Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

[dizzyp]

...about the shell casing. Those things are ejected with velocity and can bounce all over the place in a room hitting ceiling, walls, etc. But note that the blood it was on top of had to have coagulated for some period of time -- otherwise it would have sunk down into it. Which supports the idea of the delayed shot, along with no bleedout from the wound.

That's the camp I'm in... the gunshot was last and either a Coup de gr?ce or like you say a panic shot.

[Freethinker]

Sure it did! Her overinflated self-image got a big kick in the butt when she and Darrell fell victim to the collapse of the housing bubble. At that time, and even afterwards, she was describing her career goals to be a "Real Estate Investor" and "Artist/Photographer." She lost all of her savings, ($10-12,000), and ruined her credit. It was a matter of time until she would be homeless and totally broke. At that point, she was faced with the undeniable fact that she was broke, unskilled and not very special. That's a pretty bitter blow. She was glib enough to maintain an illusion that she was special and Travis fell for it--for a while. The experience of Palm Desert did indeed make Jodi Arias change--for the worse. Money and status was far more important to Jodi than has come out so far. She referred to the fact that she wished she had more money in her interview with Flores--at one point saying "this wouldn't have happened if I had more money." I don't know what she meant by "this."

To be very clear, I have nothing but respect and sympathy for the thousands of good people that got burned when the housing bubble collapsed.

I think it's time to bring Brewer back.

[sheesh]

Juror #5 saying she was dismissed "over a joke." -- HLN

[ShellJett]

That's the camp I'm in... the gunshot was last and either a Coup de gr?ce or like you say a panic shot.

Agreed, but I think that she used one of TA's throw pillows to muffle the shot. At that time of day during the week neighbors would be coming home from work, etc. Could be why there is no stippling with such a well-placed shot to the temple.

[dizzyp]

She referred to the fact that she wished she had more money in her interview with Flores--at one point saying "this wouldn't have happened if I had more money." I don't know what she meant by "this."

Maybe she meant if she had $$ she could have bought an elite "dream team" defense and beat the charges...

and being greedy is akin to being selfish and she seems to be both... in addition to the 10 Commandments she should have checked out the 7 deadly sins...

[dizzyp]

Juror #5 saying she was dismissed "over a joke." -- HLN

was the joke "Let's play hangman" during the lunch break

[beli]

Juror #5 saying she was dismissed "over a joke." -- HLN

Man, she can't just say that and not tell us what the joke was.

[smurfy]

Juror #5 saying she was dismissed "over a joke." -- HLN

Juror #5 is the joke. When you are on the jury of a case like this.. the last thing you should be doing is joking about it.

I think she is just bitter and probably a bit embarrassed, trying to throw something out there that takes the blame of herself rather than excepting responsibility for what ever she did.

[smurfy]

haha bad spelling there.. also happy birthday Beli... (I think I saw that earlier)

[M Joy]

Juror #5 saying she was dismissed "over a joke." -- HLN

So much for her original statement saying she was going to not talk about anything until after the trial was over.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Man, she can't just say that and not tell us what the joke was.

It was a joke she made while Samuels was on the stand to the effect of "If they can pay $300 an hour they could get us better chars" or something along those lines

[Crystalette247]

They said the joke. She said something along the lines of if that doctor is making 300 dollars an hour you would think we would have better seats then these?? <Paraphrase..

[smurfy]

Really? That's it? How could that be grounds for dismissal?

[Sylvian]

And there was a clear plastic cup in the shower that "didn't fit", and file boxes nearby were bottom stained red and soaked wet giving the impression a lot of water had been splashed around presumably to clean the blood.

I'll tell a story here: A girlfriend's father was dying in hospice here and we visited regularly. He passed when I alone was in the room with him and the family was out eating/running errands. I informed the nurse & she left the room. For whatever reason I did not feel it would be "right" for me to leave him alone in that room, so I stayed. After about 30-45 minutes his body let out an audibly loud sound as it released air/relaxed or something of the sort. Scared the everloving shat out of me, but was later informed that's normal.

I think Jodi killed Travis with the knife. She thought he was dead on the floor or in the shower as she was beginning to clean up & stage the crime scene. At some point Travis was either still alive or his body let out that expired sound I heard in hospice. Jodi was frightened & grabbed the gun & shot him in the head. She did not realize how freaking loud a gun is in an enclosed space, got scared others may have heard it, and bolted from the scene leaving it a mess and leaving incriminating evidence behind.

One this about the shell casing. Those things are ejected with velocity and can bounce all over the place in a room hitting ceiling, walls, etc. But note that the blood it was on top of had to have coagulated for some period of time -- otherwise it would have sunk down into it. Which supports the idea of the delayed shot, along with no bleedout from the wound.

Makes a lot of sense Sheesh.

[beli]

It was a joke she made while Samuels was on the stand to the effect of "If they can pay $300 an hour they could get us better chars" or something along those lines

lololol, okay......

[sheesh]

Juror #5 is the joke. When you are on the jury of a case like this.. the last thing you should be doing is joking about it...

I joke all the time. Put me with with a bunch of strangers/jurors on a case with this much ludicrous testimony and I'm going to crack a few jokes in our off time eating lunch. Sequester me, more jokes. Life is funny, laughter is healthy.

Someone on that jury wanted this juror off the panel, so they tattled on her. The implications are obvious.

[beli]

I thought it was Jodi's mom who told on her. I could be wrong.

[Sylvian]

It was a joke she made while Samuels was on the stand to the effect of "If they can pay $300 an hour they could get us better chars" or something along those lines

Really?! that's it?! Geez

[dizzyp]

Is Nurmi right to say it is a fantasy to think Jurors will follow the rules and not watch or read about any trial coverage? I've never been on a Jury so I can't say for sure but knowing myself (as I do) I'd have to resolve watch NO TV because the curiosity would be too tempting. I'd stick to Netflix and DVD's. Maybe other people wouldn't have a problem with it... but I'm a news junkie.

[M Joy]

I joke all the time. Put me with with a bunch of strangers/jurors on a case with this much ludicrous testimony and I'm going to crack a few jokes in our off time eating lunch. Sequester me, more jokes. Life is funny, laughter is healthy.

Someone on that jury wanted this juror off the panel, so they tattled on her. The implications are obvious.

The defense wanted her off and the judge thought it was the best move to take her off. I think it was more than just a joke about better chairs.

[smurfy]

I joke all the time. Put me with with a bunch of strangers/jurors on a case with this much ludicrous testimony and I'm going to crack a few jokes in our off time eating lunch. Sequester me, more jokes. Life is funny, laughter is healthy.

Someone on that jury wanted this juror off the panel, so they tattled on her. The implications are obvious.

I understand joking around to lighten the mood or what ever, but in a case like this, I would think (and maybe I am way off base here) that you would want to keep your comments to yourself if there was even a small chance that something could happen.
that is a general you, not YOU you.

Is it that someone wanted her off, or they were asking the individual jurors about stuff and it came up that she had made these comments? I think if someone wanted her gone, they would have come forward with the info as soon as it happened. I could be way off though.. I dunno

[lorizfree]

One thing I don't get is, I'm the only one I know that is so completely addicted to this trial/anything to do with it. I've gotten 4 hours sleep some nights trying to "catch up". Yet, when I tell my friends (who love shows like 48 hours) about it? Not interested. This is goddamn history! Pure reality entertainment, with a real serious freaking conclusion! I wish I knew some of you for reals, cause watching this alone, with the head phones, at 1,2,3 am makes me feel like a freaking crack head..... Just. Need. More. Juuuuuan!!

Does anyone else but me really need to clean their house?

[dizzyp]

I joke all the time. Put me with with a bunch of strangers/jurors on a case with this much ludicrous testimony and I'm going to crack a few jokes.

exactly, it's human nature and you have to maintain your sanity (especially in THIS trial)

[smurfy]

exactly, it's human nature and you have to maintain your sanity (especially in THIS trial)

But knowing that you could potentially cause a mistrial in a case as huge as this one... that wouldn't make you think twice about saying something to someone else on the jury?

[Missmandy9]

Chris Williams ‏@chriswnews 1h
How many? "@KatieWickUSA: I have never seen this many people lined up for #JodiArias ... #JusticeForTravis" Are you going to get a seat?

Katie Wick ‏@KatieWickUSA 1h
@chriswnews about 62 people! From all over! Yes, I will wait for PM session. #jodiarias

YIKES....62 people waiting! I hope faq_q was able to get in!