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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Thanks M, I was wondering what time it started tomorrow.

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    Defense is trying to get the Death Penalty off the table, it was denied. Can't post links yet, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chauncy View Post
    I would like to see a torture death penalty enacted.

    First they take off her finger and toenails with pliers very slowly. Then pour gasoline all over them. Then i would want her to be slowly skinned alive. When the muscle is exposed, pour chemicals all over her skinless body to make her burn. Then get 20 hung black men to rape her and cum all over her. Then nail her to a cross, pop our her eyeballs and throw sharp darts at her. After this, bring in some lions and have them eat her alive.
    Oh my God, that's so debasing...I like it
    :o)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badboobee View Post
    Defense is trying to get the Death Penalty off the table, it was denied. Can't post links yet, sorry.
    PM me please and I'll put it up.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Here ya go.

    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov...3/m5764131.pdf

    ETA Thanks for finding that. Looks like there will be court after all tomorrow!


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Really? Take DP off the table? Im not bothered by LWOP or whatever happens. I think it's all a waste of human lives (Travis as well as jodi) what a shame all this and for what?? Don't go hating on me ..... I have children and can't imagine being on either side of this tragedy. It's effected way to many people and it'll never be completely over. Travis is still gone. Just a shame...and for what? No cancun? He didn't want to marry her? We've all been wronged at some point but we move on

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Here ya go.

    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov...3/m5764131.pdf

    ETA Thanks for finding that. Looks like there will be court after all tomorrow!
    Thanks faq - this is dated May 8, but I haven't seen it mentioned here yet. If it has been discussed I apologize.

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    Possibly a dumb question...in the minutes...where it says "IT IS ORDERED sealing the in chambers hearing not to be transcribed until the conclusion of the trial" does that mean that after the trial is over, they are going to release what was actually said in the meeting, not just the subject matter?

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    Ugh - apparently can't quote yet either. Anyway, thanks faq. This motion is dated May 8 so I don't know if it has been discussed here or not yet. If it has I apologize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Here ya go.

    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov...3/m5764131.pdf

    ETA Thanks for finding that. Looks like there will be court after all tomorrow!
    She has to be thinking that her bratty interview stint (ugh, just let me die already) is going to come back and bite her on her ass .

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    Yea strange she said death now wants it off..... Jodi doesn't know what jodi wants?? Idk

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Here ya go.

    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov...3/m5764131.pdf

    ETA Thanks for finding that. Looks like there will be court after all tomorrow!
    this was posted a couple of days ago by Sneakers

    Quote Originally Posted by Badboobee View Post
    Ugh - apparently can't quote yet either. Anyway, thanks faq. This motion is dated May 8 so I don't know if it has been discussed here or not yet. If it has I apologize.
    To quote you have to click 'Reply with Quote'

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    this was posted a couple of days ago by Sneakers



    To quote you have to click 'Reply with Quote'
    My bad...I guess I should have looked at the date.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Judge Stephens clamping down on media interviews
    altough I wish this had happened sooner....
    Moments ago, the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office received an order from the Superior Court of Arizona and Honorable Judge Sherry Stephens that from today, prohibits Sheriff’s Office officials from approaching defendant Jodi Arias for the purposes of media interview requests.

    We will not attempt to contact Arias for purposes of media interviews until that order is lifted by the court.

    Once the court lifts the order, and if inmate Arias agrees to do interviews, all interested media parties will be notified immediately by Sheriff’s PIO via email. Interviews will be conducted thereafter in the order already received.

    Lisa Allen
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    https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Tra...75208905888590

    ETA: I think that this was the reason for the closed hearing today, at least in part.
    Last edited by M Joy; 05-14-2013 at 01:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Judge Stephens clamping down on media interviews
    altough I wish this had happened sooner....
    Moments ago, the Maricopa County Sheriff?s Office received an order from the Superior Court of Arizona and Honorable Judge Sherry Stephens that from today, prohibits Sheriff?s Office officials from approaching defendant Jodi Arias for the purposes of media interview requests.

    We will not attempt to contact Arias for purposes of media interviews until that order is lifted by the court.

    Once the court lifts the order, and if inmate Arias agrees to do interviews, all interested media parties will be notified immediately by Sheriff?s PIO via email. Interviews will be conducted thereafter in the order already received.

    Lisa Allen
    Director
    MCSO Media Relations Unit

    https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Tra...75208905888590
    this is a hooray. a week too late, but yay.

    I think it is pretty sad that there even has to be a fucking court order for a DUH. but then most dumb stuff occurs after somebody dumb does stuff. (sigh)

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Judge Stephens clamping down on media interviews
    altough I wish this had happened sooner....
    Moments ago, the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office received an order from the Superior Court of Arizona and Honorable Judge Sherry Stephens that from today, prohibits Sheriff’s Office officials from approaching defendant Jodi Arias for the purposes of media interview requests.

    We will not attempt to contact Arias for purposes of media interviews until that order is lifted by the court.

    Once the court lifts the order, and if inmate Arias agrees to do interviews, all interested media parties will be notified immediately by Sheriff’s PIO via email. Interviews will be conducted thereafter in the order already received.

    Lisa Allen
    Director
    MCSO Media Relations Unit

    https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Tra...75208905888590
    She already got her message out anyways. This, IMO should have been done before the trial even started.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Too little too late

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    All right, I'm gonna have to bust out the 2012 AZ Revised Statutes, Title 13 Criminal Code here...

    Paraphrasing, 'If the defendant is convicted of first degree murder, the trier of fact (the jury) at the sentencing proceeding shall determine whether to impose a sentence of death. If the trier of fact determines the death penalty is not appropriate and the defendant was at least 18 years of age at the time of the offense, the court shall impose a sentence of natural life (LWOP.) If the defendant was under 18 years of age at the time of the offense the court shall determine whether to impose a sentence of life (with possibility of parole after 25 years) or natural life.'

    The only time parole is possible in M1 is if the convicted person was under 18 when the crime was committed.
    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    Good job! Thanks for the clarification. I didn't realize the second part only applied if under 18 years of age. Weird too because many Arizona attorneys on the radio, news?etc all say that it is possible (albeit unlikely) for her to get 25 years and then the chance at parole. Weird that they wouldn't know the stipulation you listed...
    Okay, I've gone back and re-read the statutes I quoted from and the language is dense and hard to read for a layperson but it looks like there are two possible (though unlikely) ways for her to get life, which means possible parole after 25 years:

    If the jury is unable to reach a unanimous verdict on either the aggravating circumstance or whether the DP is appropriate (in the penalty phase), they are dismissed and a new jury is impaneled. If the new jury is also unable to reach a unanimous verdict on either one (aggravating circumstance or whether DP is appropriate), the court (Judge) will then impose either life or natural life.

    Life=parole possible after 25 years
    Natural life=LWOP

    Here is the link to the statutes if anyone wants to try to figure it out...warning: it will give you a headache.

    http://law.justia.com/codes/arizona/...-752;version2/

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Okay, I've gone back and re-read the statutes I quoted from and the language is dense and hard to read for a layperson but it looks like there are two possible (though unlikely) ways for her to get life, which means possible parole after 25 years:

    If the jury is unable to reach a unanimous verdict on either the aggravating circumstance or whether the DP is appropriate (in the penalty phase), they are dismissed and a new jury is impaneled. If the new jury is also unable to reach a unanimous verdict on either one (aggravating circumstance or whether DP is appropriate), the court (Judge) will then impose either life or natural life.

    Life=parole possible after 25 years
    Natural life=LWOP

    Here is the link to the statutes if anyone wants to try to figure it out...warning: it will give you a headache.

    http://law.justia.com/codes/arizona/...-752;version2/
    That’s too funny, I JUST got the same information and then I open up this and there you have it all written out! So apparently the jury only has two choices – death or LWOP - (glory, glory hallelujah!) and the odds of it happening where the judge gives her just “life” is unlikely. I highly doubt we would go through multiple juries. Honestly, I think this jury will decide her sentencing and be done with it. I won’t be surprised if they do choose death for her – the cruelty factor is just far too high not to warrant it by the law.


    Also – About flipping time the court makes Stabby shut up! They probably underestimated her need for attention and didn’t think she would jump in front of a camera so quickly. I wonder if both the defense and the prosecutor wanted that order – her attorneys didn’t seem so happy about the interview, and every time she opens her mouth she just makes there job that much harder. Crazy woman!!

    QUESTION – I have heard it mentioned that in the sentencing phase the judge actually gets to make a recommendation to the jury? Or at least tell the jury her thoughts on the case and the defendant. Is that true?? Stephens has to essential play the “silent headpiece” right now, but I would so love to hear her take on things!

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    @BethKaras Apparently there's a closed hearing happening or about to. I saw Steven and Samantha Alexander enter the courthouse. Shortly after, the defense's mitigation specialist arrived carrying clothes on a hanger. I'm now outside the courtroom. It's locked. Flores just arrived. #jodiarias

    @BethKaras1m
    Martinez is here. He just re-entered the witness room. #Jodiarias
    Quote Originally Posted by marshmallow View Post
    there wasn't one scheduled was there? could it have anything to do with the latest motion filed?
    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    I hope she reacts the way this judge did and demands that the convicted killer show up in court and FACE her victims and listen to what they have to say. No hair curtains, no doodling. She does seem to be terrified of actually having to face them. Much more cowardly without her knife and gun in hand.

    http://www.nj.com/sussex-county/inde...ms_family.html
    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    @JodiAriasGUILTY 1m

    Travis' brother, sister, Juan & Flores are all in court. Also employees of the sheriff's department.

    Could all these family members going in the courthouse today (other than the hearing) mean that they DO have to record their statements for the hearing tomorrow? per Jodi's motion? The fact that it's mostly prosecution kind of makes me think they might.

    Oh please someone say Stabby has to man-up and face Travis' family face to face IN PERSON after all she has put them through, hard as it will be for them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    That?s too funny, I JUST got the same information and then I open up this and there you have it all written out! So apparently the jury only has two choices ? death or LWOP - (glory, glory hallelujah!) and the odds of it happening where the judge gives her just ?life? is unlikely. I highly doubt we would go through multiple juries. Honestly, I think this jury will decide her sentencing and be done with it. I won?t be surprised if they do choose death for her ? the cruelty factor is just far too high not to warrant it by the law.


    Also ? About flipping time the court makes Stabby shut up! They probably underestimated her need for attention and didn?t think she would jump in front of a camera so quickly. I wonder if both the defense and the prosecutor wanted that order ? her attorneys didn?t seem so happy about the interview, and every time she opens her mouth she just makes there job that much harder. Crazy woman!!

    QUESTION ? I have heard it mentioned that in the sentencing phase the judge actually gets to make a recommendation to the jury? Or at least tell the jury her thoughts on the case and the defendant. Is that true?? Stephens has to essential play the ?silent headpiece? right now, but I would so love to hear her take on things!


    Now I am confused, because I heard if the jury votes LWOP, then the judge can give her 25 and up or life in prison. Well, I guess we'll find out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Badboobee View Post
    Ugh - apparently can't quote yet either. Anyway, thanks faq. This motion is dated May 8 so I don't know if it has been discussed here or not yet. If it has I apologize.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nestlequikie View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mochachino View Post
    Could all these family members going in the courthouse today (other than the hearing) mean that they DO have to record their statements for the hearing tomorrow? per Jodi's motion? The fact that it's mostly prosecution kind of makes me think they might.

    Oh please someone say Stabby has to man-up and face Travis' family face to face IN PERSON after all she has put them through, hard as it will be for them?
    Tomorrow is the aggravation phase, determining through testimony (plus openings and closings), whether or not JA acted with "extreme cruelty," qualifying her for the death penalty. The family will not be giving their statements tomorrow. That comes in the mitigation phase, providing the jury's verdict is that extreme cruelty was put upon Travis. It is then that the family will have their opportunity to offer up their impact statements. As yet we have yet to learn what the judge has decided re: if she will or will not allow those statements to be given "live," in court, or by videotape, if the DT will be provided written copies of their statements prior to presentation. We can only hope that the judge does the right thing...."LIVE!"
    "I'm not talking about a person, I'm talking about the defendant." JM

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    Quote Originally Posted by deanna1247 View Post
    Now I am confused, because I heard if the jury votes LWOP, then the judge can give her 25 and up or life in prison. Well, I guess we'll find out.
    The jury doesn't vote LWOP. They will deliberate first whether the aggravating circumstance of cruelty has been proven by the state and they must be unanimous one way or the other. If they are unanimous that cruelty was proven we move on to the penalty phase, if unanimous that cruelty was not proven the judge will impose LWOP (since Jodi was over 18 when she committed the crime.) If they are unable to reach a unanimous decision they will be dismissed and a new jury impaneled. If that jury is unable to reach a unanimous decision the judge has a choice to impose LWOP or life w/possibility of parole after 25 years.

    If the jury is unanimous that cruelty was proven we move on to the penalty phase where both sides will present evidence as to whether she should or should not be shown leniency. After hearing both sides the jury will deliberate to determine whether the DP is appropriate and again they must be unanimous. If they are unanimous the DP is appropriate that's what she gets, if unanimous the DP is not appropriate she gets LWOP. If they are unable to reach a unanimous verdict they are dismissed and a new jury impaneled, if that jury is unable to reach a unanimous decision the judge has the choice to impose LWOP or life w/possible parole after 25 years.

    So says the AZ Title 13 Criminal Code, at least as far as I have been able to make out after many readings...

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