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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    As far as her book. Not going to happen. At all. Because she can't make a dime off it and the Alexander family will stop it.*
    OJ: "If I Did It" JA: "If I Told the Truth"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    Arias sent out the message that she was 'not promiscuous.' At the same time, she declared that she was once pregnant. I immediately rushed outside to look for the star in the eastern skies. No luck!
    Ha! Well played, sir.

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    I think the only thing the defense has left is that 50-page jury instructions. (I believe I read thats how long it is, but that might just be Nurmi's version. I wonder if it has a lot of "aaaaaaannnnnnd......'s" in it )

    Also this....
    Last edited by M Joy; 04-25-2013 at 05:48 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    OJ: "If I Did It" JA: "If I Told the Truth"
    Of course, like the Goldmans, they had the title changed to "I did it- confessions of a killer", and got all of the proceeds from it. I suppose the Alexanders can have her's changed from "If I told the truth" to "if I told the truth- it will be a cold day in Hell"

    Quote Originally Posted by frankenstein View Post
    P.S.-Has anyone else given a reach-around to a spider-monkey whilst reciting the pledge of allegiance, or is that fairly uncommon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    Throughout the thread, The quote "Jodi ruins everything" is repeated over and over, but it makes no sense to me. What did she ruin? (and I'm not referring to the killing).

    If it had not been for her lies, behaviors, and beliefs, this thread and thread #1 would not have grown to ultra numbers of posts.

    So, Jodi didn't ruin everything, she and her DT have provided months of entertainment that other trials have not.


    the bolded part: very true but a very sad statement of things don't you think?
    Marshmallow here is the one I liken to Ed Gein... Originally Posted by Heartbroken1


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    I knew Juan caught Jodi in several lies yesterday, including the Helio phone. She previously testified that she lost her Helio on either May 17th or May 18th and it wasn't found for several years. See her testimony on that at the 28 minute mark of this portion.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSOV5ZRBHVY

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    Throughout the thread, The quote "Jodi ruins everything" is repeated over and over, but it makes no sense to me. What did she ruin? (and I'm not referring to the killing).

    If it had not been for her lies, behaviors, and beliefs, this thread and thread #1 would not have grown to ultra numbers of posts.

    So, Jodi didn't ruin everything, she and her DT have provided months of entertainment that other trials have not.
    I honestly beg to differ. Jodi has ruined a lot of everyday things for many of us. Things that were once innocent and/or pleasurable now bring up tainted images of Jodi. First of all, sex. I never thought I would be bored of the topic of sex. But after hearing about all of Jodi's adventures for nearly 3 months and Nurmi begging for all the gory details, its been a tad difficult to get that stuff out of my mind at times, especially in light of what she did to Travis.
    But I believe many people are also referring to things like tootsie pops, toblerone bars, Starbucks, Cinnabon, legitimate domestic violence victims, toilet paper, etc.
    Obviously its all in good fun and to vent frustrations about this killer taking everyday things and making people think of them a bit differently

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    Jodi gave herself away on the stand first thing. She said the lies she told about the ninja's, she was just trying to make a story fit with what she knew evidence was. Well she gave the ninja a knife....if she was really in a fog and doesn't remember anything about the stabbing, having a knife, was in a fog from gunshot till hoover dam....then why the hell did she give the ninja a knife? Oh yeah.....to fit what she knew happened.....just like she said!

    She is really one dumb bitch for being so damn supposedly smart!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Donovan and her spawn are staring at the ceiling on HLN. What is up there?
    Jodi's last bit of hope floating awaaaay...

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    [QUOTE=Poppycock;3400851]
    The defense team after court, did not see any security detail. Jen has her heels off and flip-flops on.

    Willmott reminds me of Velma from Scooby Doo. I pity the law students she teaches, less than her husband of course.

    This is him here:


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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppycock View Post

    The defense team after court, did not see any security detail. Jen has her heels off and flip-flops on.

    While we did not get into the courtroom today, it was still worthwhile! All but nine of us got in, two Canadians left, and seven of us stayed in the waiting area and tried to watch our devices (not too successfully so I will watch later) and chatted. we were next to a young couple fresh out of med school, from MI. they have two months until internships (one a surgeon, the girl a psychiatrist) in MA, so came here to see the trial. Cane Lady did not get in either, and Katy Wick was not there but I saw she was on Dr. Drew just now. We saw the grandma in a wheelchair, and the guy that sits next to Mrs. Arias is very tall.

    Saw Juan and Estephan a few times in passing! Took a pic of my friend with Beth Caras outside, she is very approachable. My sister works in a Federal Building, we met her at City Center for cocktails then went to dinner at Nobuo, it has a James Beard award chef. Shocked to hear the end is near and so ready!



    above is the catwalk between courthouses, and Steven talking to Beth Caras.
    Thanks for the photo's Poppycock. If this thing isn't over by next Friday maybe there is a shot for Monday the 6th.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    And I probably won't-dammit. However, if it's not over by Friday, p.m., I'll definitely drive over from Palm Springs on Sunday evening and join the vigil on Monday. I'll look for you.

    Hell yeah, you can bet if it is still going on, I will take that whole day off till we have a verdict. Probably wishful thinking but I've invested so much time in this trial that is sucks that I might not see how it all unfolds.

    Quote Originally Posted by lorizfree View Post
    Does anyone know what time trial starts today?
    9:30 Juan will be calling Dr. Horne to the stand, I believe it's his last rebuttal witness. Should be done by noon. Wednesday, Dickhead Nurmi gets his surrebuttal with his Psych Dr. until it ends then Thursday and Friday closing arguments and jury left to deliberate.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    Jodi's last bit of hope floating awaaaay...
    Its amazing to see Jodi 'friends' juxtaposed with Travis'.

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    [QUOTE=Dee Stress;3400762]No big WOW there, there's nothing for Nurmi to 'get out'. 48hrs dude probably asked for a briefing, Flores lays the story down and his 'something provoked JA' would be no different from him saying along the lines of something sparked her off, semantics. He knew from the off she was guilty, it's not as if he was ever on her side when 48hrs was filmed, just Nurmi trying to score sleekit points from nothing.[QUOTE]

    Hi Dee. The problem with what Nurmi did when he blurted out the "was JA provoked" during his cross-examination of Flores was this: (1) it went beyond what Juan asked Flores during his rebuttal. Juan never mentioned anything remotely connected to JA being provoked on June 4. Juan objected. the objection was sustained; it was actually a blatent violation of the rules of evidence; and (2) recently, the DT added the lesser charge of "manslaughter" to the jury instructions which means they want the jury to consider that JA killed TA in a heat of passion, i.e., she was provoked. However, the DT's defense throughout this trial, was focused on self-defense and that she was scared and in "mortal fear" of her life. The DT did not question JA whether she was "provoked." So, in turn, Juan never had the opportunity rebut that theory. In other words, DT dropped the ball. So, what does Nurmi do in a last minute desperate attempt to get SOME EVIDENCE, ANY EVIDENCE that she was "provoked" into killing him before the jury? Slippery Nurmi tries to get in through the back door what he should have presented through the front door. He knows better. It was sneaky and unethical. Speaking as an attorney who has practiced for 23 years, it was a WOW moment for me.
    Last edited by Lady MacBeth; 04-25-2013 at 06:39 AM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    i think nurni wants to make it seem like they are porn
    Nurmi cannot believe someone doesn't have porn on their puter. To him it is what computers are for.

    as the meme goes 'The internet is for porn'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alyoop View Post
    I was just waiting for the pocket hose commercial. honest. i have pythons in my garage.
    You need a mongoose. Trust me on this. You can get one at Mongooses R Us.

    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    Yes! I need a different image for this! As soon as I read it, my mind started playing snapshots of that avatar at a body-building contest - it was all in black & white of course. Now it keeps popping into my head whenever I scroll past one of Brillig's comments. Distracting.
    Love it!

    If I was able to manipulate photos, I would totally make a pic with a female bodybuilder's body and Elsa Lanchester's head (as she looked in Bride of Frankenstein). I even found pics online and tried to do so, but it would appear my skill set in this area is woefully lacking. Perhaps someone else can do the honors? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post


    I feel pretty, oh so pretty...

    Travis Alexander is going to PAY the price for dumping a gorgeous girl like me! Imagine that, dumping ME.

    Ooh, I just can't wait. WHEEEEE!
    Shouldn't that be:

    I feel stabby, oh so stabby...

    (Cue music)

    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    Not disagreeing with your statements. Can't find fault with any of them. But as someone from the other side of the globe, I've got a question about the huge number of scathing reviews of the defense team's performance. A subject that comes up a lot are potential appeal options for Jodi. One of those frequently mentioned is ineffective counsel. I've only got the vaguest idea of what is/isn't allowable, but I was wondering about a couple of things.

    What I was wondering is that given the involvement of so many forms of social media & the constant 24/7 analysis of & commentary on every act & every gesture of anyone associated with the trial, is it possible Jodi could look to social media to support (or build) an argument for ineffective counsel? Could her supporters go to pro-Travis comment pages & use the mountain of attacks on her defense team for mistakes, omissions, unprofessionalism & general stupidity? Could she end up using even support for Travis & the hate & contempt people feel for her, to her advantage? Because that would completely suck.
    Short answer = NO

    Nurmi touching his junk and picking his nose in court does not equal ineffective counsel.
    Nurmi slouching in his chair does not equal ineffective counsel.
    Nurmi asking poor Deanna graphic sexual questions does not equal ineffective counsel.
    Nurmi saying aaaaaaannnnnnnd does not equal ineffective counsel.
    Nurmi wearing matching outfits with JenJen does not equal ineffective counsel.

    Willmott being shrill does not equal ineffective counsel.
    Willmott sounding like a valley girl does not equal ineffective counsel.
    Willmott having a bald spot does not equal ineffective counsel.
    Willmott giggling with Jodi does not equal ineffective counsel.
    Willmott passing notes with Jodi does not equal ineffective counsel.

    The defense team has given Jodi an extremely thorough and extra zealous defense. More than 1.5 million dollars has been spent on the defense alone. This trial has dragged on for 4 months, the vast majority of which was the defense case. The defense makes constant motions for a mistrial, and objects almost nonstop to testimony that could harm Jodi.

    While we can (and have) mocked Nurmi and Willmott's personal habits and characteristics, matching outfits, looks, clothing choices, etc, those things do not add up to ineffective representation of council at all. So while Jodi could file an appeal claiming ineffective representation of council, I predict there is no chance she could be successful.

    Quote Originally Posted by TMY1 View Post
    What ever happened to "whatever you say can and will be used against you?" Had she not been mirandized during most of the police tapes or what?
    "Can and will be used against you" does not actually mean every word she said or wrote will be shown to the jury.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    Arias sent out the message that she was 'not promiscuous.' At the same time, she declared that she was once pregnant. I immediately rushed outside to look for the star in the eastern skies. No luck!

    Did you observe any unidentified flying porcine? I hear they appear when Jodi makes comments about her non-promiscuity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    Throughout the thread, The quote "Jodi ruins everything" is repeated over and over, but it makes no sense to me. What did she ruin? (and I'm not referring to the killing).

    If it had not been for her lies, behaviors, and beliefs, this thread and thread #1 would not have grown to ultra numbers of posts.

    So, Jodi didn't ruin everything, she and her DT have provided months of entertainment that other trials have not.
    But now the trial is wrapping up, and soon will be over. No more hanging out on this thread and chatting about the case with all the wonderful new friends we have made.

    Jodi ruins everything.

    Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
    Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvian View Post
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39cjZz78OkA

    This is a pretty good video, jury notes with a very comprehensive timeline and shows Jodi's premeditation.

    just a warning, includes photos of travis's body including neck slash
    Outstanding. one of the better ones I have seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    This sums up yesterday.

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    SNIP
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    Edited to add: oops I see Oh Right already posted this link.
    eeg tree news is one I have been following for a few weeks now he is hilarious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    maybe she had a pair of these:

    Remind me of Tom Hanks in "Castaway' logo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    tweet the wildabouttrial guy, maybe he can move the camera around?!
    He is a she afaik.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    totally! and i heard an interview this weekend from an atty, and she said this will be a career ender for her because any other trial she testifies in, they can bring in these transcripts to discredit her for ever



    yes, this is part of her control thing, making every one wait for her cuz she is in charge
    THe judge should have made her wear Depends instead of allowing pee breaks 5 mins b4 recess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Not the same at all, the jury isn't stupid. This is the most disappointing thing I've seen JM try.
    I thought they'd find someone of similar height/weight to Jodi & have that person demonstrate actually attempting to step up AND reach to the back. They could've had something placed where the gun was supposed to be, to show the whole step, reach, grab scenario is completely implausible. So many people want to prove her a liar, surely they wouldn't have had a shortage of suitably-sized volunteers? They had a missed opportunity here. It could've been used to blow JA completely out of the water. Instead? It's still open for debate, because if our own pro-prosecution WT is underwhelmed with the science behind this little demonstration, then so are thousands more. The question is whether any jurors feel that way too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blighted star View Post
    I thought they'd find someone of similar height/weight to Jodi & have that person demonstrate actually attempting to step up AND reach to the back. They could've had something placed where the gun was supposed to be, to show the whole step, reach, grab scenario is completely implausible. So many people want to prove her a liar, surely they wouldn't have had a shortage of suitably-sized volunteers? They had a missed opportunity here. It could've been used to blow JA completely out of the water. Instead? It's still open for debate, because if our own pro-prosecution WT is underwhelmed with the science behind this little demonstration, then so are thousands more. The question is whether any jurors feel that way too.
    Maybe the defense team objected to certain aspects and the judge ruled that JM could only show what he showed?
    They were in closed door hearings yesterday. We don't know everything about why JM has entered certain evidence or why he hasn't entered other evidence.

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    Jusy 5 was a loose cannon and it would be just like her to be the odd jurer out in giving hodi the DP JUST SO SHE COULD GET SOME FACE TIME OR INFAMY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mochachino View Post
    I thought it was a "brand new camera" in JA's words and they were "breaking it in" in her testimony? I was shocked to hear there were another 90 pics. She selectively deleted certain photos then! I thought all photos were. Her being a 'photographer' she should have known deleting isn't permanent! Thankfully for us, another screw up showing how dumb she really is!
    This is a huge point.

    All recent digital cameras have a Delete All option in the menu that deletes all files from a memory card/stick (Memory Stick PRO Duo in this instance).

    So Jodi only tried to delete evidence of her being at Travis' that day, leaving other photo files on the camera.

    I still think she planned on taking the camera with her, but accidentally bundled it up with the sheets and threw it all in the washing machine. I can imagine her running around frantically looking for the camera.

    But as it stands, in her amnesiac fog Jodi was able to attempt to delete all evidence of her being at Travis' that day. Yeah, fog .... sure.



    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I honestly beg to differ. Jodi has ruined a lot of everyday things for many of us. Things that were once innocent and/or pleasurable now bring up tainted images of Jodi. First of all, sex. I never thought I would be bored of the topic of sex. But after hearing about all of Jodi's adventures for nearly 3 months and Nurmi begging for all the gory details, its been a tad difficult to get that stuff out of my mind at times, especially in light of what she did to Travis.
    But I believe many people are also referring to things like tootsie pops, toblerone bars, Starbucks, Cinnabon, legitimate domestic violence victims, toilet paper, etc.
    Obviously its all in good fun and to vent frustrations about this killer taking everyday things and making people think of them a bit differently
    Not to mention Travis' life, his family & friends lives, those with actual PTSD, those with BPD who feel people think they're potential killers now, Wilmott & Laviolette & Dr. DogAteMyHomework, her family.....

    Jodi has the Midas Touch -- everything she touches turns to sh!t.
    Last edited by sheesh; 04-25-2013 at 07:21 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    Hahahahahaha, Willmott just looked like an idiot.
    And someone said Jodi looked like a frog.( CANT FIND THE POST NOW)


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