Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[sheesh]

I must humbly disagree. You are seeing her top note, not the core of her personality. Psychopaths are extremely charming, you would like her. She isnt impulsive, she plans. Even her voice mail to the fox reporter shows she plans ahead and for more than one eventuality. If this was her diagnosis she would have killed travis in a impulsive heat of passion in April when she began to despise him. I can't understand why the thread can not see how much she hates, absolutely loathes Travis and by extension his siblings. She continues to justify her actions by saying Travis abused her and was a hypocrite. She will be singing that song until the day she dies. The core of her personality is BPD with antisocial characteristics when under stress. And yes, I know you disagree with me...

And this is what DeMarte diagnosed her as, and she actually tested & interviewed Arias. Without the BPD she would not attract men like Travis. The BPD fuels the sexual manipulation. No "trivial" sex life. Direct opposite of "uninviting" behavior -- she was a man trap!

Now when things didn't work out the way she planned, and her personhood was called into question/exposed/threatened to be outed ..... then her sociopathic traits allowed for the murder solution. But only to protect the Borderline. If she was purely sociopathic she would have had a history of constant trouble -- and she would kill "just to see what it felt like."

You know, I have zero interest in these vapid 3rd party wannabes attaching themselves to the trial like sucker fish in hopes of grabbing a piece of the spotlight. They don't bring anything to the table.

[I doubt it]

Makes me question, how does she email that from jail? They dont have internet access in jail. I read on the Sheriff's site, he only lets them have post cards on incoming mail. : ) What an idea! Saves the county a ton of money, cut staff needed, cut contraband coming in, therefore cut in jail violence etc. He can really be an ass in some ways, but is a real Einstein (haha) when it comes to managing those jails.

Guess the internet screwed it up. Jodi wrote a letter to the head of PPL. Dr. Drew received a copy of the letter by email.

Internet? You must be confused or didn't follow the dialog.
The OP elamir was who I was replying to said sounded clear to me .. "Dr. Drew On Call ".

Not confused at all. I followed the dialog. I watched Dr. Drew. There is no restriction on outgoing letters from jail. Perhaps you jumped to an incorrect conclusion or you are confused.

Maybe you should try the internet :)
elamir got it right, Drew shows an EMAIL from her gmail account

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/05/1...hilling-e-mail

Once again, i watched the show. You cant be right all the time, can you?

You are really having a bad day, sorry.
I never said there were restrictions on outgoing mail. In fact, I didn't saying anything out Outgoing mail at all.

Drew he opens the show with
"we've been provided exclusively with an email sent by Jodi ....

It's his show that provided me the proof I gave you of an EMAIL

How juvenile geesh get over it. It wasn't mine to be right silly.
elamir was the one that brought it here for us. elamir was the one that was right, get it.

Metis was responding to the bolded post above. Why did you have to make such a deal over it? Don't you realize what you're typing, or is your little brother sneaking on the computer behind your back?

[Bellaboo]

I don't disagree with your entire statement. I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist, so I'll leave the diagnosis to the professionals. I sent you a link to what I believe characterizes her behavior. I agree with the assertion that Jodi loathes Travis, and now, his siblings as an extension. She seethes with anger in the post verdict interview. It's pretty scary.

I too see her hatred and contempt for Travis and his family. Minutes after hearing the jury's verdict which in effect repudiated her outrageous claims of abuse, she continued her lies about Travis and took shots at the family's choosing to remember him falsely (in her view). I believe as Metis said she will be telling this tale until she dies.

Juan Martinez said it succinctly....... even in death she will not let him rest in peace.

[Brillig]

It's like the jury told her and her lies to get the hell out...and she just took her lies with her into the kitchen and is sitting there as if nothing happened.

That sums it up very well. Just like that incident at the Hughes house. She can't or won't acknowledge clear social cues that indicate she is disliked or not believed.

For all the Katie Wick lovers/haters

http://www.timespublications.com/may13-feature1.asp

Perfect pic!

Alyce LaViolette...

Evil Tale Acolyte

Interesting.

[Bellaboo]

I just want to wish all of the moms, step moms, grandmoms, pet moms, foster moms and dads who are moms a Happy Mothers Day! I am off to my daughter's and will take a break from this case. Have a good weekend MDSers.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Heres the dateline segment from today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z64ejrIqSQw

At the end, at 39:23 the look she gives as she flaunts herself is a peek at the real her.

Awwww, hell no!

Katie Wick on Dateline?

I said the same thing but, jmo, Dateline didn't do her any favors. Wonder how much she paid for her fake boobs? she packs some junk in her trunk too just even the weight load so she doesn't fall over

For those wondering, if Travis' family are successful in their case for wrongful death, Arias' commissary account will be seized and then turned over to the family as restitution. This info came from KCL via the victims advocate.

Excellent news providing there is anything left in the account by the time the suit is filed and a judgment rendered

20/20 playing a segment on Stabby as well.
Quite good.

20/20 actually did a pretty good crime scene recreation but they still fucked up where she said she grabbed the gun from.

(Not that it matters, since we know it was a lie)

Once again, the balls on this crazy bitch!!

Email sent to PPL by Arias

Dr. Drew On Call was provided exclusively with an e-mail sent by Jodi Arias on Sept. 1, 2008 to a leader at Travis Alexander's employer Pre-Paid Legal.

I am writing this letter in regards to Travis Alexander, whose life was taken last June. He was a good friend of mine. Am also, at present, in custody as I am being charged with his murder.

I am not writing this solely to plead my own innocence. That goes without saying -- as Travis meant the world to me and I would never harm him.

It is my understanding that his memory will be honored and recognized in Las Vegas this September. I would humbly remind those who say any different -- that I am innocent until proven guilty.

It is with a spirit of humility that I would ask that if I am in any way referenced during Travis' memorial at the team breakout, that my implied innocence is taken into account.

With humble gratitude,

Jodi Ann Arias

The screen shot of the email clearly shows it was sent to PPL from her email address in Sept 2008. It could be that someone with access to her account sent it on her behalf at her request.

You know, I have zero interest in these vapid 3rd party wannabes attaching themselves to the trial like sucker fish in hopes of grabbing a piece of the spotlight. They don't bring anything to the table.

I think of Katie Wick as the TA supporter's version of Donavan Bering She's clearly hoping to leverage all the attention she's getting into a tv gig.

I had a look at her blog, full of wing nut conspiracy theories and hate. In reality she's just your average wing nut Tea Party member .

I just want to wish all of the moms, step moms, grandmoms, pet moms, foster moms and dads who are moms a Happy Mothers Day! I am off to my daughter's and will take a break from this case. Have a good weekend MDSers.

^ I second that emotion.

[gigiann]

WT was just calling for a boycott of the media who dares to give Jodi a minute of airtime since the verdict was reached. She professed to be caught up in the post-verdict interviews, requesting everyone to stop the unbridled comments on Jodi anymore with demands for people to insist the press stop their covering Jodi. Really?? ummmm It's called Freedom of the Press/Freedom of Speech. We all have the right to take it or leave it, right? People (especially me) want to hear more about this trial. I WANT to hear both sides of it all. It is up to me to filter the information and process it using MY OWN mind. When I tire of it, I will let it go. But in my own time. Not because a message board poster obviously obsessed as much as I am in the case tells me it is time to stop and demand others take up her cause to refuse to listen. WT knows where the off switches are on her TV and computer. Use them without telling me how I should proceed in following/not following this case. I have learned a lot watching Jodi et al in this case and will continue to take the information on human psyche (for one) as part of my knowledge base from learning the details of this case.

[I doubt it]

That alone, points to the fact she is mentally ill. She does not get it. I think she has much more then BPD. She knows what she is doing but c'mon, who ever heard of giving an interview BEFORE the sentencing phase,where she could very likely get the death penalty? I think whoever allowed her to do the interview is an ass. Sheriff Joe? Very wrong, for many reasons.

I disagree. I don't think she's mentally ill. I think her personality is just wired wrong. I also have no problem that she did the interview. I wish she'd blab her fool head off before the next phase of the trial. Just more to use against her. The only problem I have with the interview was the sucky questions. If you get one shot at an interview, make it count. Troy or whatever the hell his name is, was no Walter Cronkite.

Troy is just a local news reporter. Jodi deliberately set up that interview for the brief window of time when she could get it done. (Before she got back to jail.) She used him for some purpose only she knows inside her head. You need to read or hear his comments to Greta about the interview to really get it all. He says he gave her several opportunities to show remorse, but she just wouldn't do it.
Sheriff Joe had a press conference scheduled for the same time, but he cancelled it. Some people say he let Jodi fall into her own trap, because he immediately put her on suicide watch after that.

Time will tell the overall effect of the interview. The truth is, the local reporter did so much more with Jodi than all the talking heads on HLN put together. What ever happened to investigative reporting?

[Jillee]

I agree, hell put her back on again! She just keeps digging herself deeper holes. Always trying to work an angle and the train passes her by .. bye bye Ja, any antic she pulls now can't fix it, its over, curtains, the important vote is in.

I too agree with this. I don't think it's about Sheriff Joe being fooled by Jodi. I think this is Sheriff Joe letting Jodi dig herself deeper and deeper. Juan and Joe know that she'll never admit anything and will keep lying. Plus all of this "I'd rather get death" crap can be used to help her get the DP. It will lessen the guilt any juror might feel about giving her the DP.

That sums it up very well. Just like that incident at the Hughes house. She can't or won't acknowledge clear social cues that indicate she is disliked or not believed.

(sfs) ^^This. Her obsession over-rides any social cues on all levels. Jodi doesn't let little things like being "socially acceptable" ruin a good obsession fest. Nobody is going to crap in her mental punch bowel... except Jodi herself. And even then she doesn't mind.

I totally see the hatred towards Travis and his family. It's why she refuses to express remorse for what she did (aside from remorse that she's missing out on things because she was caught). She believes he had it coming. And it's why she will continue to do anything she can to take away from the family any sense of justice--i.e. having her attorneys object to the ribbons they were wearing, or trying to force the victim impact statements be videotaped.

I think now that she's been convicted, all of these demands will be nipped in the bud. I'm sure, just the idea of having to show up in court wearing her prison stripes was enough to make her flip out. I personally can't wait to see her in her prison garb when she's sitting in court. I think they keep the handcuffs on her too, right? I hope they do. She's a violent felon now. She needs to be treated like one.

Sneakers- fake boobs probably cost her $3,000. That's the lower end price of the boob scale. I think Martinez accidentally said $300. She probably had them done above the chest muscle, not behind. The surgeries that are behind the muscle are more expensive. (please don't ask me how I know these things!)

[lorizfree]

I too see her hatred and contempt for Travis and his family. Minutes after hearing the jury's verdict which in effect repudiated her outrageous claims of abuse, she continued her lies about Travis and took shots at the family's choosing to remember him falsely (in her view). I believe as Metis said she will be telling this tale until she dies.

Juan Martinez said it succinctly....... even in death she will not let him rest in peace.

Slamming Travis and his family, seems to have been a previously planned strike. I bet she's been fuming ever since her plea deal was denied. She's been waiting for the day to bask in the "I'm going to tell everyone what a piece of shit Travis was, if you don't give me my plea deal" glory. The jury, Juan, and the Alexanders completely ruined everything, when she got 1st degree. She knew that if the got 2nd or less, her blackmail attempts would have been a win for her. She was quite obviously pissed off that she got 1st degree, and wanted to stick it to Travis and the Alexanders one last time. The question I have is if this was all plotted out, did she think about the possible consequences to her case, when that interview is played back to the jury?

[smurfy]

Slamming Travis and his family, seems to have been a previously planned strike. I bet she's been fuming ever since her plea deal was denied. She's been waiting for the day to bask in the "I'm going to tell everyone what a piece of shit Travis was, if you don't give me my plea deal" glory. The jury, Juan, and the Alexanders completely ruined everything, when she got 1st degree. She knew that if the got 2nd or less, her blackmail attempts would have been a win for her. She was quite obviously pissed off that she got 1st degree, and wanted to stick it to Travis and the Alexanders one last time. The question I have is if this was all plotted out, did she think about the possible consequences to her case, when that interview is played back to the jury?

I think she figured it would be played for them, thats why she said she wanted death. Thinking they wont give her what she "wants" they will settle with LWOP. Staying alive and in a system that she can control would be fine with her. Imo.

[TheRudeDog]

Whoa! The previous comment about arias' inability "to acknowledge clear social cues ... " regarding her completely inappropriate behavior in social situations is what's been going around in my head but I haven't been able to express it properly. I believe that it's those "social cues" (and proper raising) that keep many of us from behaving like idiots in the first place -- and thank goodness for social cues and proper raising! Some of the stories I've seen/heard about her make me shake my head at the brazenness of her actions & what appears to be her 100% cluelessness regarding what's OK in a social situation & what's not. Except that I think she very well may be aware that her actions aren't appropriate but she just doesn't care. That's what, I think, keep most of us in-check: We care on one level or another. Arias, not so much.

And, speaking of "caring," (not that anyone here should!) I'm finding that, since the verdict, I'm less & less interested in what's going on with her whole mess with every passing day. I think I just wanted to watch her when she heard the M1 verdict; now I'm a pretty satisfied person.

[I doubt it]

She specifically planned it for a M1 verdict. I can't imagine what she hoped to gain by it.

Like all her other plans Karma's a b_tch!

[lorizfree]

I think she figured it would be played for them, thats why she said she wanted death. Thinking they wont give her what she "wants" they will settle with LWOP. Staying alive and in a system that she can control would be fine with her. Imo.

I agree. I hope she gets the death penalty for at least 10 years, to suffer the treatment in that environment. After that, I'd be ok if they they reduce it to LWOP.

[Poppycock]

oy

[lorizfree]

I got my copy autographed! Not really, but it did come in the Arizona Republic, it was an insert called The Times, which must be something new. Why do people hate on KW and not the other juror Stacy, who is just as much of a publicity hound but not quite as photogenic, so doesn't get as much attention? And very stuck up, won't even say hi. The 21 yr. old 'pool boy' is Stacy's nephew that she brings along. I know nothing about KW other than seeing her the 4 times I was there and on Dr. Drew. She was as nice as could be to everyone. Isn't everyone here a true crime junkie in this case, so why hate her for that?

I wonder how she supports herself???

[MadameX]

Troy is just a local news reporter. Jodi deliberately set up that interview for the brief window of time when she could get it done. (Before she got back to jail.) She used him for some purpose only she knows inside her head. You need to read or hear his comments to Greta about the interview to really get it all. He says he gave her several opportunities to show remorse, but she just wouldn't do it.
Sheriff Joe had a press conference scheduled for the same time, but he cancelled it. Some people say he let Jodi fall into her own trap, because he immediately put her on suicide watch after that.

Time will tell the overall effect of the interview. The truth is, the local reporter did so much more with Jodi than all the talking heads on HLN put together. What ever happened to investigative reporting?

I think Troy is getting a bad rap over this whole thing. He's not a bad guy and I've always liked his reporting.

Do I think Jodi manipulated him to a degree? Yeah, I kinda do. But he isn't speaking out on her behalf or really supporting her in any way. He gave her a venue, but if he hadn't done it, somebody else would have. I'm not gonna fault the guy for trying to further his career over this.

Bottom line is, he knows she's guilty. I give him credit for being in the media and trying to present this case in a somewhat neutral manner. It's not easy to do with something as one-sided as this...

I personally hate opinionated media, no matter what side they're on (and not just on this issue).

[olgasbunghole]

I must humbly disagree. You are seeing her top note, not the core of her personality. Psychopaths are extremely charming, you would like her. She isnt impulsive, she plans. Even her voice mail to the fox reporter shows she plans ahead and for more than one eventuality. If this was her diagnosis she would have killed travis in a impulsive heat of passion in April when she began to despise him. I can't understand why the thread can not see how much she hates, absolutely loathes Travis and by extension his siblings. She continues to justify her actions by saying Travis abused her and was a hypocrite. She will be singing that song until the day she dies. The core of her personality is BPD with antisocial characteristics when under stress. And yes, I know you disagree with me...

Hey, we're all entitled to our own opinions................ I would love to know what stabby was like when you spent all of that time with her during your evaluation of her. and you are so beyond wrong in saying that I would like her! your nuts!
I have more experience with psychopaths than you are obviously aware of........ I have no doubts that she has more going on besides being a psychopath but that is the part that she is showing us loud and clear...... and just for shits and giggles..... she is also impulsive, I don't know how you haven't seen any evidence of that in her past.

[Poppycock]

ot

[olgasbunghole]

Metis was responding to the bolded post above. Why did you have to make such a deal over it? Don't you realize what you're typing, or is your little brother sneaking on the computer behind your back?

REALLY!? "DO YOU HAVE A DOG IN THIS FIGHT?!"

[lorizfree]

I think Troy is getting a bad rap over this whole thing. He's not a bad guy and I've always liked his reporting.

Do I think Jodi manipulated him to a degree? Yeah, I kinda do. But he isn't speaking out on her behalf or really supporting her in any way. He gave her a venue, but if he hadn't done it, somebody else would have. I'm not gonna fault the guy for trying to further his career over this.

Bottom line is, he knows she's guilty. I give him credit for being in the media and trying to present this case in a somewhat neutral manner. It's not easy to do with something as one-sided as this...

I personally hate opinionated media, no matter what side they're on (and not just on this issue).

I think ANY reporter would have jumped on this if offered. Troy may have been throwing some softballs, but Jodi was throwing some hard balls back at him. And who gives a 45 minute interview, 20 minutes after their M1 verdict had been handed down? I think that would be the very last thing on my mind at that moment. I trip so hard on how 'composed' she was. The lack of tears, even for herself floors me.

[olgasbunghole]

fascinating! thanks I've always said I think she is a psychopath. And suspect she's a serial killer that just happened to screw up early. Have they checked her mother's property yet? lol half kidding. I can't remember for sure but think it might have been Ressler (FBI profiler) that knew of some MRI study and then said it turned out his own brain had the features too. Now this is down to fMRI, amazing they might one day actually be able to show a scientific base after all.
But this is fMRI fine tuning it. Amazing to think they may one day get it down to science huh.

It is amazing & fascinating stuff for sure! I think you may be right about Ressler too........ there are quite a few comments at the end of that article and someone made reference to him & the fMRI.

[lorizfree]

I asked her if she was on payroll with hln, she said no. I also asked if she would have a job with them later, she said no. One theory of mine is alimony. She said back in January that she had just gotten out of an abusive marriage.

That would make sense. Maybe she has a sugar daddy

[Wishmich]

I got my copy autographed! Not really, but it did come in the Arizona Republic, it was an insert called The Times, which must be something new. Why do people hate on KW and not the other juror Stacy, who is just as much of a publicity hound but not quite as photogenic, so doesn't get as much attention? And very stuck up, won't even say hi. The 21 yr. old 'pool boy' is Stacy's nephew that she brings along. I know nothing about KW other than seeing her the 4 times I was there and on Dr. Drew. She was as nice as could be to everyone. Isn't everyone here a true crime junkie in this case, so why hate her for that?

I always wondered that, too. She's doing what we wish we all could be doing! I don't think of her as a celebrity that I'd want an autograph from, but she seems nice and as interested in this case as I am. I think it could be a fun conversation.

[TMY1]

Once again, i watched the show. You cant be right all the time, can you?

That chimp needs to go back to smoking!