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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    So much for her original statement saying she was going to not talk about anything until after the trial was over.
    Really, she's only doing one interview pere day until the trial is over, it's not like she wants attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfy View Post
    But knowing that you could potentially cause a mistrial in a case as huge as this one... that wouldn't make you think twice about saying something to someone else on the jury?
    I would try... but considering how long this trial is taking and how mind-numbing some of the testimony has been it was bound to happen that someone would "slip" and say something funny... but in the context, inappropriate. If it was just the chair comment it doesn't seem to be enough to get her dismissed... IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beli View Post
    I thought it was Jodi's mom who told on her. I could be wrong.
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    The defense wanted her off and the judge thought it was the best move to take her off. I think it was more than just a joke about better chairs.
    Sandy Arias had made an accusation about Juror 5 previously and she (SA) was questioned about it in chambers. Someone posted the minutes from that day earlier. I think it may have been Metis12 who posted them but I can't recall exactly
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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Really, she's only doing one interview pere day until the trial is over, it's not like she wants attention.
    I'm with you on that one Coconut. I think the term "photo bomb" was invented for this woman.
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    Question...

    Travis's brother and two sisters are almost always in court. Where are the other ones? I was thinking I read that there were 7 siblings? (I may be way off on that too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    If he can't find anything due to damage, the point to the jury is likely WHY was it damaged? And perhaps How a hard drive COULD be damaged, or some other technical aspects.
    I wish I had a dollar for every belly up hard drive I have ever had. A few years back, Seagate sold a bunch of removable hard drives with such a high failure rate during the warrranty that they were recovering data for people as well as replacing the drives. I would venture to say that as long as the platter inside the drive is intact, the data on the drive could be retrieved. It requires a clean room and is very expensive, so perhaps cost made it prohibitive for the state. I wouldn't read too much into a dead hard drive, especially the removable ones from that era. Have you ever droppped a laptop or ipod (bigger ones with a hard drive) and then it quit working? They are sensitive to drops, bump and heat issues and like the Seagate example above sometimes the circuit board becomes problematic. If you ever have a broken hard drive, take it apart and look inside. The issues with the cameras SD card surviving the wash and a dead hard drive are different. Flash drives are not as prone to physical damage (they have no moving parts), which is why newer ipods use flash drives. I have washed thumb drives left in pockets and they are still working. I washed a ipod touch and everything works except wifi on it. If a SD card goes belly up, you can blame your computer or camera for that, or user error for removing it while data is being written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    I would try... but considering how long this trial is taking and how mind-numbing some of the testimony has been it was bound to happen that someone would "slip" and say something funny... but in the context, inappropriate. If it was just the chair comment it doesn't seem to be enough to get her dismissed... IMO.
    I suppose you have a point there. Im going insane and I'm just watching from home, I cant imagine how the jurors feel. I agree the chair comment doesn't seem like enough to be dismissed for. That is why I think it was something else. Though if the defense had it out for her, maybe it was enough... I have no idea any more lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfy View Post
    But knowing that you could potentially cause a mistrial in a case as huge as this one... that wouldn't make you think twice about saying something to someone else on the jury?
    Jurors can eat lunch together, maybe they are even required to. They can talk about anything but the trial. The thought is that someone not on the jury overheard something, possibly a spy for Jodi. If they go below 12 jurors, they get a mistrial.
    Jodi always stares at the jurors as they go in and out. One time, while she was on the stand, I saw her smile at someone, then her face quickly changed to a frown. I guess the juror didn't smile back.
    I wonder if jurors can get in trouble for telling each other to avoid eye contact with the witch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Jurors can eat lunch together, maybe they are even required to. They can talk about anything but the trial. The thought is that someone not on the jury overheard something, possibly a spy for Jodi. If they go below 12 jurors, they get a mistrial.
    Jodi always stares at the jurors as they go in and out. One time, while she was on the stand, I saw her smile at someone, then her face quickly changed to a frown. I guess the juror didn't smile back.
    I wonder if jurors can get in trouble for telling each other to avoid eye contact with the witch.
    I think it is incredible that there are still 17 jurors. They have been there every day, and they probably want to stick it out after investing so much time in this trial. Sad for the 5 who won't get to deliberate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Jurors can eat lunch together, maybe they are even required to. They can talk about anything but the trial. The thought is that someone not on the jury overheard something, possibly a spy for Jodi. If they go below 12 jurors, they get a mistrial.
    Jodi always stares at the jurors as they go in and out. One time, while she was on the stand, I saw her smile at someone, then her face quickly changed to a frown. I guess the juror didn't smile back.
    I wonder if jurors can get in trouble for telling each other to avoid eye contact with the witch.
    Ok... Well hopefully they wont lose to many more then! So they arent allowed to talk about the trial at all until its done? Do they get a copy of the transcripts from peoples testimonies?
    The judge should be informing them not to make eye contact lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    Is Nurmi right to say it is a fantasy to think Jurors will follow the rules and not watch or read about any trial coverage? I've never been on a Jury so I can't say for sure but knowing myself (as I do) I'd have to resolve watch NO TV because the curiosity would be too tempting. I'd stick to Netflix and DVD's. Maybe other people wouldn't have a problem with it... but I'm a news junkie.
    Nurmi does have a point, but imagine if this jury was sequestered the whole time, madness. Court caseload too high too devote a full days work 5 days a week to the trial, defence tricks of sickness, delays, days and days of useless testimony. I don't think it's too much of a stretch to believe the jurors aren't watching, when I've seen jury selection on other cases I was gobsmacked at how many potential jurors followed no news at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    Now on HLN: They're playing unedited interviews of Mama and Papa Arias. The Dad says Jodi used credit cards to make $3000 house payments in Palm Desert (living w/ D. Brewer) Also that she bought the 9mm gun and was going on the run before she was arrested... The Dad intimates that "something happened" in Palm Desert that was a "turning point" (in a bad way) for Jodi...
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    Gee, I have it on, but kept the volume down, didn't realize it was new material from DAD.
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    I didn't hear it because of turned down volume. Those statements sound a little off, perhaps he was repeating things Jodi told him? We never heard she made house payments nor something happening at Darryl's except she left for Travis.
    This is a good link to Arias' parents interviews! (courtesy of wasthinking)

    http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...tapes-released

    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    I think it's time to bring Brewer back.
    I doubt the prosecution will, but he knows so much more than he's letting on! What sense of loyalty is he holding onto? "The Jodi that he knew"??

    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post
    I joke all the time. Put me with with a bunch of strangers/jurors on a case with this much ludicrous testimony and I'm going to crack a few jokes in our off time eating lunch. Sequester me, more jokes. Life is funny, laughter is healthy.

    Someone on that jury wanted this juror off the panel, so they tattled on her. The implications are obvious.
    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    exactly, it's human nature and you have to maintain your sanity (especially in THIS trial)
    Who heard the joke though, and reported it back to the defense team? That's what I would like to know!

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    Hi all, I am not able to watch today, does anyone know of any live blogs that follow the trial? Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Missmandy9 View Post
    Chris Williams ‏@chriswnews 1h
    How many? "@KatieWickUSA: I have never seen this many people lined up for #JodiArias ... #JusticeForTravis" Are you going to get a seat?

    Katie Wick ‏@KatieWickUSA 1h
    @chriswnews about 62 people! From all over! Yes, I will wait for PM session. #jodiarias

    YIKES....62 people waiting! I hope faq_q was able to get in!

    Wow, just goes to show how many people want to see Juan in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairuza View Post
    Hi all, I am not able to watch today, does anyone know of any live blogs that follow the trial? Thanks!
    I don't know of any live blogs but I follow @WildAboutTrial on Twitter. Thats a good place for live updates on whats going on when you can't watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dizzyp View Post
    Is Nurmi right to say it is a fantasy to think Jurors will follow the rules and not watch or read about any trial coverage? I've never been on a Jury so I can't say for sure but knowing myself (as I do) I'd have to resolve watch NO TV because the curiosity would be too tempting. I'd stick to Netflix and DVD's. Maybe other people wouldn't have a problem with it... but I'm a news junkie.
    A question I have wondered about too. Juror number five reportedly claimed to have been vigilant - to the point of turning off the news if anything came up. This statement alarmed me, as the news headlines alone are full of the Arias trial slants. I fear Nurmi has a point regarding avoidance to exposure being very difficult outside sequestration. Ultimately, the honour of each juror decides if this rule is followed. Should we not just factor this into reality? Treat jurors as adults capable of being fair regardless of outside influences? How fair is this? How realistic sequestration in cases that last months?

    Talking of time, I read a statistic recently that the prosecution case had taken up around 25% of court days compared to 75% used by the Defense. I am not sure how accurate that is or how it compares to average murder trals. I have always scoffed at claims that the prosecution was taking too long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    I don't know of any live blogs but I follow @WildAboutTrial on Twitter. Thats a good place for live updates on whats going on when you can't watch.
    Thank you! :)
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    My mom recently went to Phoenix for a holiday. She said every time she turned the tv on there was something about Arias. She said it was impossible to avoid all of it.

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    @WildAboutTrial: The judge is done with other cases, the spectator section is empty and Jodi's family is not here yet. I estimate 9:45 start time #JodiArias

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairuza View Post
    Hi all, I am not able to watch today, does anyone know of any live blogs that follow the trial? Thanks!
    Twitter is always a good supplement. I follow @wildabouttrial and Chris Williams @chrisnews although Chris said he's out on assignment today so not sure how much tweeting he will do. But @wildabouttrial has pretty much minute-by-minute updates throughout proceedings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    Sure it did! Her overinflated self-image got a big kick in the butt when she and Darrell fell victim to the collapse of the housing bubble. At that time, and even afterwards, she was describing her career goals to be a "Real Estate Investor" and "Artist/Photographer." She lost all of her savings, ($10-12,000), and ruined her credit.
    Actually, they bought the house in 2005 and the market continued to rise until peaking in late 2006-2007, so the value of the house would have appreciated quite nicely while they owned it. They defaulted on the mortgage b/c they were breaking up, Darryl was moving away and Jodi stopped making payments, and Darryl couldn't afford to keep up with the payments on his own...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missmandy9 View Post
    Twitter is always a good supplement. I follow @wildabouttrial and Chris Williams @chrisnews although Chris said he's out on assignment today so not sure how much tweeting he will do. But @wildabouttrial has pretty much minute-by-minute updates throughout proceedings.
    Wildabout trial gets sent to twitter jail alot for lots of tweets so add 2 and 3 to the end of the of each account and follow those too :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyT View Post
    ...I read a statistic recently that the prosecution case had taken up around 25% of court days compared to 75% used by the Defense...
    And this is a calculated defense tactic. The longer Jodi was on the stand, as long as she didn't act like Charles Manson, the less likely the jury will be to kill her.

    Throw as much "expert" testimony as possible at a jury, the more likely one will find enough of a piece to hang onto for no death penalty.

    Defense wins if no death penalty. That's their primary goal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fairuza View Post
    Hi all, I am not able to watch today, does anyone know of any live blogs that follow the trial? Thanks!
    HLN does a decent live blog during trial.

    http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/04...-abuse-slaying

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post
    And this is a calculated defense tactic. The longer Jodi was on the stand, as long as she didn't act like Charles Manson, the less likely the jury will be to kill her.

    Throw as much "expert" testimony as possible at a jury, the more likely one will find enough of a piece to hang onto for no death penalty.

    Defense wins if no death penalty. That's their primary goal.
    The prosecutor closed on day 9 or 10. What day are we up to now? The defense strategy is failing, the jury now wants to hang the entire defense team.

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