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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Thanks for t he update ... that is wickedly funny and captures Jenny's performance perfectly! I understand wanting and needing to catch up as I went to a Phillies game and missed this afternoon's testimony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Was there a remake of that movie made with McCauley Culkin and Elijah Wood called the "Good Son"?
    I don't know, I haven't seen that movie but I read about it and see what it's story is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    I am truly sorry that you have to deal with PTSD like that! it sucks! I hope you eventually reach a point in your life that it becomes less severe. Thank you for sharing, that can't be easy either
    Thank you for your kind thoughts and words! It has gotten much better with time and a whole lot of therapy. It won't ever totally disappear, unless something took away my long term memory. But my trauma happened almost 17 yrs ago, so I have gained a lot more control over how to diffuse the flashback episodes...enough that it doesn't rule the day, any more. XO

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Bless you, wt...your common sense is so refreshing.

    I just keep wondering, what went on inside that twisted little brain...wouldn't you think, when she decided 'I'm gonna kill him' and started planning it, there might have been a tiny alarm bell going off? Like, 'gee these are scary thoughts, maybe I need help'? I guess it happens all the time but for some reason this particular case blows my mind.

    That, and how she was so calm and matter-of-fact afterwards, even just hours after she did it. Meeting up with that Ryan guy, totally normal. I can almost understand how she could flip out and kill Travis in a blind rage better than I can her being so serene and unbothered afterwards. No one she was with that next day noticed anything out of the ordinary. I would think someone who had done a thing like that would be distraught, shaking, SOMETHING!

    I dunno, I was just hoping for some insight from this Dr. person...
    I have to agree with Dr. Drew (He is not a psychiatrist, but an internist with an addictions subspecialty). After the epinephrine surge from fighting and killing Travis, other neurotransmitters and cortisol come into play. She, most likely, had an opiate-like feel good high.

    To say that there must be a million borderlines but none do this is to say that no one ever dies from anesthesia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Bless you, wt...your common sense is so refreshing.

    I just keep wondering, what went on inside that twisted little brain...wouldn't you think, when she decided 'I'm gonna kill him' and started planning it, there might have been a tiny alarm bell going off? Like, 'gee these are scary thoughts, maybe I need help'? I guess it happens all the time but for some reason this particular case blows my mind.

    That, and how she was so calm and matter-of-fact afterwards, even just hours after she did it. Meeting up with that Ryan guy, totally normal. I can almost understand how she could flip out and kill Travis in a blind rage better than I can her being so serene and unbothered afterwards. No one she was with that next day noticed anything out of the ordinary. I would think someone who had done a thing like that would be distraught, shaking, SOMETHING!

    I dunno, I was just hoping for some insight from this Dr. person...
    Her being so calm afterwards is probably a result of her BPD/sociopathic tendencies. Imo its another reason why she doesnt appear to be showing any remorse

    Im with a girl who has similar traits. She does not know how to show emotion at all. Sometimes i cant tell whether shes mad/happy/sad because on the outside she acts the same way no matter what her mood is. She could be in a bad or a good mood, but you woudnt know it unless you asked her

    Those "alarms" probably never went off in jodis head either because killing travis was just something she had to do. In the interrogation tapes, she said she just "needed to move on". I guess if she knew travis wasnt alive anymore, that would enable her to finally move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    how the hell did that double post happen????????????? grrrrrrrrrrr................. now I'm gonna have to learn how to delete a post!!!!!!!!!
    My last post was to you 're thanking you for.notifying of latest Eggtreenews article but I messed up. I am learning to navigate this site too. The movie The Bad Seed that Was thinking cited

    absolutely reminds me of Arias ... it was a disturbing and chilling performance

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    They didn't claim PTSD to defend the murder. They threw that in in hopes of selling her ridiculous memory loss. [ppl getting it mixed in, confused is a resulting bonus].
    What her defense by law actually is, is self defense. Conveniently, she just happens to remember enough for her 'he attacked me' self defense.
    And the lying, don't forget that. Remember the whole "She wasn't lying, she was CREATING AN ALTERNATE REALITY because she was TOO TRAUMATIZED to deal with what had really happened" Dr. Dick story?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    Thank you for your kind thoughts and words! It has gotten much better with time and a whole lot of therapy. It won't ever totally disappear, unless something took away my long term memory. But my trauma happened almost 17 yrs ago, so I have gained a lot more control over how to diffuse the flashback episodes...enough that it doesn't rule the day, any more. XO
    I'm very happy to hear that

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    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    how the hell did that double post happen????????????? grrrrrrrrrrr................. now I'm gonna have to learn how to delete a post!!!!!!!!!
    I swear I don't know! and I didn't do it on purpose!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    I have to agree with Dr. Drew (He is not a psychiatrist, but an internist with an addictions subspecialty). After the epinephrine surge from fighting and killing Travis, other neurotransmitters and cortisol come into play. She, most likely, had an opiate-like feel good high.

    To say that there must be a million borderlines but none do this is to say that no one ever dies from anesthesia.
    Not understanding this statement. Also, I don't recall many murders like this, other than the OJ case in the 90's, with multiple stabbings and near decapitation...how many diagnosed BPDs are there? millions? Not following your logic, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    HOLE'EE MOE'LLY! YOU KNOW "THE BAD SEED"! YOU ARE SO AWFULLY AWESOMER! JA is emphatically "the bad seed" and everyone on here really should watch it if they haven't already................ it's a window into the mind of a homicidal sociopath, as a child!
    It's one of my favs. Did you ever read the book? The movie is available at target for five bucks. My old VHS died so I'm going to have to break down and replace that movie.


    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Bless you, wt...your common sense is so refreshing.

    I just keep wondering, what went on inside that twisted little brain...wouldn't you think, when she decided 'I'm gonna kill him' and started planning it, there might have been a tiny alarm bell going off? Like, 'gee these are scary thoughts, maybe I need help'? I guess it happens all the time but for some reason this particular case blows my mind.

    That, and how she was so calm and matter-of-fact afterwards, even just hours after she did it. Meeting up with that Ryan guy, totally normal. I can almost understand how she could flip out and kill Travis in a blind rage better than I can her being so serene and unbothered afterwards. No one she was with that next day noticed anything out of the ordinary. I would think someone who had done a thing like that would be distraught, shaking, SOMETHING!

    I dunno, I was just hoping for some insight from this Dr. person...
    I've never been much of a 'why' person myself so maybe that adds to common sense. I think you are wanting 'feelings' where there are none. Feelings you imagine you might have, trying to put yourself in that situation. Hard to try to comprehend, they don't have what you want inside them. Jeffrey Dahmer, no more understood himself than we might ask why, so how could we understand him? And a long list of others that give evidence they themselves don't know why. It's like JA asking 'whats different' to Flores. I don't think that was manipulation. Most but, I think part of her was sincerly curious 'how why am I different'.
    Ted Bundy, would say he had anxiety sometimes, worried he left something behind so it was related to getting caught, but he didn't attribute those feelings to the horrors he committed. Can you imagine the power they might feel? An emotion, even a bad one, would be 'feeling'. The ability to not have fear? I can only imagine it, but even in imagination, I can see why they might enjoy any feeling where little is usually felt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Angiebla View Post
    Was there a remake of that movie made with McCauley Culkin and Elijah Wood called the "Good Son"?
    They did a remake in the 70s or 80s, Although in color, it wasn't as good in my opinion. Redgrave was good and Carradine but the little girl just didn't fit the role as well as Patty McCormak did.
    "Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin

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    We do NOT know the "all of it". The defense hasn't presented the entire story and the prosecution can't bring in all of Jodi's angry, stalking and tire-slashing because it is prejudicial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellaboo View Post
    My last post was to you 're thanking you for.notifying of latest Eggtreenews article but I messed up. I am learning to navigate this site too. The movie The Bad Seed that Was thinking cited

    absolutely reminds me of Arias ... it was a disturbing and chilling performance
    you'll get it, just keep posting and trying out stuff.............. I'm with you, "the bad seed" is disturbing and it wouldn't surprise me to find out that it was based off of a real person

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvsam View Post
    I swear I don't know! and I didn't do it on purpose!
    damn you Iluvsam!!!!!!!!! I knew it was you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    And the lying, don't forget that. Remember the whole "She wasn't lying, she was CREATING AN ALTERNATE REALITY because she was TOO TRAUMATIZED to deal with what had really happened" Dr. Dick story?
    There's a why for ya lol WHY the hell are there these other assholes willing to lie for killers? The old hype when Sybil came out. Rocked the psych world, big breakthoughs, treatments changing across the county BS w ppl too traumatized so the theory flew, she created a few dozens give or take alters. pfft, years later you find out it was all BS lies from both her shrink and Sybil. Sybil wanted the comfort of the shrinks attention and the shrink loved the fame and money.
    It's the one answer fits all, crazy F'ing world!
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    [QUOTE=wasthinking;3395561]It's one of my favs. Did you ever read the book? The movie is available at target for five bucks. My old VHS died so I'm going to have to break down and replace that movie.

    I have never read the book! is it better than the movie? (they usually are). I love to read(explains why I'm up so late on here) I'm gonna have to get the book.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Not understanding this statement. Also, I don't recall many murders like this, other than the OJ case in the 90's, with multiple stabbings and near decapitation...how many diagnosed BPDs are there? millions? Not following your logic, sorry.
    What I am trying to say is the dx of BPD is one for which there is no cure. The dilemma with any personality disorder (actually any mental condition) is the brain lacks the ability to observe itself. It is not like a broken arm in which the person can look and say oh wow, my arm is broken. Although the dx predisposes her to anger and aggression, it is not the reason she killed travis. Other factors come into play. So Jodi is an outlier. Just like someone who dies from anesthesia or doesnt wake up. Doesnt happen all the time. But it does happen, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by olgasbunghole View Post
    damn you Iluvsam!!!!!!!!! I knew it was you!
    It wasn't me! I was in Kansas that weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iluvsam View Post
    It wasn't me! I was in Kansas that weekend!
    yeah right........... visiting Dorothy I suppose! that's the oldest story in the book!!!!

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    Ok jokes aside, I would love to read the communication between the psycho and Travis on May 26. I am very intrigued of what was the reason he was fed up. I wonder if someone has posted them online or they are sealed.
    What I cannot understand is how the judge allowed Travis' messages to be allowed, but not her, that is BS!!!

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    my eye's sting, I've gotta go to sleep............. night all, you guys are great!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    What I am trying to say is the dx of BPD is one for which there is no cure. The dilemma with any personality disorder (actually any mental condition) is the brain lacks the ability to observe itself. It is not like a broken arm in which the person can look and say oh wow, my arm is broken. Although the dx predisposes her to anger and aggression, it is not the reason she killed travis. Other factors come into play. So Jodi is an outlier. Just like someone who dies from anesthesia or doesnt wake up. Doesnt happen all the time. But it does happen, right?
    That helps, thanks!

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    [QUOTE=olgasbunghole;3395569]
    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    It's one of my favs. Did you ever read the book? The movie is available at target for five bucks. My old VHS died so I'm going to have to break down and replace that movie.

    I have never read the book! is it better than the movie? (they usually are). I love to read(explains why I'm up so late on here) I'm gonna have to get the book.
    yes the book was great and a lot different. Movie codes in the old days brought many changes to the movie. The book from movie changes back then were the talk of the town and often greatly critized.
    But then so was the book. March throws out his personal jabs a shrinks 'Freuds', mades one character a homosexual [imagine how brave that was for the 50s] and most of all as books are never like movies, the ending is different! Been years since I borrow it out and didn't get it back, but I remember enjoying it very much.
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    Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kdon View Post
    Some of you may be familiar with the newspaper "the Onion". Whenever ppl post comments on here from the JAII site that's what I think of. It's like there's no way that the comments are real because they're so rediculous
    I completely agree. I said something similar about that whole thing with death photos & "justice being served". It sounds SO much like E.D. If you check out all the Jodi Arias twitter accounts, there's one that proclaimed her innocence for ages, but was shut down late march with E.D links plastered all over it. The announcement they were shutting it down included something along the lines off "I can't believe how gullible you people are, as if I think that bitch is innocent".

    Now we have a thread about malware etc issues relating to JAII? Could it be that if people really are getting viruses, spyware or whatever after visits to JAII, it's because like the twitter account, it was set up for the express purpose of attracting her supporters & laughing at them? It's just too extreme. Real support sites avoid contentious issues because they want to support, not inflame. They try to calm things down using reasoning & logic to convince people to look deeper. That site does more damage to Jodi than all the Travis support sites combined!

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