Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[Tia111]

What about with a key stroke logger and some sort of remote connection?

Any computer geeks here?

I think she used a key stroke recorder, which is how she obtained his passwords. I'm sure he changed them and couldnt figure out how she would continue to have access. I never believed that they exchanged passwords. Most ppl would not agree to anything like this. If it were me I would be so creeped out if this had been brought up in conversation and it certainly would not build trust!

[Morticia]

Who the fuck writes a "manifesto" unless you're completely bat shit crazy? Unibomber and Chris Dorner come to mind and they most certainly were ripe for the Cuckoo's nest. Jodi may have been trying to feign madness as a back up to her Jodi 2.0 story. Einstein is just flat out hilarious. Has anyone seen the SNL skits where Kristin Wiig's character has to outdo anyone's comment by outlandish claims. Jodi is just like that, embellishing her image to outrageous extremes. People like her are exhausting and infuriating.

[AntBubsy]

How much do you want to bet Juan has a copy of Jodi's manifesto ready to open in court.

[gigiann]

Jodi ruins everything!

[queenaevadamthng]

Do ya'll think that if they took Hodi's paper and pencils away she would start doing like the Marquis De Sade did in that movie Quills and start writing in poo? I need the little nanner with the poop sign...

[AntBubsy]

In case you haven't seen ALV's CV, here it is.

http://www.alycelaviolette.com/Alyce-LaViolette-cv.pdf

[Peace Corpse]

Who the fuck writes a "manifesto" unless you're completely bat shit crazy? Unibomber and Chris Dorner come to mind and they most certainly were ripe for the Cuckoo's nest. Jodi may have been trying to feign madness as a back up to her Jodi 2.0 story. Einstein is just flat out hilarious. Has anyone seen the SNL skits where Kristin Wiig's character has to outdo anyone's comment by outlandish claims. Jodi is just like that, embellishing her image to outrageous extremes. People like her are exhausting and infuriating.

The only people who write manifestos after murdering others, are those who have driven themselves insane because the world or their own interpretation of it and their own experiences in it, are not what they want them to be. In other words, they want to change what they cannot change. And since, they have no emotional ( or consciousness ) pause buttons ( they have no conscience or guilt feelings at all- a different kind of human ) they cannot or will not comply. They just want the targets of their emotional upset to disappear. And so they make it happen, with no remorse. They feel better and that is all that matters to them. We, the rest of this world, don't exist.

[Sayub]

Fucking whatever, Sneakers! Manifestos are the new mobile phone. You need one to live, or you're just not one of the popular kids. The Book of Mormon was a mainfesto. The Secret was a manifesto. Now my book can take its rightful place next to them.



So what if I wrote up a short memoir called The Book Of The Prophet Jodi? BFD all you freaks! It was only a couple pages.



I ended up writing a little bit more about my early years, and then I had my team make some copies for everyone. LaViolette was like how are you going to pay for this, Jodi? I just said put it on my legal tab, State Of Arizona!

CV = Curriculum Vitae (list of professional experience and qualifications)



If there was evidence an attorney tried to set up a mistrial by doing something against the rules, then yes, they could get in big trouble. But as annoying as JW is, I don't think we have seen actual evidence of anything along that line. Filing a motion for a mistrial is not the same as conspiring to cause one.

As the trial got rolling I had the impression that Juan has had to keep a close eye on Nurmi for possible mistrial misconduct / conspiracy. I recall a few times when DT was questioning a defense witness that Juan objected, worried about potential problems but of course Nurmi called his concerns out as BS.

He?s made no secret of wanting off this case since day 1 so he can focus on his own practice but the longer the trial lasts the more he?s getting slammed personally & professionally. He?s watching the news coverage ? he knows he?s not the rock star.

[ImBatman!]

Oh my... I am still not caught up!
I can't multi quote a whole day...
First....Jodi ruins everyone's lives! First and foremost Travis, then her families, then the defense (I am not a Jodi supporter) their careers, any possible friends she may have had, and last but not least the experts (they were fine till they met Jodi).
As someone who has followed this case since almost day one...I feel very sorry for anyone who has to interact with this woman. I do humbly concede that she is one of the best manipulators I have ever witnessed, and I thought I was good! Travis never had a chance IMHO against this girl.

Second..I noticed some were saying that therapists and psychologist come from dysfunctional backgrounds. Not all of us. I had a very normal upbringing...did some very stupid stuff in my 20's due to normal unresolved issues with my family. My parents are wonderful people. Why my particular personality turned out the way it did... I don't even know. This is why I have conceded a bit in my dx of Jodi. Only because I started to apply her manipulations and coercions to my own. I can lie my way out of anything....and I would never commit a murder. Not all psychopaths/sociopaths are murderers. And one last point, if any of this made sense...I chose to specialize in anit-social and borderline personality disorders because I have very personal knowledge of each and it helped me to try and heal.

When I meant heal it was from others who I have experienced....like my ex...who I can almost for sure diagnose as a sociopath! I didn't know my own diagnosis until about 8 years ago....Im 42.

[ImBatman!]

PS..for all the new comers and folks who don't know me I am a dx sociopath...and yes most of you will say...scary enough a psychologist to boot!

[Sayub]

I swear JA gives Katie Wick dirty looks.

I'm sure she is. Katie's young, attractive, & has the rest of her life to look forward to. Jodi's got

[gigiann]

I am really getting creeped out looking at Jodi and Jen sitting next to each other looking like twins and whispering like BFF's.

Here is a question for you all: do you think Blonde Jodi was mirroring someone she might have known?

Isn't it pretty odd that Jodi remains friends with her Xs? And notice jodi has no female friends?

And one more thing...the reason ALaV normally witnesses for the prosecution is normally the defendant is a male and she wants to help put them away. It's a lot less common for a female to be a defendant in a murder case...so that's why she jumped on board this crazy train.

[gigiann]

OK goodnight all. I have to work on my manifesto. Night Tia!

[ImBatman!]

I am really getting creeped out looking at Jodi and Jen sitting next to each other looking like twins and whispering like BFF's.

Here is a question for you all: do you think Blonde Jodi was mirroring someone she might have known?

Isn't it pretty odd that Jodi remains friends with her Xs? And notice jodi has no female friends?

And one more thing...the reason ALaV normally witnesses for the prosecution is normally the defendant is a male and she wants to help put them away. It's a lot less common for a female to be a defendant in a murder case...so that's why she jumped on board this crazy train.

There have been a few screen shots of Jodi and Jennifer posted by my loves. Some of them are with Jodi next JW and one was of Jodi behind JW. The one of Jodi behind JW proved to me that she not only mirrors emotions but characteristics as well.. they looked almost identical!!! Or at least like they were related! I don't creep out easily.. the autopsy photos didn't creep me out as bad as that one snap shot! For me, that is saying A LOT!!

[elamir]

MOTION TO PRECLUDE; ANY AND ALL EVIDENCE RELATED ANY WEIGHT ASSESSMENTS OR TESTING ON SHELVING AT PLACE OF DEATH

This is essentially what the defense is trying to keep out of evidence in the rebuttal case:

On March 14, 2013, the State disclosed to Ms. Arias a supplemental report
authored by case agent Detective Flores. Based on what is contained in this report, on
March 5, 2013, Detective Flores traveled to 11428 E Queensborough Ave, Mesa, Arizona
85212. With him that day was Crime Scene Specialist K Kolhepp #16245, whom also
works for the Mesa Police Department. While there measurements of the closet and the
shelving present that day were made. Also of note is that assessments were made
regarding the pins holding up the shelving and how the shelving was resting on those
pins.
In addition to the observations made on March 5, 2013, pictures were taken of the
shelving unit along with an image of an unnamed individual placing weight on and/or
lifting up one of the shelves that is now situated within the closet.

http://media2.abc15.com/html/pdf/ariasmotion1.pdf

I don't think Nurmi has a chance in hell of keeping this testimony out, bet you anything it's coming in.

[ImBatman!]

Sometimes, people with extremely low self-esteem project a very confident or arrogant persona. As compensation for their low self-worth.

So it's kind of a paradox - Jodi shows irrational confidence in herself, I think it's more accurate to say she is delusional. It would be hard to judge her true self esteem through all the lies, for the defense or the prosecution. Either way, it doesn't mean shit in terms of finding her guilty of planning the murder. So I'm not sure why The Prosecutor is so obsessed with it.

I think the killing of TA actually boosted her self-esteem....gave her the power. Sorry if it seems like Im serial posting...Im not, it's just late and the thread is quiet!

[elamir]

Check out this interesting exchange with Arias and the Mit Specialist. Saw this last night and couldn't work it out but today on a watching it again you can plainly see that Arias is complaining about Alyce and gets the MS to go talk to her before she gets back on the stand. Stabby is very unhappy with Alyce and wants her to know it, you should see Alyce's head snap round to look at Arias when she gets her msg, quite comical to watch.

Starts at 43:27mins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AkuytrIXE4

[ImBatman!]

Nope, dont think she is bipolar. Full blown manics are usually psychotic and disorganized and funny as hell. Grandiose thoughts/delusions are huge - more on the order of being or knowing God, not as small as writing a manifesto (who cares?) autographing a copy (again, who cares cause she wasn't famous). Manics have elevated euphoric moods - ver very happy. JA has never demonstrated euphoria or regular happiness.

To me, she has a personality disorder or she is malingering. I would go with malingering. Its possible acting crazy stuff so someone (especially other prisoners) would think she is crazy. Problem is if you are acting crazy, you probably wont get it right. I've seen ppl try to act crazy, its never "spot on". Jail and prison is another world. One tries to get props so no one fu*ks with you. I am betting she was doing what was necessary to be safe and sound. She adapts.



Hypergraphia isn't just writing a lot. I have seen hypergraphia and it usually is writing that leaves no white-space on the page. Schizophrenics write lots of stuff, but I dont think she is schizophrenic. The writings are about scary stuff or delusional beliefs. My experience is that if it is in isolation it is a neurological disorder kind of thing. I would guess GF is bored to death in jail and her silly little mind figures maybe this will work to divert attention from me killing Travis.

Batman is our expert on the personality disorders. We will have to wait for Batman's arrival to have something definitive on JA's dysfunction. Personality disorders arent my strongest suit.

I just saw this...I am still trying to catch up! Bipolar is primarily a chemical imabalance... I agree with Metis, it is not bipolar. At the beginning of 2008 I was for sure it was a borderline dx with psychotic features. Metis will disagree..and guess what...that i..s okay!! She's a collegue and now I believe she is just a plain ole psychopath with borderline traits. As someone posted earlier psychology is not an exact science. For the most part if a patient is symptomatic and they lie...I have to rely on my instinct. If I were in the "expert" in this case I would have damn well interviewed anyone I could get my hands on!!!

[Peace Corpse]

I think the killing of TA actually boosted her self-esteem....gave her the power. Sorry if it seems like Im serial posting...Im not, it's just late and the thread is quiet!

Absolutely, this is why she bought that 9 glock gun which she planned to take with her on that camping trip with 2 men, she hardly knew.

[Peace Corpse]

I just saw this...I am still trying to catch up! Bipolar is primarily a chemical imabalance... I agree with Metis, it is not bipolar. At the beginning of 2008 I was for sure it was a borderline dx with psychotic features. Metis will disagree..and guess what...that i..s okay!! She's a collegue and now I believe she is just a plain ole psychopath with borderline traits. As someone posted earlier psychology is not an exact science. For the most part if a patient is symptomatic and they lie...I have to rely on my instinct. If I were in the "expert" in this case I would have damn well interviewed anyone I could get my hands on!!!

What about the diagnosis of anti-social personality disorder?

[ImBatman!]

What about the diagnosis of anti-social personality disorder?

Anti-social/sociopathy/psychopathy are the same in the DSM IV. In the case of all three there really IS a continuum! And i would add if you don't agree google or get learn the DSM IV...took me four years,

[marycontrary]

Check out this interesting exchange with Arias and the Mit Specialist. Saw this last night and couldn't work it out but today on a watching it again you can plainly see that Arias is complaining about Alyce and gets the MS to go talk to her before she gets back on the stand. Stabby is very unhappy with Alyce and wants her to know it, you should see Alyce's head snap round to look at Arias when she gets her msg, quite comical to watch.

Starts at 43:27mins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0AkuytrIXE4

I wish I could read lips.

My money is on tears on the stand tomorrow.

[marycontrary]

I just saw this...I am still trying to catch up! Bipolar is primarily a chemical imabalance... I agree with Metis, it is not bipolar. At the beginning of 2008 I was for sure it was a borderline dx with psychotic features. Metis will disagree..and guess what...that i..s okay!! She's a collegue and now I believe she is just a plain ole psychopath with borderline traits. As someone posted earlier psychology is not an exact science. For the most part if a patient is symptomatic and they lie...I have to rely on my instinct. If I were in the "expert" in this case I would have damn well interviewed anyone I could get my hands on!!!

If Jodi was your client, would her manifesto raise a red flag?

[ImBatman!]

I wish I could read lips.

My money is on tears on the stand tomorrow.

Ill be home watching so most likely someone will get sick or die...it happens almost every Tuesday or Wed.!

[ImBatman!]

If Jodi was your client, would her manifesto raise a red flag?

I just now started reading the part about the manifesto...what normal person do you know have a manifesto??? Cripes sake yes a red flag!