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    Ah well, ALMOST one page of EXACTLY what this thread was intended for is better than none. So I'll make a small Australian contribution to the above conversation while I still can & offer you a link to an article on the Bowraville kids. There was a march to State Parliament in Sydney for them recently so they've been on my mind I guess.

    The reason I'm posting a link to their case here? They're literally Australia's poster kids for the argument Bowie & Ron were making. The recent march got about as much attention in the broader media as their murders did all those years ago. If 3 middle-class, or even dirt poor white kids had been abducted & murdered in the one little country town & the identity of the perpetrator was common knowledge? There would've been a media blitz. We saw it for Milat & the Granny Killer in NSW, the Truro murders in S.A, Leonard John Fraser's crimes in QLD, the Claremont murders in W.A, the Frankston Serial Killings in Vic & many, many more.
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    These murders occurred in the '90's. The victims were Colleen Walker, 16, last seen Sept 13, 1990, then under a month later, her 2yr old cousin Evelyn Greenup disappeared on Oct 4, 1990. Last was 16yr old Clinton Speedy-Duroux on Feb 1st, 1991. These were Aboriginal kids, & their families lived on or were associated with the local mission(closest comparison U.S-wise would be reservation land maybe? but it's a little different). The whole case was fucked up by the police from the start. No-one listened to the families pleading for help to find their kids. They were Aboriginal kids & the news at the time was full of pretty young missing backpackers. If white teenagers get written off as runaways? There's no hope for these kids.

    The "N" word's not real common here. We have the "B" word. So the initial police response to these desperate families would've been along the lines of "fuck me mate, it's just a coupla fucken B's. Hah, probably gone fucken walkabout mate". & a toddler missing from one of "these" families? "haha, they'd be too fucken drunk to know anyway, either the kids still there or they lost 'em months ago & only just noticed ! Fucken hilARious mate". There's a LOT to say about this case, it may yet get another media airing because even now people are lobbying to have it re-opened, but this obviously isn't the place to go into detail & I've gone completely off-topic for this thread, so here's the link -

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-2...urders/4653032


    Sorry for this HUGE addition to my edit, but what I wrote initially just couldn't give anyone the full picture, I will shush now.

    ETA I left out a really important detail - perpetrator's identity was known VERY early in the investigation - local white guy familiar with the local Aboriginal community. Aboriginal people pointing the finger at a white guy was never well-received, sometimes it was downright lethal, & at that particular time in our history, had a very special set of problems.

    Edit, ETA The Reconciliation debate was everywhere, the Stolen Generation were starting to have their story told in the tabloid media. My own family was split 3 of us/versus everyone else, over whether my favourite cousin, a part of my family since we were both 2, was a Stolen Generation kid. She was, unquestionably, but older female family members took issue & said it was a disgusting display of rudeness & ingratitude to say such a thing. How DARE she. Pointing out the thousands of reasons SHE was right caused all sorts of drama. Now some of these same people brag they know a Stolen Generation survivor. What a difference 2 decades make. Back on (this) topic though, at the time of the Bowraville disappearances, my favourite cuz had taken off to the same North Coast region to meet her real family. I was happy for her & scared at the same time.

    While these kids quietly went missing, in the media that should've been shining a light on the (non)police investigation, debate raged & large sections of white society argued their rigid belief that they were being held personally responsible for violence committed exclusively during our colonial past. Trying to remind these people that many of them were adults before Aborigines were even given the right to vote in '67 never ended pretty.

    If it was a slow news week, they'd throw in a story on the Aboriginal Tent Embassy (set up in protest, it stood for decades on the lawns outside Federal Parliament) & mention the word "genocide" a few times for good measure. ANY instance of fingerpointing, particularly at that time was seen as more "white-bashing" & an attempt to scam some kind of compensation. I like to think that if this happened today, especially if a 2yr old went missing in a little bush town, there'd be outrage & search parties consisting of more then just her friends & relatives. But I really thought so back then too. I guess the best outcome to my wondering, will be that we never have the opportunity to find out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    I fail to see why this case should have 15 different threads and it's own subforum. This isn't Jodi Arias Space. In the grand scheme of things, considering what site we are on, there have been much more heinous, disgusting, emotionally ripping cases on here than what this broad did. The case went bonkers and so did everyone else who happened to find out about it right before trial started.

    Also, anything that slows down and shuts down the site because there is too much fuckery going on is crazy. I don't care what the case is, I am pretty sure most of the people posting are adults. I am shocked that as an individual 'hanging out' in a community of people, it's too hard to abide by common decency and the minimal rules there are. Nobody is challenging freedom of fucking speech.


    Agreed. 15? Fucking HELL. I just counted & saw your post when I was scrolling back to edit mine. I obviously havn't looked for quite a while because I said 6 & I thought THAT was crazy excessive. Wow. Wow.Wow. There are HORRIBLE gutwrenching MULTI-victim crimes here that haven't got this much attention. There are threads here where the families have signed up to MDS to plead for help lobbying politicians etc to get justice for murdered & missing family members.


    If just a little of this massive outpouring of outrage could be redirected to those victims, it might have a purpose. I don't understand why THIS case is more important to so many uninvolved people than any other equally awful or worse case. I'm absolutely NOT saying this wasn't a horrible crime with far-reaching consequences for family & friends, but that can be said for all violent crimes. There are people out there still fighting just to get to the investigation stage. Some of this energy directed at those cases could actually DO something.

    Anyway, will shutup & go edit my TOTALLY incorrect post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    And not 1 fuck was given
    Not in the thread, no. There's quite a few pm's & vm's flying around though.

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    Well. I must say...the people that don't give a fuck, finally found a home. I was going to start a thread yesterday for this but that would have been number 16 I guess it took a simple renaming and woolah! Here you got it! Now I guess they won't show up in the main thread to add their words of wisdom. Maybe my hopes are too high. I do think that coconut shouldn't get credit for what this thread has become, but that's just me.


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    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    The reason we can all say 'Trayvon Martin' when trying to think of a minority crime victim is because it's so rare for them to be the subject of a massive media inquiry that they stand out.
    This is like arguing whether or not fire is hot. I'm fucking sick of it.

    People: If you don't see this shit, you're an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    This is like arguing whether or not fire is hot. I'm fucking sick of it.

    People: If you don't see this shit, you're an idiot.
    I will agree that the minorities do not get airplay. It happens so frequently that it would clog the media. Trayvon is a rare case indeed.


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    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    I will agree that the minorities do not get airplay. It happens so frequently that it would clog the media. Trayvon is a rare case indeed.
    I mean, there's just nothing to discuss about it. That's why I don't understand how people don't see it. It's obvious, and the media even admits it. So how do other people deny it?


    And it's totally a class/race/looks issue. It's not like the media would go crazy covering an obese, poor, white lesbian either.

    Something to lighten the mood. Starts at 2:08
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Not Jodi related, but it addresses what we've been talking about.

    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/1...-hide-victims/
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    Quote Originally Posted by g r ee n ey e s View Post
    I fail to see why this case should have 15 different threads and it's own subforum. This isn't Jodi Arias Space. In the grand scheme of things, considering what site we are on, there have been much more heinous, disgusting, emotionally ripping cases on here than what this broad did. The case went bonkers and so did everyone else who happened to find out about it right before trial started.

    Also, anything that slows down and shuts down the site because there is too much fuckery going on is crazy. I don't care what the case is, I am pretty sure most of the people posting are adults. I am shocked that as an individual 'hanging out' in a community of people, it's too hard to abide by common decency and the minimal rules there are. Nobody is challenging freedom of fucking speech.

    All of this.


    I'm truly astounded at the amount of attention this case has received - more than any other I've seen. In my reality, it's really not that compelling or interesting of a case. This isn't unique. This shit has happened before. A lot.
    Like it's been said, this was made a huge deal because a nice lil white boy got stabbed a bunch by his crazy girlfriend.

    Sorry, but way more complex and interesting shit has happened in local news cases where I live.

    The fact the people got so obsessed over this shit is disturbing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    All of this.


    I'm truly astounded at the amount of attention this case has received - more than any other I've seen. In my reality, it's really not that compelling or interesting of a case. This isn't unique. This shit has happened before. A lot.
    Like it's been said, this was made a huge deal because a nice lil white boy got stabbed a bunch by his crazy girlfriend.

    Sorry, but way more complex and interesting shit has happened in local news cases where I live.

    The fact the people got so obsessed over this shit is disturbing.
    I don't think people being fascinated was disturbing. I found that interesting. But the Jodi hate? That was seriously disturbing.

    White people hated her like they hate Michael Vick. And White people think he's the fucking anti-Christ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    I don't think people being fascinated was disturbing. I found that interesting. But the Jodi hate? That was seriously disturbing.

    White people hated her like they hate Michael Vick. And White people think he's the fucking anti-Christ.
    Speaking for all white people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McMama View Post
    Speaking for all white people?
    Absolutely.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    I don't think people being fascinated was disturbing. I found that interesting. But the Jodi hate? That was seriously disturbing.

    White people hated her like they hate Michael Vick. And White people think he's the fucking anti-Christ.
    I didn't say fascinated. I said obsessed. Which completely agrees with what you just said.

    It's psychotic to fester hate day after day after day on a person you don't even know, who isn't a part of your life, because she killed her boyfriend. Honestly.
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    Listen, if no one cares when a crazy noodle walks in and executes children with a gun, no one cares about anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Absolutely.
    I like Michael Vick.....he did a crime and did his time. The fact that he watched as dogs killed each other is between him and God or whomever. He's a terrible quarterback though


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    I don't think people being fascinated was disturbing. I found that interesting. But the Jodi hate? That was seriously disturbing.

    White people hated her like they hate Michael Vick. And White people think he's the fucking anti-Christ.
    Awww, now I gotta know who this anti-christ person is. & it's 2.30 am & I was gonna go to sleep, but curiosity just keeps finding more kitties to kill..off too google then..


    ETA oh. sport? This is one kitty that's gonna live a long & happy life then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    I didn't say fascinated. I said obsessed. Which completely agrees with what you just said.

    It's psychotic to fester hate day after day after day on a person you don't even know, who isn't a part of your life, because she killed her boyfriend. Honestly.
    Yea, I can agree with that.

    I was interested at first, but since I didn't think she could possibly do it alone, people called me a troll. After some of the meathead convos I got into, and seeing what passed for humor in there, I left. It was so bad, it turned me off the case completely. I didn't watch any of the trial or anything. And that pisses me off cause I would really like see how anyone was convinced of how a little girl can take a grown ass man down and drag him around Captain Caveman style.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Yea, but this is about the victim. You really think anyone would have cared if Travis was Hispanic?
    Your whole premise diminishes how deliciously despicable Arias is. "People" heard about her when Sheriff Joe Dumbfuck put her in a singing contest. And you were like, 'hey, she's hot. When did registrations on MDS skyrocket? When she killed the white guy in 2008? Or when she took the stand in February? Your attributing that somehow to race is bizarre. Arias stands on her own merit. Coconut puts it plainly:'

    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Jodi wasn't a great waitress. She wasn't great at multi-level marketing. She wasn't a good daughter. Jodi wasn't a good Mormon.

    But Jodi is the best motherfucking criminal defendant of all time. Utter. Fucking. Legend. She knows how to play HLN like a fiddle.
    This case is about the defendant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    I like Michael Vick.....he did a crime and did his time. The fact that he watched as dogs killed each other is between him and God or whomever. He's a terrible quarterback though
    You are obviously not white.

    Wait, but you called him a bad quarterback. Now I don't know what to think.

    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    Awww, now I gotta know who this anti-christ person is. & it's 2.30 am & I was gonna go to sleep, but curiosity just keeps finding more kitties to kill..off too google then..
    Oh, you're not American. I almost fainted from all the WTF that rushed to my head.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post
    Your whole premise diminishes how deliciously despicable Arias is. "People" heard about her when Sheriff Joe Dumbfuck put her in a singing contest. And you were like, 'hey, she's hot. When did registrations on MDS skyrocket? When she killed the white guy in 2008? Or when she took the stand in February? Your attributing that somehow to race is bizarre. Arias stands on her own merit. Coconut puts it plainly:'



    This case is about the defendant.
    What? What the fuck are you even arguing? The bitch practically had a network dedicated to her. Can you even name another person that was on trial this year?

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    I don't know if I can say I hate Michael Vick, but I'll never like him.


    I can't like people who abuse children and/or animals.


    I don't care if he did his time, that seed is planted in him and I'll always give that fucker the side-eye.


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    What? What the fuck are you even arguing? The bitch practically had a network dedicated to her. Can you even name another person that was on trial this year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    All of this.


    I'm truly astounded at the amount of attention this case has received - more than any other I've seen. In my reality, it's really not that compelling or interesting of a case. This isn't unique. This shit has happened before. A lot.
    Like it's been said, this was made a huge deal because a nice lil white boy got stabbed a bunch by his crazy girlfriend.

    Sorry, but way more complex and interesting shit has happened in local news cases where I live.

    The fact the people got so obsessed over this shit is disturbing.
    You clearly did not see the circus that was the Casey Anthony trial. I will put it this way then leave you all to your thread. There are many things about the Jodi trial that are intriguing, for lack of a better word. None of those to me are that she is white! The nature of the crime is horrendous, she killed him 3 times over. The sex! Don't hate me for it but it sells and that is what the media is counting on. Her interviews pre-trial were wacky crazy. The whole premeditation thing with the gas cans and her planned trip to Mesa. The Mormon element, I have always thought they were crazy (no offense to any LDS, it's my opinion not fact). It's local, I follow many local crimes, Jhysse Shockley to name one. I could name more but I hope you get the point. Just because it is not compelling to you, doesn't mean it isn't compelling


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    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    You clearly did not see the circus that was the Casey Anthony trial. I will put it this way then leave you all to your thread. There are many things about the Jodi trial that are intriguing, for lack of a better word. None of those to me are that she is white! The nature of the crime is horrendous, she killed him 3 times over. The sex! Don't hate me for it but it sells and that is what the media is counting on. Her interviews pre-trial were wacky crazy. The whole premeditation thing with the gas cans and her planned trip to Mesa. The Mormon element, I have always thought they were crazy (no offense to any LDS, it's my opinion not fact). It's local, I follow many local crimes, Jhysse Shockley to name one. I could name more but I hope you get the point. Just because it is not compelling to you, doesn't mean it isn't compelling
    Clearly you're offended. Let me clarify...

    I think anyone who wasn't living in a cave knows about Casey Anthony. That case still didn't get it's own subforum and psycho obsession that this one did.

    This case is no more compelling than Casey Anthony. That's not saying it isn't compelling. It's just grossly over-rated, considering similar cases like this happen everyday. They're just not on CNN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    You clearly did not see the circus that was the Casey Anthony trial. I will put it this way then leave you all to your thread. There are many things about the Jodi trial that are intriguing, for lack of a better word. None of those to me are that she is white! The nature of the crime is horrendous, she killed him 3 times over. The sex! Don't hate me for it but it sells and that is what the media is counting on. Her interviews pre-trial were wacky crazy. The whole premeditation thing with the gas cans and her planned trip to Mesa. The Mormon element, I have always thought they were crazy (no offense to any LDS, it's my opinion not fact). It's local, I follow many local crimes, Jhysse Shockley to name one. I could name more but I hope you get the point. Just because it is not compelling to you, doesn't mean it isn't compelling


    This is why we can't have nice things.

    NO ONE IS SAYING YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED BECAUSE SHE IS WHITE! I repeat WE ARE NOT SAYING YOU WATCHED THE CASE BECAUSE SHE IS WHITE!

    No one ever fucking said that, so I have NO idea why anyone is arguing about it.

    The only thing we said was that the reason the case got so much MEDIA ATTENTION was due to race. And there's no debating that. I'm not telling anyone what they think, just telling you how the media works.

    Also, we didn't have to install failsafes to keep the forum from crashing when Casey's trial went on. We also didn't have to remove the karma system. Just sayin'.

    ETA: Just cause the trial attracted some psychos, we're not calling all of you psycho. There's no need to get defensive. If you can have a coherent discussion, chances are we don't mean you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post


    This is why we can't have nice things.

    NO ONE IS SAYING YOU GUYS ARE INTERESTED BECAUSE SHE IS WHITE! I repeat WE ARE NOT SAYING YOU WATCHED THE CASE BECAUSE SHE IS WHITE!

    No one ever fucking said that, so I have NO idea why anyone is arguing about it.

    The only thing we said was that the reason the case got so much MEDIA ATTENTION was due to race. And there's no debating that. I'm not telling anyone what they think, just telling you how the media works.

    Also, we didn't have to install failsafes to keep the forum from crashing when Casey's trial went on. We also didn't have to remove the karma system. Just sayin'.
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Ron_NYC again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shins View Post
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Ron_NYC again.
    I don't mind debating opinion, but people want to argue facts. I refuse to do that.
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