Guilty of 2nd degree murder
Guilty of manslaughter
Guilty of aggravated battery
Guilty of culpable negligence
Guilty of felony battery
Not Guilty
Hung Jury
You poor thick headed wanna be detective. You are pitiful.Originally Posted by SidewaysLS4
Well, I guess with a recording of the events in question disagreeing with the sequence of events you propose, not much else I can do to counter a well thought out arguement of "Bullshit. Pure and simple". You win!
Again, the entire defense is "I was trying to rape this girl and then she kicked me so I strangled her, I mean, i was scared. She could have hurt me!"
@princss6 5s
Next up - Sean, the dispatcher! Shorter Translation for Sean: Dude, get your ass back in your car!
It WAS a racial thing, again are you new here? Have you read the history of GZ's calls to the police? He repeatedly called to report black individuals in the neighborhood, even going so far as to report a 9 year old kid. As far as not kicking GZ's ass, where is Trayvons right to defend himself? He was fucking minding his own business, he told the girl he was talking to him that he was being followed. Let someone start slowly following you in a car, then get out of the car and following you down the sidewalk and tell me you are not going to turn around and want to know why you are being followed. This is exactly what he did, it was heard by the person he was on the phone with, he asked, "why are you following me?"
Then she hears what sounds like a confrontation and the phone was dropped. GZ started a fucking fight and then the little coward shot when he got a bloody nose. I am sorry but self defense law states you can use the force necessary to defend your life. A gunshot for a bloody nose and a bump on the head does not equal life threatening.[/QUOTE]
But the WIND NOISE disproves your theory and totally supports the defense!!
I've attached a link of a Neighborhood Crime Watch Guide. Read it and pay attention to page seven. When I was involved in our NCW, the statement repeated numerous times was "take no action - call the police".
http://www.co.comal.tx.us/so/CRT/Nei...g%20Manual.pdf
But Zimmerman was not letting this one get away.
“These assholes, they always get away,” Zimmerman answers.
The officer asks, “What’s behind that?”
“These people who victimize the neighborhood,” Zimmerman answers.
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politic...w?src=soc_twtr
thats what ours says - cuz its called neighborhood watch, not neighborhood chase
I believe he lied about knowing he had his "firearm" with him as well. He was going to Target with a round in the chamber? People who carry guns do not just fucking forget they have them.
New here? Not too new. I didnt read whatever history is there, after seeing how creative editing on major networks tried to turn this into a "race" thing, I tended to ignore the gibberish on this, and waited for the trial. Get both sides of the story ya know.
BTW...it is the fear of life-threating action that is involved in the statutes. Waiting until his brains are spilled out of the crack in his skull would be foolish on his part.
Again, really hard to argue with such an eloquent well-reasoned response. I bow to your superior debate skillz!
In my mind this is what hurts Zimmerman more than the 911 call
http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/zimm...-on-feb/vcQzm/
Holy shit...did I just hear 'contemporanious'? Jody...is that you? LOL
I think that word is forever associated with Stabby :)
You can attempt to act superior all you want. Your comments tell the true tale.Again, really hard to argue with such an eloquent well-reasoned response. I bow to your superior debate skillz!
A few moments later, he asks Zimmerman why he kept following Martin even after the police dispatcher told him not to. Zimmerman’s answer is staggering.
“I wanted to give them an address.”
An address? This may be the moment that will convict him. It means that even he suspected that Martin was a legitimate visitor to the complex, staying in an apartment and legally on the property, Zimmerman continued to pursue him. And it makes sense that Martin was staying there because of the terrain, the complex being isolated from other complexes and a mile distant from the nearest shopping center. A professional thief would be moving intentionally, not wandering down the middle of the street in the full light of the streetlamps. Although Zimmerman’s fear supposedly hinges on the series of robberies that the police believed had been addressed already with an arrest, it seems clear that even Zimmerman didn’t really believe his own alibi. More likely, even in his mind, Martin was a kid from the neighborhood out smoking a joint and at the worst, looking for a little illicit excitement — a “fking punk.”
http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politic...w?src=soc_twtr
Then it is very presumptious to argue with people who have been following this case, who have looked into the history of GZ's previous calls, looked at the accusations thrown at Trayvon and listened to the news stories from both sides and made obection decisions. You are admitting ignorance but saying it was "turned" into a race thing, that it is gibberish.
There are facts out there for those who care to look, I have been posting over and over about the hands over the mouth, the no dna on Trayvon that was brought out in the opening statement. So yes there is info out there if you care enough to look.
Don't start arguments and poke sticks with people who actually care about this victim or state things you know nothing about.
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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to dianalyn again.
You misspelled executioner.
Will you people learn how to quote?
+1 !
Couple of things: I deleted the unrelated chatter that was going on in here. If you guys want to talk about missing animals, use chit chat, please, not this thread. This is a death thread.
Also, please learn the proper way to quote. If you are having trouble with the fast quote, then copy/paste whatever you're quoting and stick it in using the little quote bubble. Thanks!
@WildAboutTrial
Judge is going to recess for the day and take this issue up tomorrow morning at 8:30am ET. Jury on way in to be excused. #Zimmerman
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Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
O'Mara wants to know why these non emergency calls from 10 months before have any relevance to the trial. #Zimmerman
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Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial
O'Mara does not like these 911 exhibits and objects to them. Judge dismisses the jury for a moment to discuss this issue.
I loved when Noffky (the dispatcher) was on the stand. There was a minute where West didn't know what to say in response. I wish I knew exactly what was said but basically he said Zimmerman should not have followed him.
its on hln right now
Couple of things:
Mr. West seemed quite befuddled during his opening statement; I wondered at times if he was having TIAs (mini strokes.)
Loved the judge's "don't 'no no no' me here" to O'Mara!
I've been waiting to hear details about Zimmerman's history of 911 calls. Will be very PO'd if this does not happen. These are highly relevant IMHO.
hEY, HAVEN'T BEEN FOLLOWING THIS BUT FOUND THIS POSTED BY eSQUIRE. tHOUGHT IT WAS INTERESTING...
(Damn caplock, sorry)
George Zimmerman is going to be found guilty. All the evidence you need — all the evidence the cops needed — is right there in the interrogation they did with him three days after the shooting. The only thing more shocking than what Zimmerman says in the clip, which was released on the internet one year ago, is how little it has impressed the bloviating jerks who dominate the coverage of this trial.
Why did he follow Martin, a police officer asks.
“These assholes, they always get away,” Zimmerman answers.
The officer asks, “What’s behind that?”
“These people who victimize the neighborhood,” Zimmerman answers.
In Zimmerman’s angry mind, without trial or jury, even after he killed him and learned he was a 17-year-old who was legitimately staying in the complex, Martin was an asshole victimizing the neighborhood.
The officer gets a little defensive at this point. “There was an arrest a week ago,” he points out, though it is also a gentle reminder that Zimmerman’s fear might be a tad misplaced. He continues, skeptically. "How was he running?" Zimmerman describes it and the officer says, “Sounds like he was running to get away... you jumped out of car to see which way he was running? That’s not fear … it’s going to be a problem.”
Then Zimmerman whispers something. “What is that you whispered?” the officer asks. “Fucking what?”
“Punks,” Zimmerman says.
This time, the officer seems genuinely taken aback. “He wasn’t a fucking punk,” he responds.
A few moments later, he asks Zimmerman why he kept following Martin even after the police dispatcher told him not to. Zimmerman’s answer is staggering.
“I wanted to give them an address.”
An address? This may be the moment that will convict him. It means that even he suspected that Martin was a legitimate visitor to the complex, staying in an apartment and legally on the property, Zimmerman continued to pursue him. And it makes sense that Martin was staying there because of the terrain, the complex being isolated from other complexes and a mile distant from the nearest shopping center. A professional thief would be moving intentionally, not wandering down the middle of the street in the full light of the streetlamps. Although Zimmerman’s fear supposedly hinges on the series of robberies that the police believed had been addressed already with an arrest, it seems clear that even Zimmerman didn’t really believe his own alibi. More likely, even in his mind, Martin was a kid from the neighborhood out smoking a joint and at the worst, looking for a little illicit excitement — a “fking punk.”
At this point, the officer asks again why he was following Martin — and Zimmerman flat-out lies. “I wasn’t following him, I was just going in the same direction he was.” The cop just laughs.
The next moment reveals another aspect of Zimmerman’s state of mind, flat-out paranoia. The officer plays the tape of him with the police dispatcher, when he refuses to give his address to the dispatcher “out loud” — the embattled neighborhood watch volunteer so afraid of the fking punks in his neighborhood that he’s afraid of giving the police his address, despite the complete lack of evidence that any of those punks had ever attacked him before. Like these fearsome criminals are tapping the public airwaves and listening to cell phone conversations just to get him.
Again, the officer asks why he didn’t get back in his car after being told to, why he was so determined to get Martin that he stood in the rain. “You wanted to catch him, you wanted to catch the bad guy, fking punk.”
Zimmerman goes silent. Prodded again, he says, “I felt like I didn’t give them an adequate description.” There’s an edge in his voice at this point like he’s starting to get offended. The officer tries to reassure him: “We’re working for you here.”
But they persist. How could Martin have been smothering Zimmerman at the same time Zimmerman was, as he claimed, screaming his head off for help? (This is on the disputed tape that won’t be allowed in court, which foundered because voice experts couldn’t agree who was screaming.) This was just before the fatal gunshot.
“It’s continuous screaming,” another officer asks, “how can you be smothered?”
Damn good question.
“You think he might have seen you had a gun before he punched you?” the first officer asks.
Another damn good question.
“What was the provocation for punching you other than you were following him?” another officer asks.
By this time, Zimmerman is losing his patience. “I’ve gone through it a million times.” Despite his passion for justice, repeated questions about the death of a 17-year-old boy at his own hands annoys him.
Soon after, the interview devolved into pleasantries. Zimmerman says he’s taking his wife to the beach for the weekend, and the lead officer asks, “Which beach?”
Then they let him go.
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*facepalm* PCP, that entire thing was pasted ONE PAGE AGO.
Again, people, I don't expect anyone to read the entire thread at this point but please browse back a couple of pages at least to avoid posting information that has JUST been posted.
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