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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Jodi forgot to lower her chair this morning.

    As for Wilmott, I think she has to attack the credentials because Dr. DeMarte said a lot of things that were damaging to Jodi yesterday; including bringing out the email where Jodi herself admitted to violent behavior, bashing walls, etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Not ridiculous, totally appropriate and her job as a defense atty. Martinez would be doing exactly the same thing if he was doing the cross-exam (except his would be more effective) and you would be jumping up and down cheering him on.
    I agree. Her job is to discredit this witness, and honestly, the only thing she's got is the witness's age and experience. it's fair game. I honestly do not think this line of questioning is going to hurt DeMarte. She's very professional and intelligent.

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    This is true. I think though, CV's can be padded with ridiculousness the same as a resume. Longer doesn't always mean better.
    Very true.

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    (That's what she said.)


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    Yeah, Willmott was being a b*tch. Plain and simple. She came across as jealous at times. Very immature and unprofessional. She kept trying to trip DeMarte up, but was unsuccessful, and yet still tried to claim it. She looked like a fool.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sylvian View Post
    No I would not be jumping up and down and cheering him on. It was not appropriate, hand on her hip calling the Doctor out as being too young and inexperienced? She couldn't even get her facts straight, kept pausing, was unorganised.
    I don't think JW was being a bitch yesterday, any more than I think that JM was being an asshole when he was questioning the defense witnesses. They both have a job to do: discredit the witnesses in whatever way they can. I have to wonder if people thought that JW was being a "bitch" in part because she's female, and when females are aggressive, they are labeled bitches, whereas when males are being aggressive, it's applauded.

    In any case, no, she's not as good at is as JM. Maybe because it's not really her forte, maybe because she wasn't prepared, maybe because aggressiveness comes off on females as bitchiness. I don't know. BUT, I can't blame her for trying to discredit the witness because 1. it's her job, and 2. the age and experience of the witness is pretty much all she's got to attack her with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    Twins fascinate me. Jodi's mom is vulnerable bordering on fragile. Jodi's friends dont seem to be the "type" of people that would be supportive of momma. Instead, they are high and giggling uncontrollably or jail fed cons who are looking for notoriety. Momma's twin protects her. And she needs that protection IMO. No amount of money could motivate me to be momma arias. (well, maybe lots of money) Maybe auntie or someone always served in this role? Lord knows her husband has a histrionic streak and scoops up the attention. I could go on and on...
    I feel bad for Jodi's Mom, I always have. I would not want to be in her shoes for anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by leighmarker View Post
    just found it interesting yesterday that Dr. D attitude didnt change when JW started in on her, she seemed pretty much the same as she was when JM was up. IMO Vast difference w/the rest of the "experts".
    Agreed.
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    Eww, JW is being one of those "sneaky bitches". She tries to come off "nice" but there are very strong undertones of bitchiness. Either be nice or be a straight-up bitch. The sneaky bitches are the worst.

    To be fair I'm sure she is not a bitch outside of the courtroom...

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Jodi forgot to lower her chair this morning.

    As for Wilmott, I think she has to attack the credentials because Dr. DeMarte said a lot of things that were damaging to Jodi yesterday; including bringing out the email where Jodi herself admitted to violent behavior, bashing walls, etc.
    I think Nurmi took the wrong one lol

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    I am really appreciating the cut down in delays this week. I want to assume its because the prosecution is up now but maybe judge sherry decided she really needed to move this thing along as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    I think she got her back up a few times and took a superior attitude to Wilmott. There were a few snarky and deliberately obtuse responses... straight out of the Arias playbook, actually. Pretty much everybody gets difficult under cross.
    I didn't see any snarky or obtuse yesterday, but she did come close to laughing at an extra stupid question of Jenny's once, and that seemed a tad unprofessional. However, in her defense, it was a really stupid question.

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    She's foreseeing JW trying to trick her up. JW seems a little rattled already. Anyone else feel this?

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    One year of licensure when she began to evaluate Jodi in Summer 2011...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    Just found the research cited by Demarte for Battered Woman Syndrome conducted by Leonore Walker. The instrument is called Battered Women Syndromequestionnaire (BWSQ) and was validated in the us and outside. Its been around since 1999. This again shows that Alyce is, shall we say, wanting as an expert. Her years of experience can not compete with her inability to use a reputable questionnaire. Instead, Alyce chose to sit at the jail for 6 or 7 hour clips talking to Jodi. Ugh! Her testimony putting aside her obvious bias is IMPEACHED.
    Alyce wants to be Lenore Walker. She just forgot about what happened to Walker after she was going to testify for OJ Simpson. Same thing as what's happening to her now.

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    Hi from the USA! In our court system it was completely appropriate. You'll notice that Wilmott's approach to cross exam is the same as Martinez. Start attacking the expert's credentials, experience, methods, findings.

    Willmott is no JM when it comes to cross, she already proved that during the state's case in chief

    I doubt that their personal feelings enter into this. They are paid and sworn to do a job, and if they tank because of personal bias, there are serious repercussions. On top of that, they are criminal defense attorneys. They care about doing good work for their clients.

    Agree with that



    This is Wilmott's signature style and it also doesn't change from witness to witness. She is not a strong speaker, or very good with language, so it's easy to underestimate her abilities.

    Willmott's signature style is to unprofessional and unprepared? She waaay oversold her opening statement



    I think she got her back up a few times and took a superior attitude to Wilmott. There were a few snarky and deliberately obtuse responses... straight out of the Arias playbook, actually. Pretty much everybody gets difficult under cross.

    It seemed to me that Willmott was being the obtuse and deliberately snarky one and she's continuing this path this morning. It's unbecoming and she can't pull it off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    Alyce chose to sit at the jail for 6 or 7 hour clips talking to Jodi. Ugh! Her testimony putting aside her obvious bias is IMPEACHED.
    so Alyce did NO testing? She could have given tests (would have had to have someone else score the test) but chose not to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    I didn't see any snarky or obtuse yesterday, but she did come close to laughing at an extra stupid question of Jenny's once, and that seemed a tad unprofessional. However, in her defense, it was a really stupid question.
    When JW first started to question her, Dr looked and sounded pissed. Or I thought anyway.

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    Is this what they're talking about?

    http://therapists.psychologytoday.co...Arizona_136525

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    OMG BOMBSHELL! Someone who runs a business advertises it!

    I wonder if Wilmott has a website and an ad in the Yellow Pages? I'm betting yes.


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    Jenny went home and started googling Demarte!

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    What is the point of the money.. shes not ripping off the state like the other 2 "experts"

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Hi from the USA! In our court system it was completely appropriate. You'll notice that Wilmott's approach to cross exam is the same as Martinez. Start attacking the expert's credentials, experience, methods, findings.


    I think she got her back up a few times and took a superior attitude to Wilmott. There were a few snarky and deliberately obtuse responses... straight out of the Arias playbook, actually. Pretty much everybody gets difficult under cross.
    Ya...her cross exam was like Martinez' - sort of. She tried...yet she sucked-@ss at it. I watched it last night and cringed for her (somewhat embarrassed) for the first 10-15 mins then got super irritated with her bitchiness. It was uncalled for and it made her look really stupid.

    Dr. Demarte did get a little snarky, but I saw it more as defensive...and rightfully so. Wilmott was attacking her (or trying her darndest to) and it was inappropriate. And I didn't see Wilmott's approach as being strategic, I was seeing it as being straight-up bitch mode and trying to get back at JM- LAME and unprofessional. Anybody in their right mind would have done what Dr. D did.

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    Completed 2 cases so far... I'm impressed!

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    I think she's doing good

    and lmao @ Jenny googling her name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    OMG BOMBSHELL! Someone who runs a business advertises it!

    I wonder if Wilmott has a website and an ad in the Yellow Pages? I'm betting yes.
    http://willmottlaw.com/attorneys.html

    and so does alyce and so did dr dick - where he said he provides positive outcomes - but he took it down when he finished testifying

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    JW is being nosy. Making sure money is brought up etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    OMG BOMBSHELL! Someone who runs a business advertises it!

    I wonder if Wilmott has a website and an ad in the Yellow Pages? I'm betting yes.
    What this? http://www.willmottlaw.com/

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    Willmutt doesn't even know she should STOP this now! She is bolstering JD's credibilty!

    And after her direct yesterday, this only serves to help the Jury to trust her opinion!

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    Sorry Jen love but you're not going to make this woman look biased.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfy View Post
    What is the point of the money.. shes not ripping off the state like the other 2 "experts"
    I don't get it either. Dr. D interviewed Jodi for 12 hours at $300. Alyce interviewed Jodi for 44 hours @ $300.

    So we're talking $3,600 for Dr D and $13, 200 for Alyce.

    That's not even mentioning Alyce's week-plus on the stand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    so Alyce did NO testing? She could have given tests (would have had to have someone else score the test) but chose not to?
    Alyce is not qualified to give tests.

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    JW is being nosy. Making sure money is brought up etc.
    That's fair game.
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