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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    I hope she says something about how she mirrors people.
    She did! Using Darryl's (OG) ex wife AS AN EXAMPLE
    http://mydeathspace.com/vb/signaturepics/sigpic83661_1.gif

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    Just got home a short while ago. Trying to catch up now. Thank you all, in advance, for posts and updates! I will say that Dr. Demarte comes across as very articulate and well spoken. She's quite likable, as far as I can see. So glad we are in rebuttal! Whoot whoot

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsather View Post
    I wish someone in the jury would whip a tennis ball and drill Jodi in the head. Stupid ass.
    That would be so funny.

    I totally want this lady to be my therapist.
    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    She transitioned from a stupid asshole to a dumb bitch.

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    This witness is awesome!

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    she dyed her hair and bought the same car as OG's wife so she could be like her - wow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bsather View Post
    I wish someone in the jury would whip a tennis ball and drill Jodi in the head. Stupid ass.
    I can't tell if she's acting or if she's just checked out.

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    This is a great day. I actually feel like my head has cleared from all the Defense witnesses and questioning. Thank you Dr. DeMarte. Stabby just cannot look at her, and JW looks like she is learning something.

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    See I tole you all
    "Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; They listen with the intent to reply." ~ anonymous
    "Keep calm and sing Soft Kitty"
    "it is what it is!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    I hope she says something about how she mirrors people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    She did! Using Darryl's (OG) ex wife AS AN EXAMPLE
    I wonder if she will say that Jodi dying her hair brown was mirroring Mimi Hall? I've felt this way from the beginning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Can I just say I appreciate that this testimony is on the defendant? So far we haven't heard a word about Travis.
    Great point!
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Home early from work, trying to catch up!

    Sorry, Im sure this has been asked before but does the defense get a chance to talk to this witness?
    Down in a hole, feelin' so small
    Down in a hole, losin' control
    I'd like to fly,
    But my wings have been so denied

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    she dyed her hair and bought the same car as OG's wife so she could be like her - wow!
    Didn't she get boobies too

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I wonder if she will say that Jodi dying her hair brown was mirroring Mimi Hall? I've felt this way from the beginning.
    Reminds me of Norman Bates in Psycho. He dressed up as his dead mom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImBatman! View Post
    See I tole you all
    ding ding ding ding!!!

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    Hi All, just got home and turned on the trial and MDS site. For now I will say there is quite a change in Jodi's personna in court today. Love this rebuttal witness. She is very well spoken and really appears to know her stuff. Go Juan, this is so great for a change vs the defense BS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    she dyed her hair and bought the same car as OG's wife so she could be like her - wow!
    that is so insane

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Jodi is "strange, immature and aberrant".

    This witness is great!
    strange, immature and aberrant, oh my!

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    OMG!!! For the very first time in a LONG time in this trial, I have a smile on my face!!!! This witness is finally saying out loud, what this whole thread has been wishing would get brought up! I'm happy this was all saved for the very end! I know we still have cross, re-direct and jury Q&A with all the rebuttal witnesses...but I like where this is heading right now!!! Keep it up Juan!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by UncomfortablyNumb View Post
    Oh fuck....borderline personality disorder? I just text my bf and told him that I have the same diagnosis as a murderer and he needs to start locking the door when he showers.
    LMFAO, ME TOO! HA HA... IM SCEERED NOW... NOT

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    Is it just me or does the DT and their witnesses take forever to read? OMG, they are either just slow readers or going slowly on purpose. ALV took forever even after the 5 minutes she took just to get her glasses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    Didn't she get boobies too
    yes!!

    ruh roh donavan looks worried - and i think jodi is working on an insane plea

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImBatman! View Post
    Boom....Borderline Personality Disorder!!! I feel very validated!
    You called that one Imbatman :) Great Job

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishmich View Post
    I can't tell if she's acting or if she's just checked out.
    Totally acting. They're talking about HER...so there is no way she would avoid listening to somebody talk about her. Even if it is in a negative light.

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    I wonder if Darryl's ex was a platinum blonde then?

    Does anyone know who the orange-colored woman with the platinum hair seated behind Jodi's mom is?


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    Borderline Personality Disorder DSM IV Criteria


    A pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:

    1. frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment. Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.

    2. a pattern of unstable and intense interpersonal relationships characterized by alternating between extremes of idealization and devaluation.

    3. identity disturbance: markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self.

    4. impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (e.g., spending, sex, substance abuse, reckless driving, binge eating). Note: Do not include suicidal or self-mutilating behavior covered in Criterion 5.

    5. recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior

    6. affective instability due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days).

    7. chronic feelings of emptiness

    8. inappropriate, intense anger or difficulty controlling anger (e.g., frequent displays of temper, constant anger, recurrent physical fights)

    9. transient, stress-related paranoid ideation or severe dissociative symptoms

    The essential feature of Borderline Personality Disorder is a pervasive pattern of instability of interpersonal relationships, self-image, and affects, and marked impulsivity that begins by early adulthood and is present in a variety of contexts.

    Individuals with Borderline Personality Disorder make frantic efforts to avoid real or imagined abandonment (Criterion 1). The perception of impending separation or rejection, or the loss of external structure, can lead to profound changes in self-image, affect, cognition, and behavior. These individuals are very sensitive to environmental circumstances. They experience intense abandonment fears and inappropriate anger even when faced with a realistic time-limited separation or when there are unavoidable changes in plans (e.g. sudden despair in reaction to a clinician?s announcing the end of the hour; panic of fury when someone important to them is just a few minutes late or must cancel an appointment). They may believe that this "abandonment" implies they are "bad." These abandonment fears are related to an intolerance of being alone and a need to have other people with them. Their frantic efforts to avoid abandonment may include impulsive actions such as self-mutilating or suicidal behaviors, which are described separately in Criterion 5.

    Individuals with Borderline Personality Disorder have a pattern of unstable and intense relationships (Criterion 2). They may idealize potential caregivers or lovers at the first or second meeting, demand to spend a lot of time together, and share the most intimate details early in a relationship. However, they may switch quickly from idealizing other people to devaluing them, feeling that the other person does not care enough, does not give enough, is not "there" enough. These individuals can empathize with and nurture other people, but only with the expectation that the other person will "be there" in return to meet their own needs on demand. These individuals are prone to sudden and dramatic shifts in their view of others, who may alternately be seen as beneficent supports or as cruelly punitive. Such shifts often reflect disillusionment with a caregiver who nurturing qualities had been idealized or whose rejection or abandonment is expected.

    There may be an identity disturbance characterized by markedly and persistently unstable self-image or sense of self (Criterion 3). There are sudden and dramatic shifts in self-image, characterized by shifting goals, values, and vocational aspirations. There may be sudden changes in opinions and plans about career, sexual identity, values, and types of friends. These individuals may suddenly change from the role of a needy supplicant for help to a righteous avenger of past mistreatment. Although they usually have a self-image that is based on being bad or evil, individuals with this disorder may at times have feelings that they do not exist at all. Such experiences usually occur in situations in which the individual feels a lack of meaningful relationship, nurturing and support. These individuals may show worse performance in unstructured work or school situations.

    Individuals with this disorder display impulsivity in at least two areas that are potentially self-damaging (Criterion 4). They may gamble, spend money irresponsibly, binge eat, abuse substances, engage in unsafe sex, or drive recklessly. Individuals with Borderline Personality Disorder display recurrent suicidal behavior, gestures, or threats, or self-mutilating behavior (Criterion 5). Completed suicide occurs in 8%-10% of such individuals, and self-mutilative acts (e.g., cutting or burning) and suicide threats and attempts are very common. Recurrent suicidality is often the reason that these individuals present for help. These self-destructive acts are usually precipitated by threats of separation or rejection or by expectations that they assume increased responsibility. Self-mutilation may occur during dissociative experiences and often brings relief by reaffirming the ability to feel or by expiating the individual?s sense of being evil.

    Individuals with Borderline Personality Disorder may display affective instability that is due to a marked reactivity of mood (e.g., intense episodic dysphoria, irritability, or anxiety usually lasting a few hours and only rarely more than a few days) (Criterion 6). The basic dysphoric mood of those with Borderline Personality Disorder is often disrupted by periods of anger, panic, or despair and is rarely relieved by periods of well-being or satisfaction. These episodes may reflect the individual?s extreme reactivity troubled by chronic feelings of emptiness (Criterion 7). Easily bored, they may constantly seek something to do. Individuals with Borderline Personality Disorder frequently express inappropriate, intense anger or have difficulty controlling their anger (Criterion 8). They may display extreme sarcasm, enduring bitterness, or verbal outbursts. The anger is often elicited when a caregiver or lover is seen as neglectful, withholding, uncaring, or abandoning. Such expressions of anger are often followed by shame and guilt and contribute to the feeling they have of being evil. During periods of extreme stress, transient paranoid ideation or dissociative symptoms (e.g., depersonalization) may occur (Criterion 9), but these are generally of insufficient severity or duration to warrant an additional diagnosis. These episodes occur most frequently in response to a real or imagined abandonment. Symptoms tend to be transient, lasting minutes or hours. The real or perceived return of the caregiver?s nurturance may result in a remission of symptoms.


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