Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[Metis212]

IMO STABBY IS THIS: The study of the psychopath reveals an individual who is incapable of feeling guilt, remorse or empathy for their actions. They are generally cunning, manipulative and know the difference between right and wrong but dismiss it as applying to them. They are incapable of normal emotions such as love, generally react without considering the consequences of their actions and show extreme egocentric and narcissistic behavior.

*Common Characteristics Among Psychopaths: Superficial charm and average intelligence. Untruthfulness and insincerity. Lack of remorse or shame. Pathological egocentricity and incapacity to love. Suicide threats rarely carried out. Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated. Failure to follow any life plan. Fantastic and uninviting behavior. (there are more commonalities, I just clipped the obvious)

*Because of their inability to gauge when their actions are being perceived as dishonest, deceitful or dangerous, they also fail to accept that there are consequences for their actions. They always maintain a belief that they can outwit those who pursue them and that they will never be caught. Once caught, they believe they will find a way back out.

*Most studies indicate that there are no conventional methods available which cures psychopathic behavior. On the contrary, when conventional methods have been used, the psychopath becomes empowered, and reacts by improving their cunning, manipulative methods and their ability to conceal their true personality, even from trained eyes.

Dangerous minds: new research unravels the brains of psychopaths:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/25/42...of-psychopaths

I must humbly disagree. You are seeing her top note, not the core of her personality. Psychopaths are extremely charming, you would like her. She isnt impulsive, she plans. Even her voice mail to the fox reporter shows she plans ahead and for more than one eventuality. If this was her diagnosis she would have killed travis in a impulsive heat of passion in April when she began to despise him. I can't understand why the thread can not see how much she hates, absolutely loathes Travis and by extension his siblings. She continues to justify her actions by saying Travis abused her and was a hypocrite. She will be singing that song until the day she dies. The core of her personality is BPD with antisocial characteristics when under stress. And yes, I know you disagree with me...

[Metis212]

Makes me question, how does she email that from jail? They dont have internet access in jail.
I read on the Sheriff's site, he only lets them have post cards on incoming mail. : ) What an idea! Saves the county a ton of money, cut staff needed, cut contraband coming in, therefore cut in jail violence etc. He can really be an ass in some ways, but is a real Einstein (haha) when it comes to managing those jails.

Guess the internet screwed it up. Jodi wrote a letter to the head of PPL. Dr. Drew received a copy of the letter by email.

[Cara]

To take the words from our favorite prosecutor..........WHO DOES THAT?
To the ladies in here. Do you find it a bit odd that Jodi remained "friends" with all these old boyfriends? She kept referring to Travis as her good friend after their breakup. And continued to have booty calls with him. Was she having booty calls with Bobby, Matt, & Daryl too? I would guess, yes. She goes on this trip and stops to visit all of them. Not one mention of stopping to see a girlfriend. I do not trust women who don't have girlfriends. She had quite an itinerary for that trip....Matt, Daryl, Travis and Ryan. Hmmmm no plan to stop and see her dear friend Rachel? She is a whack

I have remained friends with most of my former lovers/boyfriends. The one who broke my heart the worst is actually the closest friend of them all at this point. I don't think it is weird for me anyway. I think if you loved someone at one time, why not remember that love and friendship after the spark is gone? I am one of those girls who had way more guy friends than girlfriends, but I think I was catty about other women when I was younger. I see alot of younger me in Jodi and the shitty way I used to think.

Fortunately I grew up and realized two things, I am not a special and unique snowflake, and everything my mother said was right.

I would give anything to have a close female confidant now, all my girlfriends live in Vegas and I never get to see them.

Jodi Arias Lifetime movie shoots courtroom scenes only TWO days after verdict ... while former waitress remains on suicide watch

I like that they aren't toting her in this article as a photographer. She was a waitress, not that there's anything wrong with that. (Seinfeld emoticon)

Awwww, hell no!

Katie Wick on Dateline?

I know right? The makeup artist in me was screaming for a smudge brush for her eyeshadow.

Once again, the balls on this crazy bitch!!

Email sent to PPL by Arias

Dr. Drew On Call was provided exclusively with an e-mail sent by Jodi Arias on Sept. 1, 2008 to a leader at Travis Alexander's employer Pre-Paid Legal.

I am writing this letter in regards to Travis Alexander, whose life was taken last June. He was a good friend of mine. Am also, at present, in custody as I am being charged with his murder.

I am not writing this solely to plead my own innocence. That goes without saying -- as Travis meant the world to me and I would never harm him.

It is my understanding that his memory will be honored and recognized in Las Vegas this September. I would humbly remind those who say any different -- that I am innocent until proven guilty.

It is with a spirit of humility that I would ask that if I am in any way referenced during Travis' memorial at the team breakout, that my implied innocence is taken into account.

With humble gratitude,

Jodi Ann Arias

Yep. Humility. Got it.

Also, heres the 20/20 segment from today

Thank you, I'll try watching this because I was NOT impressed by the Dateline special. Again the focus was on Arias, and not much at all about Travis. Oh wait, they did manage to point out he was obsessed with how "sexy" she was and he was leading a double life. Yup, that's about it. I was in full eyeroll mode watching that crap. And by the way, the title? IMO it was a dig at all he attention given to the case by the public. Like we are all SO obsessed with Arias. Bitch, please.

I said a few times, he wasn't anyone I would like to hang around much in real life. But, just because "I" wouldnt hang in his circle doesn't mean shit, I'd support his right to live, not be slaughtered and robbed of his chance at life however he wanted to live it. We are all sinners so it is easy for me to seperate his from law. Ive never been one to think any life is more or less valuable than the next. A prostitute's killer or a minister's killer, all the same to me .. if you take a life, you should lose yours is my personal feeling. There are a lot crimes, but taking a life is the one that is permanent, they can't undo to make any amends. I'm not a strong advocate for the DP or against it, but when it is so clear cut, confession, I do believe it is a just penalty.
I disagree about remembering though. For those of us that don't know them, I think one day the family will fade as will a lot of the 'facts' of this case. Give it a decade and people will be saying remember, 'I forget' what or who .. about something in this sad tale. Heck, we already here some of that. Just too much to remember.

At first glance I didn't like Travis and it was just from looking at his pictures. He reminds me so much of my friend Matt, we call him Red Matt because he is a ginger and one of three or four Matts in the circle.

Red Matt is a total playboy, very athletic (he boxes), muscular, handsome, witty and well-spoken. He comes off as arrogant and I also didn't like him at first. But underneath the surface of his womanizing ways I later learned an ex-girlfriend of his was brutally murdered and it pretty much scarred him when it came to women. He had a hard time getting close to them after that, maybe for fear he might lose them in such a horrific way.

Turns out Red Matt is an amazing man with deep thoughts, a strong love for his friends and family and always there for you if you had one too many and need a ride home. His stripper dating, cocky asshole act is pretty good, but doesn't hold up to his friends.

[Metis212]

For all the Katie Wick lovers/haters

http://www.timespublications.com/may13-feature1.asp


Confessions of True Crime Junkies: Jodi Arias trial groupies have murder on the mind.

In addition to being The Valley Times executive editor, Shanna Hogan is a true-crime author who is writing a book on the Jodi Arias case. While reporting the story, she discovered an interesting phenomenon taking place at the courthouse—trial watchers consumed with real life murder mysteries. These are their stories.

Each morning before dawn breaks, Katie Wick waits hours outside the Maricopa County Superior courthouse, standing in line with a few dozen other spectators.

When the doors open at 7:30 a.m., the crowd files inside and navigates through a maze of X-ray machines, metal detectors and security guards.

Taking the elevator to the fifth floor, Wick and the others race toward the four empty rows of chairs at the end of the room, securing a spot inside the courtroom for a chance to witness the Jodi Arias trial.

For the past few weeks, this has been routine for Wick, a 27-year-old Glendale woman, who has rarely missed a day of the proceedings.

“It’s first come, first serve. So when we get off the elevator, people run to get a seat,” says Wick. “It’s getting a lot more chaotic. People are fighting over seats, cutting in line. It’s a circus, so much drama.”

As the trial for the 32-year-old murder defendant accused of slaughtering her ex-boyfriend has developed into an international media sensation, the scene outside the courtroom has become a spectacle in its own right.

Self-described “obsessed,” trial watchers wait in line for hours for one of the 23 coveted seats open to the public, hoping to get a glimpse of the prosecutor they’ve come to love and the defendant they’ve grown to despise.

When court is not in session, the entertainment continues online with followers taking to Twitter, Facebook pages, trial websites and message boards to dissect each gruesome detail.

Those obsessed with this case and other such crimes admit it’s a macabre fascination—the attraction to serial killers, trials, forensics and cold-blooded murder. They call themselves trial watchers, crime addicts, forensic-philes, and true-crime junkies, and for them the Jodi Arias case is just the latest in a string of high-profile murder mysteries to capture their attention.

Yet, for Arizona’s crime junkies, the trial has been a rare opportunity—a media phenomenon occurring right at home—one that has evolved into a ghoulish guilty gratification.

“It’s like a drama,” Wick says. “It’s crazy. I feel it’s so consuming. Even on the weekends I think about it. It’s always in your head.” .........................

[TheHamburglar]

Jodi Ann Arias can be scrambled to say,

Arias Do Ninja - Just too Wierd
Is a Road Ninja - Just too wierd
ID as a Ninja or - Still weird
Or Aid as Ninja - weird
Adjoin as I Ran - Wow, adjoined closet she lied about running into!

Was just bored

[Cara]

Well...I just...yea

Blog by Katie Wick

The Casey Anthony Trial: Why Child Homicide and Abortion Are Equals

http://www.conservativecut.com/blog/?p=258

[TheHamburglar]

Alyce LaViolette...

Evil Tale Acolyte :surprised:

[wasthinking]

Guess the internet screwed it up. Jodi wrote a letter to the head of PPL. Dr. Drew received a copy of the letter by email.

Internet? You must be confused or didn't follow the dialog.
The OP elamir was who I was replying to said sounded clear to me .. "Dr. Drew On Call ".

[TheHamburglar]

Last one for Coconut

Travis Alexander re arranged...

Rear Exits Vandal

not being insensitive but anal was brought up all day in this trial

[Metis212]

Internet? You must be confused or didn't follow the dialog.
The OP elamir was who I was replying to said sounded clear to me .. "Dr. Drew On Call ".

Not confused at all. I followed the dialog. I watched Dr. Drew. There is no restriction on outgoing letters from jail. Perhaps you jumped to an incorrect conclusion or you are confused.

[wasthinking]

Not confused at all. I followed the dialog. Perhaps you are confused

Maybe you should try the internet :)
elamir got it right, Drew shows an EMAIL from her gmail account

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/05/1...hilling-e-mail

[Metis212]

Maybe you should try the internet :)
elamir got it right, Drew shows an EMAIL from her gmail account

http://www.hlntv.com/video/2013/05/1...hilling-e-mail

Once again, i watched the show. You cant be right all the time, can you?

[I doubt it]

I must humbly disagree. You are seeing her top note, not the core of her personality. Psychopaths are extremely charming, you would like her. She isnt impulsive, she plans. Even her voice mail to the fox reporter shows she plans ahead and for more than one eventuality. If this was her diagnosis she would have killed travis in a impulsive heat of passion in April when she began to despise him. I can't understand why the thread can not see how much she hates, absolutely loathes Travis and by extension his siblings. She continues to justify her actions by saying Travis abused her and was a hypocrite. She will be singing that song until the day she dies. The core of her personality is BPD with antisocial characteristics when under stress. And yes, I know you disagree with me...

Metis, from the age of 5, I lived alone with my depressed, alchoholic, widowed mother. Her verbal abuse became worse and worse over the years. I developed a "talent" for selective amnesia. If I choose to ignore something I find offensive, I can totally block it out. You say Jodi doesn't care what others say about her, I say it never goes through her hippocampus.

[gigiann]

IMO STABBY IS THIS: The study of the psychopath reveals an individual who is incapable of feeling guilt, remorse or empathy for their actions. They are generally cunning, manipulative and know the difference between right and wrong but dismiss it as applying to them. They are incapable of normal emotions such as love, generally react without considering the consequences of their actions and show extreme egocentric and narcissistic behavior.

*Common Characteristics Among Psychopaths: Superficial charm and average intelligence. Untruthfulness and insincerity. Lack of remorse or shame. Pathological egocentricity and incapacity to love. Suicide threats rarely carried out. Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated. Failure to follow any life plan. Fantastic and uninviting behavior. (there are more commonalities, I just clipped the obvious)

*Because of their inability to gauge when their actions are being perceived as dishonest, deceitful or dangerous, they also fail to accept that there are consequences for their actions. They always maintain a belief that they can outwit those who pursue them and that they will never be caught. Once caught, they believe they will find a way back out.

*Most studies indicate that there are no conventional methods available which cures psychopathic behavior. On the contrary, when conventional methods have been used, the psychopath becomes empowered, and reacts by improving their cunning, manipulative methods and their ability to conceal their true personality, even from trained eyes.

Dangerous minds: new research unravels the brains of psychopaths:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/25/42...of-psychopaths

Whoaaaa! Yup, that is dead on a description of what we see in Jodi. Good researching Olga. Did the experts poopoo the psychopath dx? They shouldn't have. Creepy....soooooooooo Jodi!

[wasthinking]

Not confused at all. I followed the dialog. I watched Dr. Drew. There is no restriction on outgoing letters from jail. Perhaps you jumped to an incorrect conclusion or you are confused.

You are really having a bad day, sorry.
I never said there were restrictions on outgoing mail. In fact, I didn't saying anything out Outgoing mail at all.

Makes me question, how does she email that from jail? They dont have internet access in jail.

[Metis212]

You are really having a bad day, sorry.
I never said there were restrictions on outgoing mail. In fact, I didn't saying anything out Outgoing mail at all.

Not having a bad day at all. No need to be sorry, you dont know me. Maybe you are having a bad day. Have you ever been wrong?

[wasthinking]

Once again, i watched the show. You cant be right all the time, can you?

Drew he opens the show with
"we've been provided exclusively with an email sent by Jodi ....

It's his show that provided me the proof I gave you of an EMAIL

[Metis212]

Drew he opens the show with
"we've been provided exclusively with an email sent by Jodi ....

It's his show that provided me the proof I gave you of an EMAIL

He went further in depth during the show. I understand your need to be right, so you may have it again, you are right.

[gigiann]

That alone, points to the fact she is mentally ill. She does not get it. I think she has much more then BPD. She knows what she is doing but c'mon, who ever heard of giving an interview BEFORE the sentencing phase,where she could very likely get the death penalty? I think whoever allowed her to do the interview is an ass. Sheriff Joe? Very wrong, for many reasons.

She was just found guilty of M1 and she sits there with no emotion. Olga's post sharing the psychopath characteristics is so perfect for Stabby. She sits there talking without any acknowledgement of the seriousness of what she has done. Still prattling on that if it weren't for Travis being a hypocrite, this never would have happened. If Travis was a good Morman, things might be different. That JM was a deceitful prosecutor and denied the evidence to be shown to vindicate her. Blah Blah, again it is everyone else's fault. Per JM....WHO DOES THAT?

[wasthinking]

IMO STABBY IS THIS: The study of the psychopath reveals an individual who is incapable of feeling guilt, remorse or empathy for their actions. They are generally cunning, manipulative and know the difference between right and wrong but dismiss it as applying to them. They are incapable of normal emotions such as love, generally react without considering the consequences of their actions and show extreme egocentric and narcissistic behavior.

*Common Characteristics Among Psychopaths: Superficial charm and average intelligence. Untruthfulness and insincerity. Lack of remorse or shame. Pathological egocentricity and incapacity to love. Suicide threats rarely carried out. Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated. Failure to follow any life plan. Fantastic and uninviting behavior. (there are more commonalities, I just clipped the obvious)

*Because of their inability to gauge when their actions are being perceived as dishonest, deceitful or dangerous, they also fail to accept that there are consequences for their actions. They always maintain a belief that they can outwit those who pursue them and that they will never be caught. Once caught, they believe they will find a way back out.

*Most studies indicate that there are no conventional methods available which cures psychopathic behavior. On the contrary, when conventional methods have been used, the psychopath becomes empowered, and reacts by improving their cunning, manipulative methods and their ability to conceal their true personality, even from trained eyes.

Dangerous minds: new research unravels the brains of psychopaths:
http://www.theverge.com/2013/4/25/42...of-psychopaths

fascinating! thanks I've always said I think she is a psychopath. And suspect she's a serial killer that just happened to screw up early. Have they checked her mother's property yet? lol half kidding. I can't remember for sure but think it might have been Ressler (FBI profiler) that knew of some MRI study and then said it turned out his own brain had the features too. Now this is down to fMRI, amazing they might one day actually be able to show a scientific base after all.
But this is fMRI fine tuning it. Amazing to think they may one day get it down to science huh.

[Wishmich]

That alone, points to the fact she is mentally ill. She does not get it. I think she has much more then BPD. She knows what she is doing but c'mon, who ever heard of giving an interview BEFORE the sentencing phase,where she could very likely get the death penalty? I think whoever allowed her to do the interview is an ass. Sheriff Joe? Very wrong, for many reasons.

I disagree. I don't think she's mentally ill. I think her personality is just wired wrong. I also have no problem that she did the interview. I wish she'd blab her fool head off before the next phase of the trial. Just more to use against her. The only problem I have with the interview was the sucky questions. If you get one shot at an interview, make it count. Troy or whatever the hell his name is, was no Walter Cronkite.

[wasthinking]

He went further in depth during the show. I understand your need to be right, so you may have it again, you are right.

How juvenile geesh get over it. It wasn't mine to be right silly.
elamir was the one that brought it here for us. elamir was the one that was right, get it.

[wasthinking]

I disagree. I don't think she's mentally ill. I think her personality is just wired wrong. I also have no problem that she did the interview. I wish she'd blab her fool head off before the next phase of the trial. Just more to use against her. The only problem I have with the interview was the sucky questions. If you get one shot at an interview, make it count. Troy or whatever the hell his name is, was no Walter Cronkite.

I agree, hell put her back on again! She just keeps digging herself deeper holes. Always trying to work an angle and the train passes her by .. bye bye Ja, any antic she pulls now can't fix it, its over, curtains, the important vote is in.

[MadameX]

I must humbly disagree. You are seeing her top note, not the core of her personality. Psychopaths are extremely charming, you would like her. She isnt impulsive, she plans. Even her voice mail to the fox reporter shows she plans ahead and for more than one eventuality. If this was her diagnosis she would have killed travis in a impulsive heat of passion in April when she began to despise him. I can't understand why the thread can not see how much she hates, absolutely loathes Travis and by extension his siblings. She continues to justify her actions by saying Travis abused her and was a hypocrite. She will be singing that song until the day she dies. The core of her personality is BPD with antisocial characteristics when under stress. And yes, I know you disagree with me...

I totally see the hatred towards Travis and his family. It's why she refuses to express remorse for what she did (aside from remorse that she's missing out on things because she was caught). She believes he had it coming. And it's why she will continue to do anything she can to take away from the family any sense of justice--i.e. having her attorneys object to the ribbons they were wearing, or trying to force the victim impact statements be videotaped.

[lorizfree]

I must humbly disagree. You are seeing her top note, not the core of her personality. Psychopaths are extremely charming, you would like her. She isnt impulsive, she plans. Even her voice mail to the fox reporter shows she plans ahead and for more than one eventuality. If this was her diagnosis she would have killed travis in a impulsive heat of passion in April when she began to despise him. I can't understand why the thread can not see how much she hates, absolutely loathes Travis and by extension his siblings. She continues to justify her actions by saying Travis abused her and was a hypocrite. She will be singing that song until the day she dies. The core of her personality is BPD with antisocial characteristics when under stress. And yes, I know you disagree with me...

I don't disagree with your entire statement. I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist, so I'll leave the diagnosis to the professionals. I sent you a link to what I believe characterizes her behavior. I agree with the assertion that Jodi loathes Travis, and now, his siblings as an extension. She seethes with anger in the post verdict interview. It's pretty scary.