Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[wasthinking]

JA and her lawyers are in chambers with Judge Stephens....wonder what kinda bullshit they're up to now

Judge has met with everyone else in chambers this morning, nothing suspect about meeting with the def.

[sheesh]

The whole defense in tan today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Or else!

[zeebee]

Wildabout trial gets sent to twitter jail alot for lots of tweets so add 2 and 3 to the end of the of each account and follow those too :)

I don't really use Twitter... what is Twitter jail?

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

@WildAboutTrial 12h

Jennifer sent me this link via Facebook.. very creepy similarities. Psycho #JodiArias https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BHOl4Q2C...SpxBmY.twitter

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

I don't really use Twitter... what is Twitter jail?

You re only allowed so many tweets during x amount of time and then after that they put you in Twitmo

[Ian 1]

Actually, they bought the house in 2005 and the market continued to rise until peaking in late 2006-2007, so the value of the house would have appreciated quite nicely while they owned it. They defaulted on the mortgage b/c they were breaking up, Darryl was moving away and Jodi stopped making payments, and Darryl couldn't afford to keep up with the payments on his own...

That begs the question. Notwithstanding the fact that they were in arrears on the the mortgage payments, why didn't they sell the house in late 2006 or early 2007, and get out from under. If the market hadn't yet collapsed, they could have taken a profit. I don't think that solution was available. If the market hadn't yet completely collapsed, it had certainly frozen and it collapsed very quickly after that; certainly in the overbuilt Coachella Valley it did. Some people tried to hang on but it was wishful thinking. Darrell and Jodi Arias were definitely underwater on the house by the time, (early 2007) that Darrell moved back to Monterey. After that, they were struggling to hang on and we know what happened. To sum it up, they lost everything they put into the property and Jodi came away broke and in debt on her credit cards.

[royals02]

Judge has met with everyone else in chambers this morning, nothing suspect about meeting with the def.

True...but why does it always seems to take an inordinate amount of time with the defense

[M Joy]

True...but why does it always seems to take an inordinate amount of time with the defense

Everything takes an inordinate amount of time with the defense. Its ridiculous how much time they've wasted in this trial.

[wasthinking]

True...but why does it always seems to take an inordinate amount of time with the defense

Nurmi can't speak more than two words a min, JA never STFU, and the entire def has nothing but to repeat 10 times every word they speak ad naseum. Just guessing : )

[rdeadline]

Good morning everyone! My feed just has the seal. Is that currently on everyone's?

[royals02]

Nurmi can't speak more than two words a min, JA never STFU, and the entire def has nothing but to repeat 10 times every word they speak ad naseum. Just guessing : )

HAHAHA..,.truer words have not been spoken!!!

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

True...but why does it always seems to take an inordinate amount of time with the defense

You know how s l o w Nurmi talks right?

[*crickets*]

Funny how they're never even a MINUTE late for lunch breaks...

[zeebee]

Good morning everyone! My feed just has the seal. Is that currently on everyone's?

That's what I have too.

[zeebee]

You re only allowed so many tweets during x amount of time and then after that they put you in Twitmo

For how long?

[MartyT]

I agree... trust the Jury. The system is imperfect but works.

btw: are you Canadian? because you said "honour" Like I used to live in Long Harbour, NL.

Well spotted, Dizzy. I am British. There are people watching this trial all over the world, as you know. I use Defense rather than Defence as it is the USA legal system.

And this is a calculated defense tactic. The longer Jodi was on the stand, as long as she didn't act like Charles Manson, the less likely the jury will be to kill her.

Throw as much "expert" testimony as possible at a jury, the more likely one will find enough of a piece to hang onto for no death penalty.

Defense wins if no death penalty. That's their primary goal.

The Defense strategy is obvious, sure. I made the point simply as I have observed people complaining about the prosecution taking too long. That just didn't ring true to me. The Defense are doing their job based on their client's instructions. I understand how annoying they are to some but neither Nurmi nor Willmot bother me beyond boredom. The strategy of The Defense is straightforward and holds little interest to me. They are plodding along in a textbook fashion. The prosecution - now that is a different story. I am fascinated by the strands that have been woven and can't wait to see how it is tied together.

[wasthinking]

Everything takes an inordinate amount of time with the defense. Its ridiculous how much time they've wasted in this trial.

What advertising for Nurmi and Willmott huh! Hire me, it'll cost you 5 times as much.

[sheesh]

I bet you dollars to donuts Judge admonished Alyce to stay away from Travis' family in chambers.

[ShellJett]

That begs the question. Notwithstanding the fact that they were in arrears on the the mortgage payments, why didn't they sell the house in late 2006 or early 2007, and get out from under. If the market hadn't yet collapsed, they could have taken a profit. I don't think that solution was available. If the market hadn't yet completely collapsed, it had certainly frozen and it collapsed very quickly after that; certainly in the overbuilt Coachella Valley it did. Some people tried to hang on but it was wishful thinking. Darrell and Jodi Arias were definitely underwater on the house by the time, (early 2007) that Darrell moved back to Monterey. After that, they were struggling to hang on and we know what happened. To sum it up, they lost everything they put into the property and Jodi came away broke and in debt on her credit cards.

Pretty sure the mortgage payment doubled around the time she moved out. Maybe Ms. Real Estate Mogul didn't read the fine print. She testified they bought house in order to flip, but I don't remember OG saying that.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

For how long?

Just a few hours and then you can tweet again

[sheesh]

Well she claims the knife was part of their sex play; that Travis had it to cut the rope (that never existed) so that he could tie her up; even though he had a pair of scissors in his butcher block in his kitchen. Supposedly he left it on the bedside table, or in the bathroom, because she claims she held one end of the rope while he stretched it out to the bathroom and cut it with the knife. Thus, the knife ends up in the bathroom, conveniently.

This is nothing but my assumption as to how things went. Jodi brought the knife herself (some have said Darryl had a knife collection that was kept in Jodi's storage shed), thinking she could stab him in the shower and that would be that. A knife to the heart, while Travis is seated and contained in a small box of a shower, seems like it should kill him quickly and easily. Of course it didn't, and that's what the gun was for, a failsafe. If she couldn't kill him with a knife to the heart, then she shoots him quick and easy.

But, it didn't work out that way, and Travis fought back and exited the shower. Now, the crime scene is bigger than Jodi had planned, and Travis is still moving; he might get away, outside to neighbors or to his cell phone to call police.

We don't know where the gun is at this point, but we can guess perhaps it's in her backpack. Maybe he was getting away too fast for her to go rummaging through to find the gun. And, if she has little or no experience with guns, perhaps she doesn't know how loud a shot will be. Will it alert the neighbors? Will someone call the police on her? Was it better to keep stabbing him than to risk someone hearing a shot and reporting it? Could be. So, she keeps stabbing him; she gets him down and even goes so far as to stab him in the head TWICE!, trying to end him. It's not working, he's still alive. So, she slits his throat, believing that she's delivered the fatal blow, and drags him back to the shower.

At that point, either he's making gurgling sounds and she just can't believe he still isn't dead, and grabs the gun. Or, she figures, better safe than sorry and hurry up and shoot him. One of his roommate's was due to be home not long after. If the roommate had gotten there and Travis was not completely dead, he could've discovered the scene and called the cops, and Jodi would possibly have been caught sooner.

All just speculation of course, but I truly believe that she didn't plan on using the gun unless she had to. She didn't want anyone to hear the shot/shots that it would take to kill him; and she simply underestimated his will to live. She thought she'd stab him through the heart (how symbolic) and he would die right there in the shower.

What about the possibility of Jodi saying, "Can I do a photo shoot? I've had this idea about "re-enacting" the Psycho shower stabbing scene on camera .... you know, the way Hitchcock did it from the point of view of Anthony Perkins' character."

I have been thinking of other ways that the murder could have gone down.

The camera was the "key" to opening the shower door -- otherwise he would have been startled. It was a right-handed camera, but Jodi is left-handed,

So I could see her coaxing Travis into playing out the Psycho scene, even exposing his chest for her to hold the knife against to capture in a picture ... but instead she stabs as hard as she can.

Jodi used a cup found in the shower to splash water around to clean up the blood. JM mentioned the bottom of storage boxes being soaked through with water. So the blood trail was incomplete. There had been more blood from the shower to the hall than was found.

[poppym]

Nurmi can't speak more than two words a min, JA never STFU, and the entire def has nothing but to repeat 10 times every word they speak ad naseum. Just guessing : )

Don't forget Palin's "....K! Well...um....if you...right well, did you.....are you comfortable up there?"

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

@WildAboutTrial

Martinez and Flores sit patiently at their desk. It is extremely quiet in here. A "siri" ding ding is heard from an iPhone. #JodiArias

[ShellJett]

I bet you dollars to donuts Judge admonished Alyce to stay away from Travis' family in chambers.

I hope so and also admonishes her for asking JM questions and trying to be a smartass.

[lorizfree]

Why would the judge be in chambers without Juan present? That seems very odd.