Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[lorizfree]

Maybe he said, "You sound like a 12 year old girl" because she did. She talked like a teenager on that tape. She acts childish in court and DeMarte said she was immature.

I had a boyfriend once tell me, "Boy, you look like a little kid" when I ran into him unexpectedly. I was hanging out with the girls on rainy day and was drenched. Come on!

As far as "cork the pot", I think that's Nurmi's invention. Alyce said pork something. Anyone actually hear what he said on the tape?

***Someone noted the other day that posting pictures seems to slow down the thread. Can we refrain? Some people really need their MDS today.

I obviously don't have a key to unlock the secrets of Travis's sexual mind, but I will give you this to ponder... Like it or not, in the Mormon religion, having sex with a virgin is expected, and obviously a major virtue. To a guy who's been raised to think that have the right to have a young virgin, is the ultimate sexual turn on that one could have. Does it REALLY surprise anyone, that porking a young virgin, would be "so hot" to some Mormon men, who haven't yet lived up to expectation to the marry a young virgin? Check out the what the Mormon church believes. You might be surprised at some of the ages of these little girls(younger than 12), marry MUCH older men. It's fucking perverted, but it is still happening in many Mormon churches across the US. For a true 'Mormon" man, it's unlikely to be seen as pedophilia. The young girls are married off to old men, then expected to do some really horrible things. It's unfortunately part of their culture, and most definitely their history.

EWWWWW...

[wasthinking]

Good one! Zing! I will grant you that. It takes two hands to get to Candyland for some of us.

Here is a fact we know: Travis was jacking off talking to Jodi about a 12 year old girl having her first orgasm. Nurmi didn't make this up. It happened. What does it mean? I don't know. But it makes me uncomfortable.

If my woman asked me to dress up like a little boy, that would be the last thing she asked me... gross.

You are being a drama queen and a deceitful one at that. Travis didn't ask her to dress up as anything, the evidence was proven that was killer's idea.

Travis is dead and she's still making herself appear as a 12 yr old!

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

"Also, if she is so SMART, she would have lawyered up very quickly. Hours in the interrogation room tells me she THINKS she is smart. It's not the same thing." Quoting Cara:

^That. Cara is exactly right. She THINKS she's smart.

[Brillig]

His attempts to paint TA as an abuser make me cringe. Sexual fantasy or role playing between two consenting adults is not abuse if it uses imagination rather than real images. He knows this very well but hopes to shock one juror. No mention of Arias wanting to "Fuck him like a dirty, horny little schoolgirl', dress like one or wear braids. Double standards that the jury can't fail to spot. If TA was guilty of sexual deviancy, so was Arias. Nurmi's attempts to paint Arias as sexually abused were scuppered by his own client - right on the witness stand. His exasperation was plain to see on camera as Arias sniggered about her stress free sex with TA. Arias was adamant that all sex was consensual, ALWAYS. She enjoyed it. Hardly the testimony of an abused woman. Nurmi is flogging a dead horse here but it is all he has.

Arias loved the schoolgirl stuff but something tells me that you won't find that so repulsive or offensive.

EXACTLY! ^^^

Wasn't there a text message where she is the one saying she wants to fuck him like a 12 year old? correct me if I am wrong.

Yes, there was.

I just want to be 100% clear. What Travis said is disgusting, and he said it. Several times. If a woman ever mentioned a fantasy like that to me, I would be out the door like a rocket. Something is wrong with what he said, no matter how you look at it. What does it really mean about Travis? I'm not sure except to say that the guy had major major sexual issues and he unleashed them all on Jodi.

Schoolgirl fantasies are among the most common for men and women, like in the top ten of common fantasies. Liking actual 12 year old girls is indeed creepy. Engaging in schoolgirl fantasy play with your consenting, adult partner is neither creepy nor abnormal.

Question: Nurmi referred to questions submitted by jurors no longer on the jury panel...

How in the heck does he know that?

No kidding. I hope the court or prosecution looks into the matter further.

What is Nurmi doing with his hand to his mouth? It looks weird.

He is tittering.

[Freaktab]

I apologize for being so petty and any smites I get I will gladly accept, but damn....

Everytime I see Nurmi, all I think of is

"Bring me Solo. And the wookie."

[Ian 1]

Anyway what I was going to say is that would make sense if he were to do an almost 180, but if he is bent over (line backer pose and all) he is not going to be able to turn that sharply without swinging his WHOLE upper body around to the left (remembering Jodi shot him on the right side of his forehead) AND still end up falling slightly to the left of her...it just doesn't make sense. And besides that, he has his arms stretched out (according to Jodi), she has her arms stretched out (clutching the gun) and yet he lands on top of her on her upper chest area. What did he do, swing back around after being shot THEN lunge?

Arias's story is just goddam nonsense. It was a bathroom for chrissakes; not a football field. There wasn't room to swing a dead cat in there, never mind all this b.s. about tackling, and rolling and tugging.

[tiggrrl72077]

So "professional photographer" Stabby never took a single photo of any alleged injuries to she suffered and left them with her ally Matt McCartney? The only one she claims saw the non exisistent bruises on her neck? She didn't have him take a photo and tuck it away safely somewhere?

I hope the jury wonders why Matt McCartney was never called to testify by the dense and that JM reinforces it in his rebuttal.

That's the weird thing to me. I am a photographer and I take pictures of EVERYTHING. I told my husband if I ever had to go to the ICU for any reason (like if I was in an accident and in a coma or something) I want pictures of all of it. I even took pictures of a spider in my sink before I killed it.

[Iluvsam]

I wonder if Nurmi is about to finish his closing, since he is talking about the charges and how to interpret them

[Cocopop]

Hey gang new member here been following took forever to get signed up

Welcome Lana you picked a hell of a day to sign up-- MDS moving slow today

You kind of left out the important part "HAVING HER FIRST ORGASM". It really makes a difference!

I didn't find it pedo like nor offensive that those words were said.... they had a kinky relationship, shit gets said when hot & bothered, he didn't elaborate, he only said it twice because she asked him to repeat it (imo) because she was planning on using this so called "sex tape" against him in some sort of manipulative way.

I say so called sex tape because for fucks sake, it was G rated compared to my bedroom talks as I am sure many other posters here too. That whole tape seemed provoked by Arias, did he bite, sure he did, he's a male... whose fantasies are on a far more heightened level than most females. You'll find very few men who'll refuse sex, whether it be on the phone or not. We have no clue if Arias pumped those images into his fantasy of dressing as a french maid when she comes to clean, as much as we don't know if she is the one who offered to dress like a school girl.

Is it classy to use a twelve year old having her 1st orgasm as an example... No, it is so distasteful, YET Google just these two words--> school girl <-- then click images. THIS (imo) is what was on Travis's mind when he stated this, not a for real 12 year old. I know you know this CoCoNut, nothing about that sex tape was God awful, we're adults, we do & say some fuck'd up shit w/ our partners in private.
I bet if Arias said to him are you serious? (after he stated that) he would have clarified himself, he's NOT a pedo. That shit hit's close to home with me & it disgusts me to the point of being nauseous, there are things that are a definite pattern w/ pedo's that they do not stray from, AND nothing, absolutely nothing, was found.
Still have Love for you, though

[AnnieBelle]

You kind of left out the important part "HAVING HER FIRST ORGASM". It really makes a difference!

It was goofy sex play and chatter, between the both of them......willing participants in talking naughty to each other. Who, on earth, HASN'T done that? Who doesn't have some fantasy in their minds? "barely legal" is a common fantasy theme on websites, in porn mags, or movies. Britney Spears did the hot little school girl thing, in one of her earlier videos. Doesn't mean they want CHILDREN! Nothing wrong with fantasy in sex play, as long as both parties are willing. It was their private business....Jodi is the one who "oops" taped it and made it part of her defense. She is the one trying to make it look like it was so bad because she knows what she did was VERY bad.

[wasthinking]

Ay, but there are other references. In a text. Forget the undies. Travis's own words indicate there was some interest in underage girls.

Links? there aren't any. Put em up or you only show yourself a liar in your support of killer.

[dizzyp]

suffering from severe comment-interruptus... (it's going around)

[Poppycock]

Ay, but there are other references. In a text. Forget the undies. Travis's own words indicate there was some interest in underage girls.

If you overheard a conversation between an adult woman and her BF where she said "Ooh, you sound like a 12 year old boy having his first orgasm. That's soo hot!" would that concern you at all?

Take out the age, it could mean that "you sounded like someone having her/his first orgasm, that's so hot", and the age 12 might be the age he thinks most girls experience that.

[M Joy]

WTF is up with post #21976?!

@WildAboutTrial3m
I saw the defense team going through a myriad of photos during lunch break. They have quite a stack of exhibits to show yet.



WTF Nurmi playing the sex tape with the wrong words on the screen. This is below where I thought he was going to go.

[Lana2006]

Who in their right mind would continue having sex (or even speaking to) some guy you caught jacking off to pics of young boys? I mean come on I've ended relationships for way less

[aaronsmommy]

WORMI YOU PERVERTED TOOL - no one needs to hear this shit again.

[Iluvsam]

Links? there aren't any. Put em up or you only show yourself a liar in your support of killer.

[phantompoet]

nurmi and his obsession with sex again

[Iluvsam]

Links? there aren't any. Put em up or you only show yourself a liar in your support of killer.

[poppym]

Nurmi, this is a trial, NOT a novel!

[coconut]

Confession time: I'm the one who added the capital letters to all the sexy words in the phone tape transcription.

[DenverClipper]

Utterly disgusting

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Why is Nurmi allowed to repeatedly mention excused jurors?

[aaronsmommy]

I'm sorry but I laughed my ass off at the "If this were a sperm bank I could retire off this load" comment when I first heard it. That shit was hilarious

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Where the texts that mention the Spiderman underwear Nurmi? You never presented them in court as evidence!

Alyce Laviolette saying it don't make true.

What a douchenozzle he is!