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    NEW BEDFORD — The defense lawyer for Michelle Carter, accused of encouraging a Mattapoisett teen to commit suicide, said she initially tried to get him help and suggested he join her at McLean Hospital, but then became "brainwashed" into assisting him with plans to take his own life.
    Carter, the 18-year-old Plainville teen charged with involuntary manslaughter, told Conrad Roy III, 18, to come and join her at McLean Hospital, a psychiatric facility in Belmont, where she was, according to Joseph P. Cataldo. He refused, Cataldo said.
    "He ultimately persuaded a young, impressionable girl," the attorney told reporters in an interview."Eventually he gets her to endorse his plan."
    Eleven days before Roy committed suicide on July 13, 2014, he sent Carter a text, saying they should commit suicide together "like Romeo and Juliet," the lawyer said. "(Expletive), no we are not dying," Carter replied, according to Cataldo.
    Roy died of carbon monoxide poisoning from a gas-powered water pump that was running inside the closed cab of his pickup truck, parked at the Fairhaven Kmart.
    Cataldo made his comments in support of a motion to dismiss the grand jury's indictment of Carter. Judge Bettina Borders took the motion under advisement and scheduled the case for Oct. 2 in New Bedford Juvenile Court.
    Cataldo did not elaborate on the purpose of Carter being at McLean, but co-counsel Cory Madera said the defense could raise it as an issue later in the case, if the defense loses the motion to dismiss.
    In rebuttal, prosecutor Katie Rayburn said Carter knew what she was doing was wrong, and asked Roy to delete her texts to him. She said later that Roy's family would be mad at her and she would go to jail, if those texts were found.
    Rayburn said in texts from July 6 to July 12, 2014, Carter berated Roy when he was having second thoughts and did not want to commit suicide, telling him on the night he finally took his own life to "get back in the car."
    In one text, Roy asked Carter: "How was your day?" and Carter answered, "When are you going to do it?" according to Rayburn.
    The Plainville teen knew Roy was "suicidal" and "especially vulnerable," told him she loved him and urged him to commit suicide, according to Rayburn.
    In his arguments Monday, Cataldo said the prosecution was "trying to apply manslaughter to speech." ... Her actual conduct in this case was words... Words over text messages, and a phone call."
    "It was his (Roy's) plan. He is someone who caused his own death," Cataldo said. Michelle Carter's only role in this is words."
    He said the two teens only saw each other "once or twice in two years," but exchanged "thousands and thousands of text messages."
    Cataldo called it a "sad and tragic case," but added that Roy was determined to take his own life, explaining the young man tried unsuccessfully two years earlier, had been in a psychiatric hospital and was taking different medications related to his mental state. He said Roy left behind "suicide notes" for his family when he left his home for what would be the last time.
    Rayburn said through the use of technology, Carter participated in Roy's suicide, sending him text messages right before he took his life and by being on the phone with Roy when he died.
    She called the words in Carter's texts "hurtful, offensive and likely to cause a violent act," adding that charges such as criminal harassment, stalking and threats are also based only on words. "One can be an aider and abetter simply because of words," she said.
    "He (Roy) dies when she's (Carter) on the phone with him," Rayburn said. "It's as though she's there. She hears the voice and hears the water pump. She wants to be on the phone with him to make sure he doesn't back out."
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    awww. she can do sad face too.




    In text messages released Friday by the Bristol County DA's office, 18-year-old Michelle Carter, charged with involuntary manslaughter in the suicide of a Mattapoisett teen, counseled the victim to overcome his fear of death and and said his suicide would not afflict his parents with emotional distress.
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    A few of the text messages
    There is no way you can fail … You’re strong … I love you to the moon and back and deeper than the ocean and higher than the pines, too, babe forever and always. It’s painless and quick,” prosecutors say Michelle Carter texted 18-year-old Conrad Roy III days before his suicide last summer.

    When Roy responded, “I’m sorry” and “Just doing this and everything. Like, I just had one life and I’m blowing it,” prosecutors say she replied: “Don’t be sorry Conrad,” and “You are my beautiful guardian angel forever and ever (smiley face) I’ll always smile up at you knowing that you aren’t far away.”

    After convincing Roy his parents would recover from his suicide because “I honestly feel like they can accept it,” Carter, 18, allegedly texted him, “Everyone will be sad for a while but they will get over it and move on.”

    “Yeah, you just have to do it. You have everything you need … Tonight is the night. It’s now or never.”

    The disturbing exchanges, included in a motion filed yesterday in New Bedford Juvenile Court, were sent between July 6 and July 12 — the day before Roy’s suicide — and provide the most detailed look yet inside the pair’s secret romantic relationship, which prosecutors say began in 2012 and was maintained mainly through texts and online messages.

    Even Roy’s best friend, prosecutors say, was unaware of it.

    Roy was found dead July 13, 2014, inside his pickup truck in the parking lot of a Fairhaven Kmart. Prosecutors say he used a generator to kill himself with carbon monoxide fumes.

    At one point prior to his suicide, Carter texted Roy: “Do you have the generator?”

    “Not yet LOL,” he replied.

    “WELL WHEN ARE YOU GETTING IT?” she texted back.

    “It’s okay to be scared and it’s normal. I mean, you’re about to die. I would be concerned if you weren’t scared, but I know how bad you want this and how bad you want to be happy,” prosecutors say Carter told Roy days before his death. “You have to face your fears for what you want.”

    When Roy went to Sears to buy a generator and told Carter he saw a man wearing a Jesus costume, she replied: “Ha, ha, ha. It’s a sign it’s your 
calling.”

    At another point Carter texted: “You can’t keep pushing it off, though. That’s all you keep doing.”

    Roy: “I’m gonna do it soon … I have the key so I’m going to get the generator in a 
few hours.”

    Carter: “A few hours isn’t soon, ha ha.”
    https://www.bostonherald.com/news_op...ush_to_suicide

    Then this.

    The documents also allege Carter sent a message to Roy's mother after his death saying, "...There was nothing anyone could do to save him no matter how hard they tried. I never tried harder at something in my life."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumaki15 View Post
    And yet, I can remember the guy who came to court with a shirt that said "Fuck the Police" on the back.
    Friend of mine had to defend someone on stalking charges, he rocked up to court wearing a T shirt with a porn star on it.

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    What a sick twisted little bitch. Here's a scary thought, if she does jail time it won't be long. She will get out and have still be young enough to have children. Can you imagine what she could do to a little kid? This girl is not right.


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    I really wonder what was going through the boys head when he was texting this chick about his pending suicide plan with remarks that include "lol".

    Like when she asked if he had the generator and he said (allegedly) "Net yet. lol"


    Why are you lol'ing about your suicide plan? What was going on in his head.
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    I really wonder what was going through the boys head when he was texting this chick about his pending suicide plan with remarks that include "lol".

    Like when she asked if he had the generator and he said (allegedly) "Net yet. lol"


    Why are you lol'ing about your suicide plan? What was going on in his head.
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    Not that I am in any way condoning her behavior, from reading the messages, it almost seems like she was encouraging the suicide from a place of caring. It kind of gives me the vibe of someone telling their terminally ill partner that it is okay to slip away and to not hold on anymore.

    Her smug face really bothers me, though.

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    Not that I am in any way condoning her behavior, from reading the messages, it almost seems like she was encouraging the suicide from a place of caring. It kind of gives me the vibe of someone telling their terminally ill partner that it is okay to slip away and to not hold on anymore.

    Her smug face really bothers me, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OctoberT View Post
    Not that I am in any way condoning her behavior, from reading the messages, it almost seems like she was encouraging the suicide from a place of caring. It kind of gives me the vibe of someone telling their terminally ill partner that it is okay to slip away and to not hold on anymore.

    Her smug face really bothers me, though.
    Yeah, I picked up on that too. Like they got caught up in some dramatic Romeo & Juliet meets Jack Kvorkian role play. The emotions are just so random and all over the place, I'm not sure to say either one of them really knew what they were doing.
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    FUCKING DOUBLES MAKE IT STAHP
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    Idiots on my facebook just discovered this case. My wall is covered in dumbasses carrying on dumbass conversations about it without knowing most of the information. This is why I hate people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumaki15 View Post
    Idiots on my facebook just discovered this case. My wall is covered in dumbasses carrying on dumbass conversations about it without knowing most of the information. This is why I hate people.
    Mee too. It's not their fault they don't have as good of taste in websites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jumaki15 View Post
    Idiots on my facebook just discovered this case. My wall is covered in dumbasses carrying on dumbass conversations about it without knowing most of the information. This is why I hate people.
    Mee too. It's not their fault they don't have as good of taste in websites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    What a sick twisted little bitch. Here's a scary thought, if she does jail time it won't be long. She will get out and have still be young enough to have children. Can you imagine what she could do to a little kid? This girl is not right.
    I agree .... this girl is a downright evil manipulative little bitch

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    What a sick twisted little bitch. Here's a scary thought, if she does jail time it won't be long. She will get out and have still be young enough to have children. Can you imagine what she could do to a little kid? This girl is not right.
    I agree .... this girl is a downright evil manipulative little bitch

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    What this girl did was beyond love and support. Even cases of terminal patients, you support their decision. You don't badger them to go thru with it. You let them know you are there. This guy wasn't terminally ill. It might have been as simple as seeing a doctor for help. He was so young. I remember being 18 and hopeless. The person you are at 18 isn't the same at 21. The guy could have had a chance if he would have found other friends who actually cared. She just wanted to see what it was like to watch someone die.


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    Yeah. I'm not falling for the act. Bitch is manipulative and gross. I can't believe people are actually buying it.
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    She definitely has the Miss Piggy "Kermieeee" pouty face down. I wonder how long she practiced in front of a mirror to pull it off.

    Ooopsie.....Guess she forgot to stay in character
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    That's quite a fivehead she's got, you guys are right. More like an eighthead.

    What kind of person thinks it's a good idea to "help" someone kill themselves?

    News flash, bitch, it's definitely not a "friend". For the life of me I don't know why this twatprincess hasn't been put under the jail yet.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Go fuck yourself.

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    That's quite a fivehead she's got, you guys are right. More like an eighthead.

    What kind of person thinks it's a good idea to "help" someone kill themselves?

    News flash, bitch, it's definitely not a "friend". For the life of me I don't know why this twatprincess hasn't been put under the jail yet.
    Don't like what I have to say? I respect that. Go fuck yourself.

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    I said she did Pouty face really well. She takes Bitch Face to a whole new level.


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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    She definitely has the Miss Piggy "Kermieeee" pouty face down. I wonder how long she practiced in front of a mirror to pull it off.

    Ooopsie.....Guess she forgot to stay in character
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    McKayla did it better (which isn't saying much).

    But yeah, she'll probably get off scot-free. I was trying to think of some kind of community service to help teach her the value of human life, but the only relevant thing I came up with was suicide prevention hotlines. NOT an option here.

    Brat.
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    I can't imagine talking like that to someone who I cared about and was suicidal. I've had several people who wanted to die text me knowing I've been in that position myself before and all I do is make sure that they know how loved they are and that they would be missed and that it'll get better. Encouraging it and basically begging them to do it is just fucked up. Ugh. This story hurts my heart.

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    I wonder if this stupid, shallow little girl, being the faker/drama queen that she is, & knowing that she herself was manipulating people for attention when she said she was suicidal, assumed everyone is just dramatising for attention when they say their depressed/suicidal.

    She seems to treat interpersonal relationships as a giant DRAMATIC roleplay. She couldn't see what he was doing during the last days of their text conversation. I wonder if she thought his descriptions of his actions/feelings were as fake as her lies to others re her distress at him "going missing".


    Either way, this girl needs to wear a warning label for the rest of her life - luckily there's plenty of room for one on her forehead.

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    I don't say this about a lot of people but I think she's a cunt. I think her mom is too.

    It's so tragic and depressing to me knowing that people around there don't see anything wrong with what she did. She gets out on a bond and mom is posting pictures of her going to Disney and prom. Tacky

    Something is seriously wrong with somebody when they show no empathy. I'm convinced this girl is void of that.

    It's clear to me that this girl wanted the boy to suicide. Why? For the attention. She wanted to secretly giggle to herself knowing that she talked him into it.

    I really believe she is going to walk from these charges. Then she's going to go off to college.......somewhere.

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