so that indicates that Hodi changed the bullets. did she not want to kill him with the gun, just disable him? why would she change the bullets?Originally Posted by TeamRenew
so that indicates that Hodi changed the bullets. did she not want to kill him with the gun, just disable him? why would she change the bullets?
I wondered if Grampa even knew what he had. Was the hollow point information verified or just claimed by him?
since he had it in his dresser drawer for protection, he prolly did have the hollow points, I have read he also had many other guns so was not a novice. no proof though.
Very interesting..thanks for posting the link......I hope JM has an expert witness that discusses the tests (that Dr. Samuel did NOT administer) that detect lying/malingering
I'll start this by saying i have not watched the videos from Wilmot finishing to Martinez starting. From what i'm reading on here i do have to agree with Coconut, Artemis etc by saying that if i'm seeing it from me being a juror, then it would be off putting for me seeing Martinez and Alyce bait each other.Granted, he is much more interesting than Nurmi. In fact, I don't watch Nurmi; however, JM is interesting in a bit of a train-wreck aspect. He would piss me off if I was a juror. He's belligerent. Not getting the circle-jerking to him. Well, given the biddies in this thread, I guess I do.
I'm really sensitive to moods/tones/inflections so I think if I were there i'd either be getting very wound up like them, which would only cloud what i was hearing/writing down OR i'd feel like i'd want to retreat a little from the fighting and prob feel like this
Different strokes for different folks. I know i'd want clear, concise and straight to the points questions and answers. Ultimately if i were on that jury i think my biggest 'juror porn' moments would be if Martinez could catch them on the hop in such a calm way that you could hear a pin drop when he is done
Ad Astra per Aspera........"A rough road leads to the stars"
Upon some research, the .25 hollow points are pretty weak for penetration. Most research points that the regular FMJ will penetrate further.
http://www.handgunforum.net/home-def...ammo-25-a.html
Because grandpas fingerprints might be on them? Or he might have a box of ammo that matched still at home? Or because having bullets different than the ones in the stolen gun was safer than keeping bullets that provided yet another link the the theft of the gun?
Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA
You left out 1 very important item. The original Jodi thread began in 2008. Many of the original posters feel they have been forced out of their own thread by all the nonsense you describe above. I think they have reason to be annoyed.
Another thing is that the volume of posts in the Jodi thread slow down the entire site.
I remember her sister Cynthia's murder. A German man lured her into marriage, and he and his brother killed her for insurance money. I recall they came to the US to implement that plan.
Kathy Monkman goes by Katie Cool Lady on WS, right? There has been confusion on that and Katie Wick.
god! i can't even say anything more, really. but i'll try. all of this is right on.
Yes.
Also, for me anyway,
-People using cutesy nicknames like "Stabby", "Hodi", ""Wurmi", LaToilette", "LaVa", etc. I just find it silly and childish. It brings the intellectual level of the thead down two notches (exactly two) and it's not exactly super high to begin with.
-Victim Blaming
-Body Shaming
-Name calling and making fun of everyone on the defense side, including Jodi's little brother. I mean WTF. I also find the organized attacks on both Dr Samuels's & Alyce LaViolette's websites etc. particularly alarming.
SMITE ME FOR MY OPINION NOW, BITCHES
i used to be a member of this thread. i used to read it and comment on it. now i don't because it hurts my brain to read all the hateful comments. i don't feel they have a place here or anywhere. i see similar comments on those other 'crazy' sites... and y'all wonder why i say the crazy came here.
because of some members of this thread, features have been taken from the rest of us and warnings have been issued. FTR: i don't give a shit about the reps, but if anyone is complaining that i say in another thread that the jodi thread ruins everything, you're not seeing the truth that is in front of you. maybe the sane posters on this thread could do a little more to self-regulate the nutters that are giving it a bad name?
and indeed, there are many, many little complainers running around this thread. they smite, they report, they over post and what's worse - they don't see how they're the problem and threaten to leave the site because the big bad senior members say mean awful things! These people are usually the most vocal nick-namers and body shamers.
it's just immature.
if you're not the one doing this, i'm not talking to you! there are quite a few here are awesome to the max!
Excellent points! I would never get away with murder. I think Hodi is smarter than some give her credit for. Her brain is a damn sponge. And she is part parrot. she has to have some gun knowledge. Yet Darryl won't say and neither will Matt ~ will they??? Would love to hear more about Darryl's knife collection that was in her storage unit.
Completely agree with all of this. I started looking around the rest of MDS about a month ago and it's ridiculous how much this thread is being shitted upon. It's become a whole new topic for Sr. MDSers to talk shit on all that post here. (I'm surprised they haven't created their own separate thread for it.) And to talk shit on people who don't have time to venture out and participate in other threads?? Sorry, but I simply don't have time for it. I barely have time for this thread and since I am so tied to this trial, my time will be spend in this thread. I've kinda' come to the conclusion that those that talk shit are those people that talk shit in the real world just to make themselves feel better. I know I'm sounding like a bitch, but I just don't have tolerance for all of that. And it makes no sense to complain about the stuff they complain about. To the point of complaining about people here using too many smilies...really?! And to post in here just to stir up the pot??? Um, ya. If you don't like it here, then don't come here, right? I don't understand what's so difficult about it. I can't say I regret paying Premium, but once the trial is over, I don't plan on renewing. It's quite a bummer because I love MDS because of this thread, but apparently- according to others- this thread isn't the ideal representation of MDS. Point taken...
That's just his way and that's how he operates. I imagine after sitting there day after day, and in this case, listen to Nurmi's drone or JW's whatever, his adrenalin is on overdrive by the time the defense witnesses try to justify Jodi's actions and skirt around answers. Can't wait till Monday.
At 1 today is a special on HLN showing the opening statements.
Haha-im in east yorkshire and the tramps do it here too!! Thank baby jesus for mifi though, we only have kingston communications as they have a monopoly and Karoo is pure shite!
Back on topic........from what ive read i wouldnt expect anything less......the more he gets wound up-the more Alyce can hit home about aggression etc. I don't think for a minute it is right, but it really can play into what she has been testifying about for the past week.
Ad Astra per Aspera........"A rough road leads to the stars"
Yes, Poppycock, Kathy Monkman is KatieCoolLady and Katie Wick is KatieDDJ. I can not imagine my sister or brother being murdered and needing to relive it daily via the trial. I think there is another Kathy/Katie who has the cane that JM signed. The court watcher thread is interesting. I would love to attend court!
Missmandy, I think you're a solid contributor. I don't think the complaints about some of the Jodi Thread n00bs applies to you.
"...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)
Well I appreciate that, I really do.
But it still doesn't take away from the unnecessary behavior. Whether I'm part of the complaints or not, I still read about it and it's still disturbing, either way...
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Did WT ever post that list? I couldn't find it. Breach of Trust made a very good point. The word domestic means pertaining to the home. Travis and Jodi never co-habituated. I think they only lived in the same state for a few months. They were hardly ever anything more than a long distance girlfriend/boyfriend. The few months they were in an official relationship Jodi lived in Desert Palms and Travis lived in Mesa. It's really stretching it calling it domestic violence.
Haha. The resemblance yesterday was stunning.
Or that she just made it all it up.
The thing is that Alyce approached Samantha after SHE asked for a pee break, from what I've read on Twitter Samantha was sitting by herself at that time as court was in a short recess. What kind of bullshit is that? The Judge should have reprimanded Alyce in open court. Can you imagine if a Prosecution expert had approached an Arias family member? The Defense would be screaming mistrial from the roof tops. The nerve of that woman, then she sits up on the stand says TA was not a victim?i wonder what alyce said too - cuz isn't it knda illegal for her to do that?? i saw alyce shoot samatha a couple of mean looks when samantha rolled her eye
I think she started planning it when she left Mesa. Alyce made my jaw drop when she said that for sure but approaching TA's sister Samantha? Unreal.
Thanks. I'd seen the hallway picture and the sad body bag picture but not the others.
Completely. Her story is utter and complete bullshit.
He posts at the JAII site and based on what I've seen on Twitter and JAII he's as loony as the rest of them.
If Alyce would have just answered the damned question instead of trying to show JM who was boss she'd have been better off. the "Are you mad me, Mr Martinez?" line was so obviously rehearsed
Its interesting that Alyce and Samuels use the same level of resistance and terminology to impede Martinez. This says to me it is defense tactics/strategy to disarm Martinez. The laughing and cracking up by the court room was really only JA supporters and the mitigation specialist. The outburst seemed coached as well. If I didn't know any better I would think this tactic belongs to Wilmont as it feels like female bullying. You know how that goes, one female does the taunting and the gaggle of other females stand around. The real bully is ready to stab you in the back.
Awwww, no way......that cat is WAY cuter than ALV!
I understand that. I post in here too, so there are times I take offense at what other MDSers say about the people who post in the Jodi thread because it is often said in generalities, and we are not all the same. But I also understand their frustration, because this has been kind of taken over by people we don't know, some of whom don't contribute much, behave trollishly or serial post for no real reason. BUT... of course, not all of the people who post in here fall under that catagory!Well I appreciate that, I really do.
But it still doesn't take away from the unnecessary behavior. Whether I'm part of the complaints or not, I still read about it and it's still disturbing, either way...
I admit that I have had to put some people on ignore so that my head doesn't explode when I venture in here. And I have pet peeves about stuff that is posted in here (see my earlier post above).
But there is also a lot of great stuff in here too. It's just frustrating to have to wade through some of the extraneous stuff to get to the good stuff. That's all, really.
"...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)
he may have style but he has no class and is not polished.He needs answers to his questions for the jury to make their decision and if his demeanor only allows them to remember "how his tone" asked the question the answer isn't remembered and it defeats the purpose of the question.Passion is one thing ,Anger and being confrontational is another...
I can see where you are coming from with the posters that had originally been posting on the 1st thread since 2008. I would be pissed to. I did, however, sign up 3 days ago premium so I could get ALL the features. IMHO, the fact that people abuse the thread, post off-topic, smite at will or otherwise don't know how to use multi-quote should not affect my experience that I pay for. I just wish the few that ruin it would be dealt with individually instead of the rest having to deal with it.
Great post...agree with you but I joined for this thread mostly (though I have been lurking around some of the others) and I get annoyed that because of a few bad apples, we get dealt with on a group basis. Enough said, sorry to contribute more to this off-topic conversation, I will go back to the trial topic now
I find it funny that you all sit here and bitch about how they are taking those messages out of context and how not right it is. Yet you sit here and bash ALV over HALF a statement she made. I om not a fan of hers, I think she is about as full of shit as a person could possibly be. I have zero respect for the things she is putting out there in regards to the whole thing.. but... She said Travis was not the victim OF ABUSE! She did not say he was not the victim period. She said OF ABUSE.
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