They don't get to go home, sequestered remember? :)Originally Posted by Ron_NYC
Guilty of 2nd degree murder
Guilty of manslaughter
Guilty of aggravated battery
Guilty of culpable negligence
Guilty of felony battery
Not Guilty
Hung Jury
They don't get to go home, sequestered remember? :)
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O'Mara wants to know if the state is going to call #Zimmerman's parents or if they have them on the witness list just to keep them out.
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Judge has been observing family and friends in the gallery and she hasn't observed any emotional comments or outbursts. #Zimmerman
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Judge says "Don't no no no me" to O'Mara as he tries to get his way. She urges O'Mara to stay on topic. #Zimmerman
Oh, didn't know. Interesting.
What part of "We don't need you do that" don't you get?
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O'Mara wants the mom and dad on both sides to be removed, "it's only fair" he says. Judge basically says "ain't no body got time for that"
O'Mara pitching a fit because Zimmerman's parents aren't allowed in the court room because they're on the State's witness list
i like this judge
Yea, most people use the that-dispatcher-has-no-authority-to-give-orders argument. Because it's kind of difficult not to acknowledge that it was suggested he stop pursuing the suspect.
Oops, did I say suspect? I meant person. No need to pursue that person, sir.
Last edited by Ron_NYC; 06-24-2013 at 10:49 AM.
What part of this statement being made AFTER Zimmerman getting out the vehicle and trotting down the walkway to see where Travon went are you not getting? Cant un-ring a bell.
Me too, she's not putting up with any defense bullshiti like this judge
Based on the police statement that Sneakers so kindly posted it would be absolutely insane if GZ gets off. He clearly shows absolutely no remorse in this interview. Even IF justified, most people would be really shaken and remorseful that they were put in the position of shooting and killing a 17 y/o kid. They wouldn't be calling them a punk or an asshole. Only thing that worries me is FL is a lot like SC, most white women have some degree of prejudice whether they admit it or not. This could very well impact their decision despite whatever the evidence shows.
"Theoretical physics can prove that an elephant can hang from a cliff with its tail tied to a daisy. But use your eyes, your common sense".... JIM GARRISON
Well, he is in FL, home of face-eating zombies afterall. But I'm having a hard time linking "we dont need you to do that" with "turning around w/butt back in vehicle"...big stretch in meanings. It is his neighborhood afterall, why should he not feel like he shouldnt walk around in it...especially as part of some sort of neighborhood watch program?
I have come to conclusion that sideways is a troll. They know they make no sense and there is no defense to Zombie George NOT stopping when told to. His supporters just don't want to admit that.
Trayvon or Zimmerman?
Last edited by Ron_NYC; 06-24-2013 at 11:09 AM.
It was Trayvons right to be there too, he was an INVITED guest, why shouldn't he have been able to walk through safely? GZ NEVER identified himself as neighborhood watch or anything else, he just started following a scared kid.
That Esquire article was a great read! Zimmerman's words should do him in along with his actions
Exactly! Why didn't he ID himself as neighborhood watch?
Well Zimmerman of courseYou know it's against the law to be walking while black after dark in South!
Walk around it, yes. Stalk an unarmed kid that he suspected resided in the neighborhood? No.
here is the transcript f the 911 call http://www.documentcloud.org/documen...zimmerman.html
she says - are you following him
george - yes
disoatch - we don't need you to do that
george - ok
he agreed not to follow him to the dispatcher, if he said no thats when the dispatcher would have said sit your ass down, but he agreed not too!
Yea, dispatch is telling Zimmerman not to walk around the neighborhood? The nerve. And Trayvon was walking around the neighborhood. The nerve.Well Zimmerman of course
At what point was he told to turn around? You are having a hard time dealing with facts.
I'm wondering if you are a troll...or someone with some significant comprehension issues.
For a refresher...
At 50:30 Zimmerman says he's running, opens the car door, and follows with corresponding windnoise sounds. At 50:55 dispatcher says "dont need you to do that". You can hear him slowing and stopping as the wind noise subsides. How did he not stop again? Seems like he just was standing around at that point.
Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch guy in case there is some confusion here :)
This is one screwed up situation for sure, but claiming it was a racial thing, or some dirty-harry thing, or just editing the evidence or just flat out ignoring things or making them up alltogether doesnt make a wrong right. Travon probably shouldnt have kicked Zimmermans ass, then this mess wouldnt have turned out like it did.
Because he was gonna do what he damned well please and stalk that punk ass kid!
Bullshit. Pure and simple. Love your blame the victim comment. GZ had no right to stalk that kid and was told to stop. He didn't. There is no lack of comprehension here except on your part. And for anyone to think race didn't play a part in this is an idiot.
that was for sideways who keeps saying alternatley the dispatch never told him not to follow or the other saying george was already gone when she said it so zimmerman didn't here it
At this point, the officer asks again why he was following Martin — and Zimmerman flat-out lies. “I wasn’t following him, I was just going in the same direction he was.” The cop just laughs.
Read more: The Quote that May End the Trayvon Trial - Esquire
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Well, I guess with a recording of the events in question disagreeing with the sequence of events you propose, not much else I can do to counter a well thought out arguement of "Bullshit. Pure and simple". You win!
It WAS a racial thing, again are you new here? Have you read the history of GZ's calls to the police? He repeatedly called to report black individuals in the neighborhood, even going so far as to report a 9 year old kid. As far as not kicking GZ's ass, where is Trayvons right to defend himself? He was fucking minding his own business, he told the girl he was talking to him that he was being followed. Let someone start slowly following you in a car, then get out of the car and following you down the sidewalk and tell me you are not going to turn around and want to know why you are being followed. This is exactly what he did, it was heard by the person he was on the phone with, he asked, "why are you following me?"Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch guy in case there is some confusion here :)
This is one screwed up situation for sure, but claiming it was a racial thing, or some dirty-harry thing, or just editing the evidence or just flat out ignoring things or making them up alltogether doesnt make a wrong right. Travon probably shouldnt have kicked Zimmermans ass, then this mess wouldnt have turned out like it did.
Then she hears what sounds like a confrontation and the phone was dropped. GZ started a fucking fight and then the little coward shot when he got a bloody nose. I am sorry but self defense law states you can use the force necessary to defend your life. A gunshot for a bloody nose and a bump on the head does not equal life threatening.
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