn't paying attn, dumb as a stump or we got some of both. IMO.
    You are perceptive as hell. One Juror asked a question that obviously demonstrated that he/her thought "The Law of Attraction" and "The Secret" were part of Mormon Church Doctrine. Earlier on, somebody said "dumb as a bag of hammers." That's a pretty good comparison. We can only hope that they don't think their job is to play detective. That's what the Anthony Jury did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    seems like the companies are not complying voluntarily with the request and want a court order.... understandable I guess.
    Wouldn't JM already have the records if he's talking about them in court?

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    Bombshell! A lost "Dear Diary" entry has just been found! I will post it as soon as I get home!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    You know, I know, Casey knew, and everyone else knows the truth about Caylees death. The jury knew too. The innocent verdict came because they followed the instructions. There was not one shred of physical evidence given, no DNA anywhere, nothing to directly tie her to the crime. Yes, the circumstances added up to us, but no verified evidence was ever given. I understand the verdict, I was involved as a juror in a miniscule case where we knew the crime was done, but the evidence and witnesses were not of anything concrete.
    Living a stone's throw from Orlando, so our news day and night was about Casey Anthony. She's not been seen since that day of the verdict until last week when she had to appear in a court in Tampa to(of all things) declare bankruptcy!
    That's what the Casey Anthony jury did alright. But they're not supposed to. Circumstantial Evidence is Evidence. They're not supposed to speculate on what's not there. They're supposed to examine what is there. The Casey Anthony Jury acted as though they were auditioning for a role on CSI. I think the popularity of the profession of "Criminalist" got to them and they were gonna show the real investigators that they knew better. I hope this Judge gets through to this Jury in a way that they understand their duty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Wouldn't JM already have the records if he's talking about them in court?
    I think you're right... the headline is "The State has filed a motion to enter as evidence keeper records from Walmart and Tesoro."

    sounds like they have the records and are filing to enter them as evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    I think you're right... the headline is "The State has filed a motion to enter as evidence keeper records from Walmart and Tesoro."

    sounds like they have the records and are filing to enter them as evidence.


    Can hardly wait til tomorrow. I was thinking that these records weren't going to come out until the rebuttal phase. Now I wonder if they'll be shown to Jodi tomorrow.

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    Huff Post has posted the picture of whomever it was that was arrested in TA's name in 2002 ~ def not TA

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...medium=twitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    This has been a loooooooooooooong, drawn out trial. It's killing me to have to wait until Wednesday for the testimony to start again. Many times, I've found myself imagining how different it would be if Judge Belvin Perry were presiding over this case (of course, he's in Florida, so can only be in my dreams!) but I LOVED his no nonsense approach in the courtroom. He held everyone involved, accountable. This judge is too permissive in letting the schedule get sidetracked as often as she does.
    I'm hoping these Jury Members have some vestigial memory of Frontier Justice. They're not so far away from the days of the Wild West where the Honor Code prevailed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    3/12/2013 MOT - Motion 3/12/2013
    NOTE: TO COMPEL; BUSINESS RECORDS FROM WAL-MART AND TESORO

    to me this looks like this is part of discovery possibly. Does "to compel" mean subpoena?

    ETA
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_to_compel
    A motion to compel asks the court to order either the opposing party or a third party to take some action. This sort of motion most commonly deals with discovery disputes, when a party who has propounded discovery to either the opposing party or a third party believes that the discovery responses are insufficient. The motion to compel is used to ask the court to order the non-complying party to produce the documentation or information requested, and/or to sanction the non-complying party for their failure to comply with the discovery requests.
    from what i am reading - i think its nurmi asking martinez for the walmart and tesero business records - it looks like they may have overlooked that in previous discovery -

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Huff Post has posted the picture of whomever it was that was arrested in TA's name in 2002 ~ def not TA
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...medium=twitter
    It was his brother, Dennis Alexander

    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    from what i am reading - i think its nurmi asking martinez for the walmart and tesero business records - it looks like they may have overlooked that in previous discovery -
    Thats what i thought at first actually. But I couldn't imagine JM trying to hide those documents from the defense, so I wasn't sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Bombshell! A lost "Dear Diary" entry has just been found! I will post it as soon as I get home!
    Mine never showed up. Is it one you wrote or mine? Things were very dull when I wrote mine, but now conversations have picked up again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    seems like the companies are not complying voluntarily with the request and want a court order.... understandable I guess.

    Most companies request a subpoena. The prosecution will also have to have a person from each company testify as to their record keeping requirements and the accuracy of the records. Unless of course Stabby and the defense want to stipulate that she lied ~ AGAIN!
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post

    Can hardly wait til tomorrow. I was thinking that these records weren't going to come out until the rebuttal phase. Now I wonder if they'll be shown to Jodi tomorrow.
    well, now it's been changed to "The State has filed a motion to compel business records from Wal-Mart and Tesoro" someone on Team Travis jumped the gun...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Most companies request a subpoena. The prosecution will also have to have a person from each company testify as to their record keeping requirements and the accuracy of the records. Unless of course Stabby and the defense want to stipulate that she lied ~ AGAIN!
    yep, I think you're right, I guess this is so late in the game because of how the trial has unfolded... kind of seems like this evidence should have been ready to go before this though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    yep, I think you're right, I guess this is so late in the game because of how the trial has unfolded... kind of seems like this evidence should have been ready to go before this though.

    Kind of hard though to predict what Stabby was going to testify to. Prosecution didn't get a preview of her testimony, Once she testified and then committed to the lie over and over - GAME ON!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    Mine never showed up. Is it one you wrote or mine? Things were very dull when I wrote mine, but now conversations have picked up again.


    I've never seen yours.
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