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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    I saw Dr. Horn just come in. I think he may be next up on the stand but not sure. #JodiArias

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Um...that's 2 more than Hunky Dr. Horne has seen. DOING AUTOPSIES DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU TO OPINE ON BRAIN FUNCTION IN LIVE PEOPLE, people...
    This wasn't actually asked...but I'm guessing this Doctor didn't see those 2 patients 60 seconds after they were shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdeadline View Post
    Maybe he's involved with an older relative of hers?
    Hey I thought she was a very good witness. Plus she could pour water without spilling it while sparring with that twit JW.

    She was credible in my opinion and I suspect in the jury's minds as well.

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    why doesn't Juan ask him if the GSW could lack blood etc. because of the HUGE GAPING HOLE IN HIS THROAT?!

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    P.S.-Has anyone else given a reach-around to a spider-monkey whilst reciting the pledge of allegiance, or is that fairly uncommon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    The difference is, Dr. DeMarte was not trying to hide that she was being compensated. In this case with Dr. Geffner, he was saying the money goes to the foundation --which it does -- but the foundation is paying him to work on this case and be in court.

    To put it in layman's terms. Let's say I work for a widget-maker. My boss/his company gets a contract to produce 1,000 widgets. Someone has to produce those widgets and it's me. So, when my boss/company gets the order, I benefit, because if there were no widgets to produce, my boss/his company wouldn't be making money and I wouldn't have a job.

    Dr. Geffner is not a getting a check in his name from the defense team, but his company/foundation is getting a check and his pay comes out of that. It's all semantics.


    On a side note, can I just say how hilarious it is that Jenny is objecting that Martinez asked Dr. Geffner a question that was beyond the scope of his knowledge? You mean like asking him about autopsies and bullet penetration?
    but the 13g check isn't written in his name it pays for other things .

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    Counsel is headed back into chambers. Dr. G has left the building. #JodiArias sits at her desk not crafting.

    Stabby probably whining about missing her nutri loaf




    Dr. Geffner finally admitting TA could have been dead when shot in the head was a win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Um...that's 2 more than Hunky Dr. Horne has seen. DOING AUTOPSIES DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU TO OPINE ON BRAIN FUNCTION IN LIVE PEOPLE, people...
    It does, he's an MD. I have a feeling JM isn't going to use the other one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loonywop View Post
    paid guns on both sides .What's good for the goose is good for the gander,people here like the goose more.I think the Doc is running rings around Juaninator
    Disagree. Huge difference between being a likable witness and being a credible witness. His opinions have no basis. The jury questions indicate they also doubt his testimony.

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    So Sad all the wasted time this judge has allowed during the trial and is now putting the jury through a day like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mochachino View Post
    She wears flip flops into work. Probably around breaks too. She could wear flats if she wanted. But I guess she'd be a little short. lol
    what like 6'2"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    I understood 100% from his original direct exam. He has no incentive to overbill or spend extra time, it doesn't change his salary. His rate is the same as all the others and that money goes to a non-profit foundation.

    The take home point is that he is probably the most financially objective expert witness we have seen so far. Special Cupcake Farts Demarte got paid more than he did.
    I'm not saying he has any intention of overbilling. I don't think he has. It's like I said, just a matter of symantics; by saying he wasn't getting paid. He clearly is though he's not getting the check personally. A small point, and I'm not sure why it was danced around before being admitted to.

    All of these experts are paid, obviously. I doubt anyone, even the jury, thinks they are doing it out of the goodness of their hearts. It's just ridiculous to dance around the answer. Of course the whole point came up when we found out the large number of hours that Drs Samuels and LaViolette spent/billed for, so every expert is going to get it from there on out. Martinez challenged the defense experts, so Willmott was quick to do the same with DeMarte, and of course Martinez turned around and did it to Dr. Geffner. Now if Martinez puts up another Dr., I'm sure we'll see the same thing from Willmott again.

    I believe it started as a point to simply show how long Samuels and LaViolette spent with Jodi, and really, intiially, whether all those hours ended up in them developing sympathy and being somewhat biased because of that. Secondary gain came up of course, as well. And we're not going to stop hearing about it unfortunately.

    The difference is, in this case, this Dr. apparently had no meaningful interaction with Jodi at all, and he's just giving his opinion on reports given by other psychologists. Obviously in that case, Dr. Geffner would seemingly have no bias with regards to liking Jodi or feeling sorry for her, as the other psychologists might. But, it's also saying that he's like a rubber stamp, to the other 2. He didn't do any independent work and can't be quizzed on that as such. He's just there to reaffirm Samuels and LaViolette. And because he's being paid by the defense and can't be questioned, unlike Samuels, LaViolette and DeMarte, it becomes important, imo, to establish whether he is just rubber stamping what the former 2 have said, without question, to collect a paycheck.

    I think it's a valid question.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    He also said he doesn't much if any diagnoses these days. He's what the appellate court called him...a hired gun.
    For godsake, they're ALL hired guns...did you see the video oh right posted this am? The wonderful Dr. Hayes testified on behalf of the tobacco industry that cigarettes are not addictive. That's not a hired gun? Give me a break...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
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    Counsel is headed back into chambers. Dr. G has left the building. #JodiArias sits at her desk not crafting.

    Stabby probably whining about missing her nutri loaf




    Dr. Geffner finally admitting TA could have been dead when shot in the head was a win.
    She's just pissed she doesn't have a futon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alyoop View Post
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    I saw Dr. Horn just come in. I think he may be next up on the stand but not sure. #JodiArias

    oooooh.... eye candy and substance. nom nom nom nom.... yes, the scotch is good. too good
    Maybe that's why Jenny looks like she wants to cry? Yup, it is!

    Quote Originally Posted by CreepyGus View Post
    This wasn't actually asked...but I'm guessing this Doctor didn't see those 2 patients 60 seconds after they were shot.
    Excellent point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Um...that's 2 more than Hunky Dr. Horne has seen. DOING AUTOPSIES DOES NOT QUALIFY YOU TO OPINE ON BRAIN FUNCTION IN LIVE PEOPLE, people...
    um - you know b4 he could become a medical examiner he had to go thru medical school and residency at a hopsital - w/ live patients

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    Oooh Dr. Horne back again.


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    OMG hot ME!!!

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    Dr. Horn!!!! YAYAYAYAYAY!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenstein View Post
    P.S.-Has anyone else given a reach-around to a spider-monkey whilst reciting the pledge of allegiance, or is that fairly uncommon?

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    Ooh hello Dr Horne...

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    OMG. What a treat.

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    So no Dr. Hayes, I presume?

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    Hello, Dr. Hottie Biscotti!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post
    So no Dr. Hayes, I presume?
    I would assume Dr Hayes would be next. Juan flies thru witnesses.

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    did you see jodi's shocked look when she saw dr hottie?

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    Hello Dr. Horne

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