Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[Poppycock]

It was mentioned that some of my comments may have been " over the top " and "lewd " . Well that may be true because as I stated before some of my comments/jokes are used for shock value, and lets face it with the senselessness and the brutality of this crime and the fact that defendant is driving all of us crazy with her blatant lies and rambling nonsense ,cant we all use a little shock back to reality with a laugh or two? To insinuate that I may be some sort of degenerate who is getting my freak on in the shadows couldn't be further from the truth. I have been married for 23 years and only got my freak on once in college and it scared me. Now my freak on consists of kids in college paying the mortgage..WOW crazy huh ? What I am is a knowledge freak. I have access to every library in the world via this wonderful invention called the internet and that allows me to research and absorb everything that I am curious about. It is my belief that more people should read and investigate topics and things that they may find fascinating on the internet instead of playing Bejeweled 3 all day. I have raised my children with one mantra ...Knowledge is power ! ...study everything that interests you ...read everything that interests you ..become a well rounded person that knows just a little bit about everything , but still not enough to get into trouble ! Be a person that can carry on a conversation with anybody and be intelligent about it ! That is my rant....now lets get back to discussing this crazy bitch who likes to do the chocolate cha-cha and killed Travis

sorry, i have not seen you add any real information, i may have missed it. would you want your kids or wife to see the some of the posts you have put here? i admit i really would not want my sons to see some of mine.

[MoonDancer]

I hope, when I die, people have many, many laughs at my expense. I don't want people fussing over me. Have a great time, make fun of all the stupid things I've done, make some new jokes, come up with some great one-liners, just have a good time. Not that this has anything to do with this particular case. Just putting it in 'writing.'

Carry on.

Awww. If I'm around when you die, I won't laugh. I might giggle a bit as I nudge your body into a sail boat and set you afloat on the nearest body of water. Of course, the boat will be full of mango-papaya bubble bath so your lady bits smell eternally sweet.

[Mayhem]

It was mentioned that some of my comments may have been " over the top " and "lewd " . Well that may be true because as I stated before some of my comments/jokes are used for shock value, and lets face it with the senselessness and the brutality of this crime and the fact that defendant is driving all of us crazy with her blatant lies and rambling nonsense ,cant we all use a little shock back to reality with a laugh or two? To insinuate that I may be some sort of degenerate who is getting my freak on in the shadows couldn't be further from the truth. I have been married for 23 years and only got my freak on once in college and it scared me. Now my freak on consists of kids in college paying the mortgage..WOW crazy huh ? What I am is a knowledge freak. I have access to every library in the world via this wonderful invention called the internet and that allows me to research and absorb everything that I am curious about. It is my belief that more people should read and investigate topics and things that they may find fascinating on the internet instead of playing Bejeweled 3 all day. I have raised my children with one mantra ...Knowledge is power ! ...study everything that interests you ...read everything that interests you ..become a well rounded person that knows just a little bit about everything , but still not enough to get into trouble ! Be a person that can carry on a conversation with anybody and be intelligent about it ! That is my rant....now lets get back to discussing this crazy bitch who likes to do the chocolate cha-cha and killed Travis

Well put! hahaha kids in college paying the mortgage. You're a freak! I enjoy your posts.

Have one kid at an Ivy...I agree knowledge is power!

[comfort80]

Thanks. :)

ETA: I don't share any of this for sympathy. I only share because I think Jodi's excuses are a bunch of BS.

i have tried 2x now to give you more reps, and can't cause i need to spread it around.
but thanks for posting!

[zeebee]

Neither do I, yeah maybe he used her, but she allowed him to do it since the beggining. Now JA feels she was abused by TA because she is on the stand trying to avoid death penalty but she never said anything about it before he was dead. That "she killed him because se was abused" is plain BS, maybe he was a dick with her but that doesnt give her the right to kill somebody in the gruesome way she did it.

I find all this talk about Travis slightly amusing. I just do not get what he as a person has got to do with anything. I absolutely do not get why it should matter if Travis was a coffee drinking cunninglinguist with money coming out of his holy g-string. The only thing that should matter is if he was beating her blue just before she killed him. All signs point to no.

Exactly!!

[Poppycock]

I am new here, MY style is facts, giving and receiving. I don't do a lot of goofing around like some prefer. I enjoy reading humor I just don't do it myself. I spend time on tje case/
Sometimes I am workiing on researching things and can be brief but I never dreamed wanting facts is consider snark! I will always question for FACTS as I don't go off rumors.

If a more serious factual based style is not welcome here as another form of contribution, please let me know.

Like wasthinking, I am here for the discussion of the case.

And for the record I am team Travis all the way; there seems to be a few that may be team Jodi, or lukewarm either way. I guess as they say, that is what makes it interesting, agree to disagree, whatev, but there is a jodisinnocent site for the diehard Jodi fans. I am not here to argue or make cyber friends, though some of you seem very nice and intelligent.

Geez, i tried to come up with a username (can i change it somehow?) that would totally not apply to me, as not knowing who lurks here, would not want anyone to find out who i really am so needed one i have not used anywhere else. I just can't get into this lovey dovey light hearted stuff, but I will say that everyone seems accepting of that stance, so don't take it personally wasthink. Just take and add what you can!

[Pinkmink24]

Like used toilet paper...

[Missmandy9]

I blame all the craziness in this thread on the judge.
If she didn't allow so many long breaks we would not have time to dissect every little thing.

[Poppycock]

I don't see what the point of all the trash talking about Travis is.

I admit that earlier in the thread, I was interested in knowing more about Travis. I was surprised by what I learned because all I had heard about him in the past was that he was the greatest guy on the planet. It seems that was not so. I have said before that I probably would not have liked him because he was a bit of a ladies man and he seemed more focused on money, power and prestige than anything else. The truth is, he was not a saint. However, he also was not a total douchebag as witnessed by the many friends and family members who loved him very much.

OK, so that's Travis. Like most of us, somewhere in the middle between saint and sinner. In other words, completely normal.

However, some people seem to want to imply that he deserved what he got (or "should have known better") for treating Jodi badly. The fact is, we don't really know how he treated Jodi, we have only her word for it. And he "should have known" she was going to go all psycho stabby on him? Really? Who predicts that kind of thing?

Who among us have not made decisions that, in retrospect, are bad ones? I have probably almost died several times over for the stupid decisions I have made. Should I have known better? Maybe, but the fact is, at the time I made the decisions, I DID NOT. Hindsight is 20/20, as they say. Then also, judge not lest ye be judged.

right on!! he did try to get rid of her, she kept coming around; i still don't think he wanted her visit on June 4 but knew he could not stop her, i do think he was in fear of her as Dr. Karl Hiatt (father of a former roommate who took Travis in as family, they were so fond of him) has said in several interviews. http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/01/1...-his-own-death
She would show up many times unannounced and unwanted, as testified by Lisa and Mimi. IMO, he was too nervous to sleep that night, and the fact the sexy time did not begin until 1 p.m. he was not eager, in all liklihood was explaining he was moving on without her, until she finally seduced him to tire him out and get him in the shower eventually. She was running late for the murder but needed the opportunity and the surprise factor which finally came at 5:30. Now she is in a hurry to beat it before Enrique gets home. Hence a few incriminating pieces of evidence, thankfully!
my thought on her braided hairdo, is you don't want a bunch of hair in your face when your are going to heinously murder someone!

[DiaDeLosMuertos]

I am new here, MY style is facts, giving and receiving. I don't do a lot of goofing around like some prefer. I enjoy reading humor I just don't do it myself. I spend time on tje case/
Sometimes I am workiing on researching things and can be brief but I never dreamed wanting facts is consider snark! I will always question for FACTS as I don't go off rumors.

If a more serious factual based style is not welcome here as another form of contribution, please let me know.

Well your "brief and factual" tone comes off rude in my opinion. Especially when there's no please or thank you attached. She doesn't work at Estrella and was giving you her facts. Your response was

not buying generalities.

You didn't answer my question, how many in THAT Arizona jail.

Which wasn't a 'oh thanks for looking but I'm wondering about Estrella.' You may not intend it but I'm sure I'm not the only person that read it that way. You can be factual while being polite IMO.

[Eagle78550]

I too am team Travis. He may have been a lot of the things that are being said but he did not deserve to be a dead guy. He may have been a Jack-Mormon behind closed doors or in the cover of darkness but did not deserve the untimely demise. Jodi at anytime could have chosen to walk away but she stayed because she thought he was a keeper and he would grow to love and appreciate her. Isn't that what we all want and hope for ?
When in all reality she was his dirty little secret.
It was at the hand of Jodi that she chose a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Now she must and will pay the price for her actions. I feel that she unfortunately will not get the death penalty, due to a sympathetic jury pool that does not like to whack women ..but she will and should due to the overwhelming evidence get life with no hope of parole.

Jodi's downward spiral started from the very beginning when she gave up the coochie to quick ...if she had held out and had just a tad more self esteem we would not be having this 800+ thread about how fucked up she is. Maybe Travis would have seen her in a different light if she had been a little more reserved and maybe she could have been the girl that Travis wanted to find. But she is and was a creature of habit and lost all of Travis's respect from the very beginning.

I feel bad that the family is having to endure all this trash talking and smugness from the defense, I know I would not be able to see one of my loved ones portrayed in such light.

[debk589]

I was thinking about this case again last night, and I remembered in the opening statement DefenderSarahPalin said "Jodi made a choice that day, she could either choose to live, or she could choose to die", sooo basically, they're saying Travis was a murderer. No. Fucking. Way. Travis was an arrogant, money hungry, not a good mormon, horny dude. He was NOT a murderer. Jodi is. It makes me hate her even more that she's going to butcher him and then turn around and say HE was the murderer here, not her. This is why she deserves death. She shows no remorse whatsoever, and is putting his family through this hell, and calling her VICTIM the murderer.

[Pinkmink24]

Like used toilet paper...

[Crazy Lady]

I was thinking about this case again last night, and I remembered in the opening statement DefenderSarahPalin said "Jodi made a choice that day, she could either choose to live, or she could choose to die", sooo basically, they're saying Travis was a murderer. No. Fucking. Way. Travis was an arrogant, money hungry, not a good mormon, horny dude. He was NOT a murderer. Jodi is. It makes me hate her even more that she's going to butcher him and then turn around and say HE was the murderer here, not her. This is why she deserves death. She shows no remorse whatsoever, and is putting his family through this hell, and calling her VICTIM the murderer.

I agree a billion percent.

I haven't read everything from last night or today, I'm sooo confused about all the sniping at each other. If you don't like someone's opinion, move on. Don't go all Jodi and start being mean about it.

[DiaDeLosMuertos]

I'm only this far....

It doesn't matter. Jodi NEVER even attempted suicide. That was just a lie to add onto the pile of lies that she has already told.
Maybe you can look up the data if that is really something you feel is needed. No offense meant, but I just don't see how it is relevant. Maybe I am missing something. :/

This.

omg, it started with me being sarc, one of my rare funnies. "how she going to kill herself, eat her mattress and die of bowel obstruction'.
That poster came back with a blanket statement about how easy it is etc.
I replied, asking for that jail what are the stats.
They came back with throwing out a figure with no supported link to data.

That's what it was. Geesh, I see why people don't feel welcome.

The Hal helping you is a CO. This is her job. Trust that she isn't yanking your chain. You feel this way because you forgot your manners, that's all.

fellow OC and Inland empire ppl - have you heard about this manhunt for the crazy cop here that killed 2 ppl in irvine and ambushed the police in riverside this am??? i just posted it in the news section.......

Yes....it's crazytown up in here. I just woke up, have they caught him yet?

Mi scusi to whoever posted the link to Travis's obit page, I'm too lazy to scroll and give you credit.

This was what Jodi wrote:



I know we've established that she loves to lie (diary, etc), but I agree that this is frickin' ridiculous.

There are a lot of you who've been through horrid abuse, so I'm wondering...is this something you would write? I get that every relationship has its good times (usually), but do you view your tormentors with the same goodwill? This is purely speculative, but if I almost lost my life and had to stab/slice/shoot a person, I don't think I'd write that shit. I don't think I would write anything.

"They just found you slumped over in the shower decomposed because I killed you, but I totally think you've changed my life for the better."

I FUCKING HATE HER.

Man she's pure evil.

do you think that maybe she finally got it that she was never gonna be mrs alexander so part of her great plan was for her to be the poor bereaved gf/widow after they found travis - since she thought she covered all her bases in her alibi - and that would be her new persona - poor sweet jodi who would carry the torch of his memory forever since - i am sure she would have explained - that she really was his true love and he would have told every one soon - so that every one would feel sorry for her and become the center of every one's attention and rush to her side to take care of her?

Yes but they were already broken up by a year... I'm not sure she would have been coddled the way she wanted after that much time.

[DiaDeLosMuertos]

I don't see what the point of all the trash talking about Travis is.

I admit that earlier in the thread, I was interested in knowing more about Travis. I was surprised by what I learned because all I had heard about him in the past was that he was the greatest guy on the planet. It seems that was not so. I have said before that I probably would not have liked him because he was a bit of a ladies man and he seemed more focused on money, power and prestige than anything else. The truth is, he was not a saint. However, he also was not a total douchebag as witnessed by the many friends and family members who loved him very much.

OK, so that's Travis. Like most of us, somewhere in the middle between saint and sinner. In other words, completely normal.

However, some people seem to want to imply that he deserved what he got (or "should have known better") for treating Jodi badly. The fact is, we don't really know how he treated Jodi, we have only her word for it. And he "should have known" she was going to go all psycho stabby on him? Really? Who predicts that kind of thing?

Who among us have not made decisions that, in retrospect, are bad ones? I have probably almost died several times over for the stupid decisions I have made. Should I have known better? Maybe, but the fact is, at the time I made the decisions, I DID NOT. Hindsight is 20/20, as they say. Then also, judge not lest ye be judged.

Well said. I completely agree.

I find all this talk about Travis slightly amusing. I just do not get what he as a person has got to do with anything. I absolutely do not get why it should matter if Travis was a coffee drinking cunninglinguist with money coming out of his holy g-string. The only thing that should matter is if he was beating her blue just before she killed him. All signs point to no.

This. Lol

I too am team Travis. He may have been a lot of the things that are being said but he did not deserve to be a dead guy. He may have been a Jack-Mormon behind closed doors or in the cover of darkness but did not deserve the untimely demise. Jodi at anytime could have chosen to walk away but she stayed because she thought he was a keeper and he would grow to love and appreciate her. Isn't that what we all want and hope for ?
When in all reality she was his dirty little secret.
It was at the hand of Jodi that she chose a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Now she must and will pay the price for her actions. I feel that she unfortunately will not get the death penalty, due to a sympathetic jury pool that does not like to whack women ..but she will and should due to the overwhelming evidence get life with no hope of parole.

Jodi's downward spiral started from the very beginning when she gave up the coochie to quick ...if she had held out and had just a tad more self esteem we would not be having this 800+ thread about how fucked up she is. Maybe Travis would have seen her in a different light if she had been a little more reserved and maybe she could have been the girl that Travis wanted to find. But she is and was a creature of habit and lost all of Travis's respect from the very beginning.

I feel bad that the family is having to endure all this trash talking and smugness from the defense, I know I would not be able to see one of my loved ones portrayed in such light.

I agree.

I was thinking about this case again last night, and I remembered in the opening statement DefenderSarahPalin said "Jodi made a choice that day, she could either choose to live, or she could choose to die", sooo basically, they're saying Travis was a murderer. No. Fucking. Way. Travis was an arrogant, money hungry, not a good mormon, horny dude. He was NOT a murderer. Jodi is. It makes me hate her even more that she's going to butcher him and then turn around and say HE was the murderer here, not her. This is why she deserves death. She shows no remorse whatsoever, and is putting his family through this hell, and calling her VICTIM the murderer.

I hate this. I realize in court its normal to rip each other to shreds but this guy was far from a bad guy. He was just a guy. Many of my friends have dated douchier men and they didn't kill them.

[bubblebutt]

Who would admit to having sex with Travis before Jodi at this point? He only got with Mormon girls, so she'd have to admit to breaking her vows to the church with all the scorn that brings, plus be willing to talk about intimate details on national tv. She'd also have to be willing to admit to something that would help jodis case which would further make her a target.

Also the question should be, if a female who had slit the tires of your car several times, written threatening emails to new girlfriend, and hacked your private accounts repeatedly, would you continue to have sex with her even if she was "offering it up on a plate"?

How do you know he only got with mormon girls before Jodi?

[Poppycock]

HI I'am new here and this is my first post, Yay! I have been following this case pretty well, and I have uncovered something quite interesting, involving Travis's obituary, and Jodi's tribute message to the fact! I don't know if
this has been discussed here in this thread as you can see there is so many pages of information here, but I'll post the link! Tell me what you all think! Jodi's message is the sixth one down! All I can say is my, my I'am speechless!

http://www.legacy.com/guestbooks/pe/...722519&page=26

I hope you will be back, i like it when someone posts something i missed!! Jodi's entry is bizarre, but the rest are moving, especially grandma's, the first one.

[M Joy]

Like used toilet paper...

[bubblebutt]

I've been working as a 911 operator and police dispatcher for going on 5 years and mixing humor with the madness that is human existence is the only way we deal with the job. It's what I liked about this forum from the start. Life is too short for gods sake. damn

[bubblebutt]

I find all this talk about Travis slightly amusing. I just do not get what he as a person has got to do with anything. I absolutely do not get why it should matter if Travis was a coffee drinking cunninglinguist with money coming out of his holy g-string. The only thing that should matter is if he was beating her blue just before she killed him. All signs point to no.

[MoonDancer]

I just want to add my opinion, here.

BOTH Travis and Jodi are unlikeable people. These two had the misfortune of meeting each other and engaged in a deadly dance together. Travis seemed to think he could treat most women like shit and never be held accountable for it.

Jodi was fixated and determined to make him pay with his life for egging her on. NEITHER made wise decisions. I've known men like Travis and wished them straight to hell for their game playing and their obnoxious fixation on nookie. My own brother is one of them. I haven't spoken to him for over ten years because he played the same games as Travis. He did it with one of my best friends.

He's lucky to still be alive. Not just because of my best friend (who only cried and felt demoralized), but because of how many OTHER women he's treated like shit. One, in particular, was a hard core bitch who carried a knife everywhere she went.

For what it's worth: Again, I think both of them are / were unlikeable jackasses. Travis paid with his life, and Jodi will now pay with her own life.

[Pywackett]

I know there are some jodi support pages out there with a few nutty members, but is anybody here "Team Jodi"? Well besides, Ron, but that doesn't count.

[Crazy Lady]

I hope you will be back, i like it when someone posts something i missed!! Jodi's entry is bizarre, but the rest are moving, especially grandma's, the first one.

Travis, what can I say to you that I haven't already said? I am so grateful for the endless hours of conversation and amazing experiences we've shared. Thank you for having the courage to share the Gospel with me. You've had one of the greatest impacts on my life, and have forever altered it's course for the better. I love you, my friend, and always will.


~

Jodi Arias,

Yreka, California


It took me a few minutes to find Jodi's comment. She has nerve to post on his memorial site. She is truly a bitch.

[mydeathspace]

I was thinking about this case again last night, and I remembered in the opening statement DefenderSarahPalin said "Jodi made a choice that day, she could either choose to live, or she could choose to die", sooo basically, they're saying Travis was a murderer. No. Fucking. Way. Travis was an arrogant, money hungry, not a good mormon, horny dude. He was NOT a murderer. Jodi is. It makes me hate her even more that she's going to butcher him and then turn around and say HE was the murderer here, not her. This is why she deserves death. She shows no remorse whatsoever, and is putting his family through this hell, and calling her VICTIM the murderer.

Wrong.

Travis was a B-Hole murderer.