Exactly.Originally Posted by Ron_NYC
Guilty of 2nd degree murder
Guilty of manslaughter
Guilty of aggravated battery
Guilty of culpable negligence
Guilty of felony battery
Not Guilty
Hung Jury
Exactly.
Playing devil's advocate...could be 'hang 'im high', if they are all nanny-state subjects with the government's boot on their throat...and liking that. Things are different elsewhere from "NYC", Ron from NYC
Open mind or not, a kid is dead because Vigilante George couldn't keep his ass in the car like instructed; which is why he should be convicted. Anything else is irrelevant. His actions and his alone resulted in death.
Could have sworn he got out of the car to get a bearing on Travon when asked for it, then later came the 'we dont need you to do that'...are we watching the same trial?
What?
No, this would have never happened if Thugvon didn't look so dangerous. Duh.
If Obama had a son, he'd look like him.
He wasn't asked to leave his vehicle to get a "bearing" on Trayvon's location. The 911 operator told him "we don' need you to do that"
Interesting that it was OMara that called for the lunch recess - he must know that West is bumbling badly.
Already the George Zimmerman defense team is making waves by seemingly insulting the jury.
How?
In their opening remarks, Zimmerman's team makes a knock-knock joke implying that the only reason the jury was selected is because they are ignorant enough not to know who Zimmerman is. According to resident attorney Eric Guster, this is not a good look for the defense team. Read his analysis here:
http://newsone.com/2612704/george-zimmerman-trial-9/
West - Zimmerman's lawyer - actually told the jury to take into consideration Trayvon's height including his hoodie
I posted a link to the video of it on the last page - it was worse watching it happen than it is reading about it. It went over like a lead balloon
West - Zimmerman's lawyer - actually told the jury to take into consideration Trayvon's height including his hoodie
This is fucking ridiculous.
Ha, thanks, Sneakers.
I watched the video of the joke. And that was painful.
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Yeah the whole thing about him being 5'11 and what was it 150, he's not skinny! Along with he did NOT go home. uh.. he does have the right to fucking walk any damn where he wants if he is not doing anything wrong. GZ does not look like he can stay awake for his own damn trial, put a donut in front of the man to spark his fucking interestWest - Zimmerman's lawyer - actually told the jury to take into consideration Trayvon's height including his hoodie
Trayvon didn't go home because Zimmerman murdered him
Prosecition opening...
Here is live feed of trial
http://wildabouttrial.com/george-zim...ve-stream.html
The Quote That Should End the Trayvon Trial
George Zimmerman is going to be found guilty. All the evidence you need — all the evidence the cops needed — is right there in the interrogation they did with him three days after the shooting. The only thing more shocking than what Zimmerman says in the clip, which was released on the internet one year ago, is how little it has impressed the bloviating assholes who dominate the coverage of this trial.
Why did he follow Martin, a police officer asks.
“These assholes, they always get away,” Zimmerman answers.
The officer asks, “What’s behind that?”
“These people who victimize the neighborhood,” Zimmerman answers.
In Zimmerman’s angry mind, without trial or jury, even after he killed him and learned he was a 17-year-old who was legitimately staying in the complex, Martin was an asshole victimizing the neighborhood.
The officer gets a little defensive at this point. “There was an arrest a week ago,” he points out, though it is also a gentle reminder that Zimmerman’s fear might be a tad misplaced. He continues, skeptically. "How was he running?" Zimmerman describes it and the officer says, “Sounds like he was running to get away... you jumped out of car to see which way he was running? That’s not fear … it’s going to be a problem.”
Then Zimmerman whispers something. “What is that you whispered?” the officer asks. “Fucking what?”
“Punks,” Zimmerman says.
This time, the officer seems genuinely taken aback. “He wasn’t a fucking punk,” he responds.
A few moments later, he asks Zimmerman why he kept following Martin even after the police dispatcher told him not to. Zimmerman’s answer is staggering.
“I wanted to give them an address.”
An address? This may be the moment that will convict him. It means that even he suspected that Martin was a legitimate visitor to the complex, staying in an apartment and legally on the property, Zimmerman continued to pursue him. And it makes sense that Martin was staying there because of the terrain, the complex being isolated from other complexes and a mile distant from the nearest shopping center. A professional thief would be moving intentionally, not wandering down the middle of the street in the full light of the streetlamps. Although Zimmerman’s fear supposedly hinges on the series of robberies that the police believed had been addressed already with an arrest, it seems clear that even Zimmerman didn’t really believe his own alibi. More likely, even in his mind, Martin was a kid from the neighborhood out smoking a joint and at the worst, looking for a little illicit excitement — a “fking punk.”
At this point, the officer asks again why he was following Martin — and Zimmerman flat-out lies. “I wasn’t following him, I was just going in the same direction he was.” The cop just laughs.
The next moment reveals another aspect of Zimmerman’s state of mind, flat-out paranoia. The officer plays the tape of him with the police dispatcher, when he refuses to give his address to the dispatcher “out loud” — the embattled neighborhood watch volunteer so afraid of the fking punks in his neighborhood that he’s afraid of giving the police his address, despite the complete lack of evidence that any of those punks had ever attacked him before. Like these fearsome criminals are tapping the public airwaves and listening to cell phone conversations just to get him.
Again, the officer asks why he didn’t get back in his car after being told to, why he was so determined to get Martin that he stood in the rain. “You wanted to catch him, you wanted to catch the bad guy, fking punk.”
Zimmerman goes silent. Prodded again, he says, “I felt like I didn’t give them an adequate description.” There’s an edge in his voice at this point like he’s starting to get offended. The officer tries to reassure him: “We’re working for you here.”
But they persist. How could Martin have been smothering Zimmerman at the same time Zimmerman was, as he claimed, screaming his head off for help? (This is on the disputed tape that won’t be allowed in court, which foundered because voice experts couldn’t agree who was screaming.) This was just before the fatal gunshot.
“It’s continuous screaming,” another officer asks, “how can you be smothered?”
Damn good question.
“You think he might have seen you had a gun before he punched you?” the first officer asks.
Another damn good question.
“What was the provocation for punching you other than you were following him?” another officer asks.
By this time, Zimmerman is losing his patience. “I’ve gone through it a million times.” Despite his passion for justice, repeated questions about the death of a 17-year-old boy at his own hands annoys him.
Soon after, the interview devolved into pleasantries. Zimmerman says he’s taking his wife to the beach for the weekend, and the lead officer asks, “Which beach?”
Then they let him go
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[QUOTE=Sneakers the Wonder Dog;3448965]The Quote That Should End the Trayvon Trial
Soon after, the interview devolved into pleasantries. Zimmerman says he’s taking his wife to the beach for the weekend, and the lead officer asks, “Which beach?”
Then they let him go
Wow, hey George you just killed a 17 year old black kid,what are you gonna do next!
I am taking my wife to the beach, guess we should be glad he did not say Disneyland
You call 911 to report "suspicious" activity. You do NOT stalk the person. Any officer or 911 operator will tell you to NOT follow. He was asked to stay IN the car.
The more of this that is posted, the more hope for a conviction I have!
thats the first thing i thought! and i bet every women on that jury - which is the entire jury - is thinking the atty is talking down to them, i would be pissed
I kept hearing this guy was such a good attorney, experienced yadda yadda, but he got so many sustained objections in his opening! And having to be instructed over and over the difference in closing and opening argument, just pitiful
Oh yes you must absolutely consider height and hoodie. That adds to the deadly trajectory and force in which a skittle of death travels when it is being thrown. GZ could have been mortally wounded.West - Zimmerman's lawyer - actually told the jury to take into consideration Trayvon's height including his hoodie
"Theoretical physics can prove that an elephant can hang from a cliff with its tail tied to a daisy. But use your eyes, your common sense".... JIM GARRISON
He wasnt told not to either. Dispatcher questioned what was up after hearing wind noise when Zimmerman left the vehicle.
Again, are we watching the same trial and recordings?
No matter, this is getting kinda twisted with the Defense trying the whole case in opening, I loved the "soft" commentary...had visions of the Pillsbury Doughboy when they cut to Zimmerman, lol.
Oh well, should be an interesting show.
These are the people that think this could be avoided if Trayvon dressed differently and/or stayed inside to begin with. Really expect them to realize how that joke could go over as offensive?
Just hope these Florida women don't go home to do what they're told by their husbands.
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