Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[TupeloHoney]

Every time you guys talk about Hodi's dark soulless eyes, like a dolls eyes..I hear the voice of Capt. Quint.."lifeless black eyes like a doll's eyes..'til he bites you, then they roll over white.."

Here's to swimming with bowlegged women :D

[wasthinking]

right... it almost became like a Cottage Industry... add to her flippant attitude the fact that she proactively argues that Males being abused is a myth (she literally calls it that) She is outcome oriented and fits the "facts" to fill a pre-exising formula.

see: Alyce LaViolette, M.S., MFCC Women Studies Encyclopedia: ?The Battered Husband Syndrome and Other Myths?

Perfect desccription. Damn charlatans! Abused men is a real and serious issue just beginning to get some attention and support. But, our society has a long way to go :( And assholes like Alyce do great harm adding to the problems. It reminds me of old days when they labeled epileptics posessed by demons.

[Morticia]

The link to the photos is here. They are the library of a user on photo bucket by the name of "forwinteriscoming" and they are listed for public viewing.
BE WARNED...VERY DISTURBING AND GRAPHIC PHOTOS

http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/fo...brary/?page=1:

Thanks AnnieBelle (I think)....I had seen some photos before, but OMFG, those are heartbreaking.

Couldn't rep ya again........would if I could.

[Cocopop]

What is Stabby doing under her jacket? It's on her lap.

Why does Jodi have her blazer on backwards, and can someone from the gallery run over quick and tie it in back?

people are tweeting jodi hid a pen when she put her jacket like that ???

if she did, she's stashed it in her "prison pocket" by now!

Pics or it didnt happen... Or something like that lol. I was watching her, I didnt see her take anything off the table, that doesnt mean she didnt, but I would think there would be pictures popping up everywhere of it just liek the paper she shoved under her leg. unless she is getting better?

~~ JODI & her Sneaky Antics ~~
Times used below are approxomate & video showing these is included (see bottom of post)

• 0:12:00 atty's approach JA takes her yellow note book from in front of her & moves it over to her right side of the table
• 0:12:04 Blurry but you can see blue arrow to a blue binder & yellow arrow to notebook being moved & set down to JA's right {pic below}
  
• 0:12:13 - 0:12:23 JA is not in camera's view
• 0:12:23 You can see there is NO yellow notebook on the right corner in front of the blue binder (I believe she put it in her lap, already, her left arm under table, you can see her fidgeting around with it under the table while the camera stays on her thru 0:12:39) {pic below}
  
• 0:12:39 - 0:12:48 JA is not in camera's view
• 0:12:50 Atty's on way back from approach, JA still has notebook on lap & waits til both Nurmi & Willmott return before she pulls it back up on table, before she is caught.
• 0:12:55 JA moves yellow notebook from under the table to the desk ... you can see she had a pencil in her left hand while it was under the table as well. {pic below}
  
• 0:39:16 JA seems to drop something to her left (her black, white trimmed blazer is strapped over the left arm of her chair)

TY to croakerqueen123 for youtube video

{{ PS. I went golfing today, so I didn't get to watch live coverage, I looked and didn't see pics already posted of this, IF they were already, I am sorry. I haven't yet watched the trail after 2:45 AZ time. I am watching now, as I see previous posts having to do with JA's black blazer }}

ALSO ->BIG Shout Out to Faq_q & Poppycock representing this MDS thread by being there!!

[AnnieBelle]

OMG these are brutal...I couldn't get past the first page. More nightmare material. Can't unsee them, or the praying mantis Jodi pic either. Maybe I'll just stay up all night instead and try to think happy thoughts. Or watch YouTube videos of puppies and babies...jeesh!

They are the most disturbing photos that I have seen, so far. Not for the feint of heart, for sure.

[summersfun08]

So, I know it's late but I have to catch up on croakerquenn's YouTube but I've noticed a lady sitting next to the mitigation specialist. Is she the white towel?

[Brillig]

Okay, we've pretty much established that Alyce is DESPICABLE, Willmott is OMG SOO ANNOYING and Juan is AWESOME...the last 25 pages or so have been variations of those 3 points. Is anyone interested in talking about where we stand in the trial? Just in case anyone is, here are my humble observations...

Martinez has continued to maintain admirable self-control, props for that! He has established that ALV is biased in choosing what she believes and what she does not, and bases her conclusions from a biased point of view in favor of Jodi. Aso, she based her BWS dx largely from interviews with Jodi and Jodi's journals, both of which have been shown to be untruthful (to say the least.)

Agreed on these points. And while Juan's "more intense" style never bothered me at all, if it bothered some people (perhaps including jurors), and if those people are better able to appreciate the points he is making when he dials back the intensity, then that works for me too.

I'm not sure why he emphasized TA's IM where he says he is 'extremely afraid' of Jodi, knowing that TA joked in the same IM about this, and IM'd Jodi several times that same day. Also, the phone sex tape was made just 9 days prior to this.

Just like the DT wants to get in statements that appear to support Jodi's version of things, Juan wants to get in any statements that appear to support the prosecutions version. So if juror X will be more convinced because he heard "Travis said he was afraid", then Juan might as well get it in there. Dot all the Is and cross all the Ts.

Also not sure why Willmott chose to dwell on Jodi's journal entries, arguing that just because she didn't write about TA's 'abuse' doesn't mean it didn't happen. Has the jury seen the journal entries from after the murder where she writes 'OMG I just heard Travis is dead' etc. etc? I don't remember if those were shown at trial or not. If so I wouldn't waste any time on the journals, on either side.

I think the fact that none of the alleged abuse by Travis was ever referenced in ANY way in the journals is huge, so Willmott had to address it. For someone who journals endlessly about every facet of her life to leave out something so big is bizarre. The final nail for me, is that not only did Jodi not say "Oh my god, I found out Travis is a pedophile and he physically attacked me as well and hurled me to the floor and kicked me and broke my finger", she does not give a veiled version either (no "wow, life can be shocking and scary at times, do we really know anyone?")... but the most telling part of all, is that Jodi DOES write "nothing important at all to report" about that period of time. Which is absurd. Even if she wants to make sure she does not 'de-edify' Travis, actually emphasizing that nothing at all happened during that time is nonsensical and beyond belief.

Last but not least, I think the emails, texts and IMs are a problem...they don't lie, and they show Travis had a nasty temper, even rage on some of them, and was verbally abusive. Does that explain or justify the overkill? Not to me, but suppose there is a JAII type on the jury, or someone who has experienced abuse in their life...could this resonate with someone like that and/or plant that 'seed of doubt' that maybe Jodi was in fear for her life that day? I wonder...someone on hln said that the defense isn't going for a home run here, they are going for punts and singles, chipping away. I agree and it worries me.

It is a problem. Some of those comments in the long text exchange were quite mean. However, I think Juan is doing a good job of showing that at least some of them were true. Sociopath? Yep. Only cries for self? Yep. Worst thing that ever happened to Travis? Yep. So while they do not make Travis look like a choir boy, I think they seem totally justified and right on the money. Hopefully the jury will think so too.

I wish Juan was able to tell what exactly Jodi did or said that was the final straw for Travis and led to that barrage of texts. I would assume it had to be big, for Travis to feel SO totally betrayed. There has been speculation (threatened to blackmail him with sex tape? hacked his accounts again?), but we don't know, and it would help so much if we did.

[Iluvsam]

The link to the photos is here. They are the library of a user on photo bucket by the name of "forwinteriscoming" and they are listed for public viewing.
BE WARNED...VERY DISTURBING AND GRAPHIC PHOTOS

http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/fo...brary/?page=1:

Oh my God, those are horrible pictures. How could she did something like that to another human being?

[olgasbunghole]

The link to the photos is here. They are the library of a user on photo bucket by the name of "forwinteriscoming" and they are listed for public viewing.
BE WARNED...VERY DISTURBING AND GRAPHIC PHOTOS

http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/fo...brary/?page=1:

thank you for the link, the photos speak volumes of the absolutely barbaric attack that that monstrosity of a human being inflicted on Travis! I just can't comprehend how the defenses so called "experts" can believe that this was self defense!!!!!

[AntBubsy]

The link to the photos is here. They are the library of a user on photo bucket by the name of "forwinteriscoming" and they are listed for public viewing.
BE WARNED...VERY DISTURBING AND GRAPHIC PHOTOS

http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/fo...brary/?page=1:

Jesus! Some of the autopsy pics I had not seen before. More gruesome and horrific than any of the other ones I have seen. She needs to die

[wasthinking]

Are people not allowed to become angry over something someone has done? Does that automatically label someone angry as being verbally abusive? If that's the case, everyone I know, including myself has at some point been verbally abusive. It's not a pattern; it's not a character flaw....it's a circumstance. We don't know what set him off. If we do, I missed it. When you look at the whole picture, a day of anger, or even rage as you state, does not make or break the case. And by the way, what is so scary about an IM? It couldn't have been that scary since she still took a trip there. Did he threaten her in those IM's? Since I have not read them (can't find them anywhere), I don't know that he did. It seems folks tend to focus on the testimony last heard. I don't think Miss Alyce is a make-or-break.

exactly, it's all smoke screens some buy from the defense to divert from the murder. They are counting on harsh, unfair human judgment against others for anything that distract from this murder. Make Travis' life less valuable and save the killer. pfft This isn't about IMs or penis pics or Sticks n Stones, although they love their dirty tactics are working on some. I have chosen to believe this AZ jury won't fall for the cheap tricks and get lost in the forest. This was Overkill, premeditated murder.

[faq_q]

i am looking for you, but so far this is all i found , so far they aren't showing the gallery, did you get there when the session started when alyce's phone go off or earlier

That is me! Well, half of me. I need to watch the feed and see. I was holding my hand over my mouth to make sure that no one at work could see me. Thought that no one could recognize me if I did that. I was there when ALV phone went off, court person took it out right past me.

[wasthinking]

According to this person who posted on twitter, any/all of us could be Jodi. http://jessicaknight82.wordpress.com...vis-alexander/

She's sure got some issues.





Yep, Jodi fans are definitely unbalanced. The funny thing is, they tell themselves that what they are doing -- be it stalking, or apparently in this girl's case, cutting brake lines -- that that is just something normal to think about and do, and everyone would do it.

Just, wow.

inside the mind of a criminal.

[PopRocks]

no amount of treatment that jodi received from travis justifies the way she acted on the day she killed him

its absolutely brutal what she did to him

[Morticia]

I was there, right after I wrote that and saw faq's post I went over to this guy in a blue shirt, and said are you faq q? It was and we were chatting and some lady over heard and she is an MDS lurker. It was a real adventure for me, I am sure I will go again with a friend who thought I was going tomorrow, I cant go on Thursdays so went ahead and blazed the trail. If anyone wants details on address, courtroom, parking and so on pm me. More later, still unwinding. Got home at 6, traffic was awful. And I got stuck in a stairwell!

@Poppycock, I've been chuckling all evening about your post. Imagine if you'd asked another random guy in a blue shirt if he was "Faq-q"? LMAOF!! That was great.

[Brillig]

This case is like crack.

Yes, it certainly is.

I you for always finding the right pictures for my words.

We all need a vocation.

OMG these are brutal...I couldn't get past the first page. More nightmare material. Can't unsee them, or the praying mantis Jodi pic either. Maybe I'll just stay up all night instead and try to think happy thoughts. Or watch YouTube videos of puppies and babies...jeesh!

I know, right? I am dead serious when I say I am going to be haunted by that praying mantis pic of Jodi that Berm posted. It keeps popping into my mind...

Here's to swimming with bowlegged women :D

Thanks for posting that Jaws clip, Tupelo! The line about the "black eyes... like a dolls eyes" just describes Jodi so perfectly.

[olgasbunghole]

I'm not down with this.

Laviolette is proven to be a piss poor witness. Laviolette was given limited information, we find out, and made a bad choice joining this defense -- I've made some bad choices.

But she has done years of good work educating & counseling around domestic violence, which is a significant problem in our society.

She goes into a room with abusers and changes some of their ways.

Alyce has earned a good bit of derision from her association with Arias -- and she's getting it, look at those Amazon reviews. I think that's enough, and hope she'll learn from this mess.

Just my opinion.

Do you even understand the emotional abuse that ALV is inflicting upon Travis' family? It is unforgivable and shows her true character! ALV is simply reaping what she has sewn!

[dizzyp]

Perfect desccription. Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
right... it almost became like a Cottage Industry... add to her flippant attitude the fact that she proactively argues that Males being abused is a myth (she literally calls it that) She is outcome oriented and fits the "facts" to fill a pre-exising formula.

see: Alyce LaViolette, M.S., MFCC Women Studies Encyclopedia: ?The Battered Husband Syndrome and Other Myths? Damn charlatans! Abused men is a real and serious issue just beginning to get some attention and support. But, our society has a long way to go :( And assholes like Alyce do great harm adding to the problems. It reminds me of old days when they labeled epileptics posessed by demons.

right... or the "devil-worshiping-child-molestors-in-every-pre-school" hysteria starting with the McMartin's in the 80's

[Angiebla]

Jesus! Some of the autopsy pics I had not seen before. More gruesome and horrific than any of the other ones I have seen. She needs to die

I agree with you, she deserves the death penalty. Not only did she murder a vulnerable man (being naked and wet) she also has no remorse for that crime. She a dangerous person who I believe would kill again if she had the chance.

[jogreen]

Better pic

[Morticia]

Judging by Enormi's body language lately, I think he's daydreaming about the good old days of defending pedos.

[jogreen]

That is me! Well, half of me. I need to watch the feed and see. I was holding my hand over my mouth to make sure that no one at work could see me. Thought that no one could recognize me if I did that. I was there when ALV phone went off, court person took it out right past me.

Page 276 has the whole galley. Sorry I'm new here and new to iPad or I'd repost for you.

[wasthinking]

so true! a double edged sword.... Jodi is still (though a mental genuis) a "teenager" in terms of maturity...
"I know you are, but what am I????"

really! I wish I had a dollar every time I think this same thing. What makes her lethal is she has manipulating smarts of a psycho with emotions of a bratty teen. Makes for one vindictive murdering bitch.
I'm looking forward to the take on her from the State's shrink.

[dizzyp]

The link to the photos is here. They are the library of a user on photo bucket by the name of "forwinteriscoming" and they are listed for public viewing.
BE WARNED...VERY DISTURBING AND GRAPHIC PHOTOS

http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/fo...brary/?page=1:

gruesome.. can you or someone tell me what we are looking at in this photo: http://s1352.photobucket.com/user/fo...tml?sort=3&o=1

[olgasbunghole]

exactly, it's all smoke screens some buy from the defense to divert from the murder. They are counting on harsh, unfair human judgment against others for anything that distract from this murder. Make Travis' life less valuable and save the killer. pfft This isn't about IMs or penis pics or Sticks n Stones, although they love their dirty tactics are working on some. I have chosen to believe this AZ jury won't fall for the cheap tricks and get lost in the forest. This was Overkill, premeditated murder.

absolutely agreed!