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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    Just after placing the phone, the subject is the torn out pages. Jodi told her Travis was reading the now torn out page, made her rip it out because of the negative things she wrote. Really? It would have eliminated what was on the back side of the page too. One was Oct 21, another in June. I think it was something she personally wrote, but it would have been incriminating to herself.
    Yep, very important. Dear Diary, I'm going to have to teach that brat Travis a lesson about getting mad at me. If I can't have Travis ... none of those other bitches will! He's going to learn about my favorite movie scene from 'Psycho'. Brat will pay.

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    I wonder what would have happened if this witness had to face a female from the State instead of a male. A strong, empowered female would throw her off her game completely.
    Or she would have given the jury something in the way of testimony on behalf of her client that was beneficial AND believable. Laviollette hates anything attached to a penis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Found this. She does look a bit like Simon...
    Thanks for the belly laugh!!

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    Mr Martinez, Mr Martinez, Mr Martinez, Mr Martinez, Mr Martinez, Mr Martinez.......................................Jus t thought I'd get you prepared for today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saffron View Post
    I said the part about the trial today. My husband has no interest and I try not to bring up the subject with him, but I just wanted to tell someone about it at that moment today.
    Oh, okay, I getcha now. My wife doesn't follow the trial too closely but I can sneak in tid bits here and there and she will show interest for about a half second. I told her about the testimony last night and she was like, "that's nice, can you make me another cocktail?"


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    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    Mr Martinez, Mr Martinez, Mr Martinez, Mr Martinez, Mr Martinez, Mr Martinez.......................................Jus t thought I'd get you prepared for today
    I honestly thought JM was going to wrap up with ALV yesterday. I'm hoping that he's done with her before lunch. Just makes getting re-direct over with sooner, then on to questions, then follow up (then hopefully no more questions!!) and then the defense can be done with this circus that THEY created!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rachael123 View Post
    Listen to me,You have to go or you will regret it.I know you tried but this time you will make it in.((((Hugs)))
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    Don't forget, Faq, that unfortunately the defense gets re-direct before the jury questions. UGhhhhhhh!
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    I, we implore you to go.......if you don't get in that courtroom, you'll regret it. Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.
    Okay, here is the scoop. My calendar is free for the afternoon. I sure wish I knew if I had to get there at noon and wait in line while everyone else is at lunch or if the afternoon sessions are easier to get into? Anyone? If I make it, I will be wearing a bright blue polo shirt and I have brown hair. That's about the best I can do for description. I wonder what the chances are of sitting on Travis side, probably not good.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I honestly thought JM was going to wrap up with ALV yesterday. I'm hoping that he's done with her before lunch. Just makes getting re-direct over with sooner, then on to questions, then follow up (then hopefully no more questions!!) and then the defense can be done with this circus that THEY created!
    While I am ready for him to wrap it up, hoping that faq_q does get to see him in action and come tell us about it would make it a bit more bearable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Okay, here is the scoop. My calendar is free for the afternoon. I sure wish I knew if I had to get there at noon and wait in line while everyone else is at lunch or if the afternoon sessions are easier to get into? Anyone? If I make it, I will be wearing a bright blue polo shirt and I have brown hair. That's about the best I can do for description. I wonder what the chances are of sitting on Travis side, probably not good.
    From what I hear, the line starts over right after the morning session, so if you get there at the end of the first session, you should be good. But you would have to sit on Jodi's side. The other side is reserved for Travis' family and media. Good luck!

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    the thought of JW getting back up there and redirecting Alyce makes me sick. She has been writing furiously questions all during cross-examination. Ther's gonna be alot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    Does Martinez have kids? Dude..rubs off when you are around kids all day like I am at school. Then I get home from work greeted by my own righteous dude-sters. I caught myself a few years ago when I went to manager of grocery store and said, "Dude, you just totally got ripped off!"
    I say "dude" all the time, even to my own little ones (who are under the age of 10)...I have been saying it since I was in high school though. Will never outgrow it. Maybe JM picked it up in high school or college too, or his buddies say it to each other over drinks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady MacBeth View Post
    the thought of JW getting back up there and redirecting Alyce makes me sick. She has been writing furiously questions all during cross-examination. Ther's gonna be alot.
    Yes. I'm really not looking forward to it either. Her objections got overruled most of the day yesterday so you know she's going to want to follow up on just about all of them.
    faq, I hope you get in but I have a feeling you're going to be there for this. I could be wrong though. I was wrong yesterday, thinking that JM was going to wrap it up before lunch. So I could be wrong again.
    Just hope if he takes all day today, that he's making powerful points

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    Quote Originally Posted by dianalyn View Post
    While I am ready for him to wrap it up, hoping that faq_q does get to see him in action and come tell us about it would make it a bit more bearable.
    Please, oh please, let that be true. I really don't want to listen to Palin drone on and on but I will if I have to I guess.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    From what I hear, the line starts over right after the morning session, so if you get there at the end of the first session, you should be good. But you would have to sit on Jodi's side. The other side is reserved for Travis' family and media. Good luck!
    Yeah, I heard the same thing. Maybe I can sit next to Juror Katie or whatever her name is. How annoying would that be? At least I would be guaranteed to be on TV.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Okay, here is the scoop. My calendar is free for the afternoon. I sure wish I knew if I had to get there at noon and wait in line while everyone else is at lunch or if the afternoon sessions are easier to get into? Anyone? If I make it, I will be wearing a bright blue polo shirt and I have brown hair. That's about the best I can do for description. I wonder what the chances are of sitting on Travis side, probably not good.
    Get there as soon as you can. The line for the afternoon session starts immediately after the morning peeps get in. (Some people even hold off for the afternoon session because they know they will see more testimony in the afternoon.) So if you get in the morning session doesn't guarantee you will get in the afternoon session because people have already started lining up outside. When dismissed for lunch, I literally had to run from the courtroom to the line outside (I know I know...I was laughing at myself too) to make sure I got a spot again in the afternoon. So ya...the earlier the better. You may have to wait a couple hours, but promise it's worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missmandy9 View Post
    Get there as soon as you can. The line for the afternoon session starts immediately after the morning peeps get in. (Some people even hold off for the afternoon session because they know they will see more testimony in the afternoon.) So if you get in the morning session doesn't guarantee you will get in the afternoon session because people have already started lining up outside. When dismissed for lunch, I literally had to run from the courtroom to the line outside (I know I know...I was laughing at myself too) to make sure I got a spot again in the afternoon. So ya...the earlier the better. You may have to wait a couple hours, but promise it's worth it.
    I can make it there right at noon, but that's probably about the best I can do. It looked like yesterday afternoon, there were quite a few empty seats out back?


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    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrianadalba View Post
    He spends too much time watching the jurors, that makes me nervous. He is trying to find another reason to dismiss more jurors.
    I keep seeing people post about Nurmi watching the jurors...can anyone tell me, are the jurors supposed to keep Poker faces on the whole time they are watching testimony?! I mean, isn't it natural to have an unconscious facial reaction sometimes? I can't imagine he would have the ability to kick off any juror just because of a facial tick. OR, perhaps he is he watching the jurors to see who is putting the questions into the basket, so he can keep track when they are actually read to Alyce?

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    What happened at Plum? And why would Jodi say OMG? I never heard this. Is it the guy who gave her $$

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    I keep seeing people post about Nurmi watching the jurors...can anyone tell me, are the jurors supposed to keep Poker faces on the whole time they are watching testimony?! I mean, isn't it natural to have an unconscious facial reaction sometimes? I can't imagine he would have the ability to kick off any juror just because of a facial tick. OR, perhaps he is he watching the jurors to see who is putting the questions into the basket, so he can keep track when they are actually read to Alyce?
    Oh wow. I hadn't thought of that. You're probably right. That has to be nerve wracking trying to write down a question and put it in the basket, if you can feel Nurmi's eyes watching you and he's probably writing down juror # and question # as they go in.

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    Think about it. This is probably the first time in her life that Jodi Arias has found herself in a position--here in the courtroom--where she is surrounded by people of achievement and stature in their respective communities. (No matter the opinion any one of us might have of that particular community.) She is surrounded by lawyers, psychologists, law enforcement professionals, other helping professionals, etc., and she is at the center and the focus of all of their attention. They are treating her as an equal and they speak of and to her with deference and respect. No question; right now, Jodi Arias is the most important person in a very important room. This ain't California Pizza Kitchen. From what we know of her sense of superiority and the disdain with which she has treated the people that constituted the former social/professional environment to which she had access, (unsophisticated parents and family, a dumb sister, grammatical illiterates, boring Mormons, loser boyfriends), she's got to be feeling that she's finally arrived at a place more suited to her natural gifts than any place she has ever been before. And she's loving it and it shows! She will revel in it as long as it lasts. Sure, the death penalty is lurking in the background, and then there is the temporary embarrassment of having had some of her more unsavory attributes and activities exposed to public view, but to her, those things are just minor aspects of being human. More naughty scandal than profound disgrace! You behavioral professionals on this thread can probably offer a pretty good explanation of how Jodi Arias craziness enables her to relegate those distractions to the background while she enjoys the moment. She can't keep herself from feeling that's she's a very special person in a very special group. She's embraced the visceral rewards and is consciously engaged in directing the process that promises more rewards every day. She can't be wasting time, nor does she appear to have any room, to feel anything about what she did to get here. Jodi (Einstein) Arias has finally come into her own! She's progressed right through to the end of her very own 'Continuum.' Don't tell Alyce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    I can make it there right at noon, but that's probably about the best I can do. It looked like yesterday afternoon, there were quite a few empty seats out back?
    If you can get there 5 mins before, that would be best so you can beat the morning spectators. As we all know, the judge is very prompt with her lunches and breaks. And spectators are not allowed to leave the courtroom until the judge says they are dismissed. (I was told they started that rule a while ago because people would leave the courtroom 5-10 mins before lunch just so they can get their spot in line.) And remember...all of this is from my experience when I was there mid-Feb...which seems like forever-ago, so things may be different now.

    I'm so excited you will be attending...can't wait to hear your observations!

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    Okay, here is the scoop. My calendar is free for the afternoon. I sure wish I knew if I had to get there at noon and wait in line while everyone else is at lunch or if the afternoon sessions are easier to get into? Anyone? If I make it, I will be wearing a bright blue polo shirt and I have brown hair. That's about the best I can do for description. I wonder what the chances are of sitting on Travis side, probably not good.
    I know Donovan was not in court for am session but was there after lunch. Please be careful, and hope you get in. Loving the bright blue polo shirt choice. Good luck Faq!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    I keep seeing people post about Nurmi watching the jurors...can anyone tell me, are the jurors supposed to keep Poker faces on the whole time they are watching testimony?! I mean, isn't it natural to have an unconscious facial reaction sometimes? I can't imagine he would have the ability to kick off any juror just because of a facial tick. OR, perhaps he is he watching the jurors to see who is putting the questions into the basket, so he can keep track when they are actually read to Alyce?
    From what I understand, you pretty much have to keep emotion and facial expressions to a minimum. Look at juror #5, I think she stood out and just got more attention. As for the juror questions, I wonder if Judge Sherry shuffles them up to keep it low key. I really want to know what JA is scribbling down in her notebook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    Think about it. This is probably the first time in her life that Jodi Arias has found herself in a position--here in the courtroom--where she is surrounded by people of achievement and stature in their respective communities. (No matter the opinion any one of us might have of that particular community.) She is surrounded by lawyers, psychologists, law enforcement professionals, other helping professionals, etc., and she is at the center and the focus of all of their attention. They are treating her as an equal and they speak of and to her with deference and respect. No question; right now, Jodi Arias is the most important person in a very important room. This ain't California Pizza Kitchen. From what we know of her sense of superiority and the disdain with which she has treated the people that constituted the former social/professional environment to which she had access, (unsophisticated parents and family, a dumb sister, grammatical illiterates, boring Mormons, loser boyfriends), she's got to be feeling that she's finally arrived at a place more suited to her natural gifts than any place she has ever been before. And she's loving it and it shows! She will revel in it as long as it lasts. Sure, the death penalty is lurking in the background, and then there is the temporary embarrassment of having had some of her more unsavory attributes and activities exposed to public view, but to her, those things are just minor aspects of being human. More naughty scandal than profound disgrace! You behavioral professionals on this thread can probably offer a pretty good explanation of how Jodi Arias craziness enables her to relegate those distractions to the background while she enjoys the moment. She can't keep herself from feeling that's she's a very special person in a very special group. She's embraced the visceral rewards and is consciously engaged in directing the process that promises more rewards every day. She can't be wasting time, nor does she appear to have any room, to feel anything about what she did to get here. Jodi (Einstein) Arias has finally come into her own! She's progressed right through to the end of her very own 'Continuum.' Don't tell Alyce.

    Great observation. I think JA has lost sight of the reason she is in this position. She seems so determined to play games and fight the little battles that arise like booting jurors. It will be a sobering moment when the verdict is announced, but I expect more of the same behavior in penalty phase. I do think she will be convicted of 1st degree murder, and predict she will enjoy the Victim Impact Statements. She will cry when and if her family takes stand to try to save her from DP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    I say "dude" all the time, even to my own little ones (who are under the age of 10)...I have been saying it since I was in high school though. Will never outgrow it. Maybe JM picked it up in high school or college too, or his buddies say it to each other over drinks?
    My kids call me dude-mom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper-Creeper View Post
    From what I understand, you pretty much have to keep emotion and facial expressions to a minimum. Look at juror #5, I think she stood out and just got more attention. As for the juror questions, I wonder if Judge Sherry shuffles them up to keep it low key. I really want to know what JA is scribbling down in her notebook.
    Thank you for your response. I would have a tough time being on a jury (as I've said before in this forum) just purely because I have a very tough time not showing emotion on my face...even when just reading a book. It's unfortunate that Juror #5 got herself bumped from the jury, but I sure hope it wasn't just because she stood out. That's quite unfair. I hope it was because of an action or something she said.

    Earlier in the trial, the judge mentioned she was reading the juror questions in the order they were received, which made me believe anyone could keep track of who was writing which question if they wanted to...I like your idea better (to mix them up to keep the jurors anonymous).

    I want to know what's in that notebook too!

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