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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    She can't be a martyr unless she is wrongly convicted and is sentenced to death. Certainly, we should all wish for that, since it will just add to the tragedy that is Jodi's life. Victimized by family and boyfriends, and now, finally, by society. How can a world be so unjust when a woman who is broken up with a man can't drive over a thousand miles just to have sex with him? Ok, sure, so someone died. That's not that big a deal, is it? It's not like Jodi ever had a choice. He put her under his spell just by being in the same room as her. He must have had pheromones or something enslaved women to do his ultimate bidding or something in order for Jodi to feel used and abused and yet unable to live without him within the first week of meeting him.

    I just feel so awful that I was participating in all the Jodi hate. Why oh why was I so cruel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by carnee View Post
    I think it is very selfish of her. If a juror even looks at her they will be called on it. It may be her right. I just think its wrong. The trial aint about her.
    I agree. If she's doing this for a $$$ interview with ABC and is just adding some drama, I don't think it'll work. Nobody will give a shit at the end of the trial what Juror 5 thinks. They'll want to talk to the ones who convicted her.

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    I just don't get it. Yes, they had long arguments via IM, but it takes 2 to tango. If she didn't keep answering, there would be no fight. Also, whether there was name calling or not, they were not face to face fighting! Nor, was it a fight over the phone. It was all a flurry of words, not fists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carnee View Post
    I think it is very selfish of her. If a juror even looks at her they will be called on it. It may be her right. I just think its wrong. The trial aint about her.
    Agreed! If she wants to see the trial to the end, watch it at home! She is vying for her 15 minutes of fame!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreachofTrust View Post
    Watching this so called expert speculate on Travis' written words to people she's never met makes me sick!

    I can't imagine how hard it must be for his family to listen to her outrageous claims!

    I really would like to throw a tomato at her! I can't stand that she is making this much cash and her education, IMO, is quite dated!
    Not that the more erudite can't be lying frauds, paid hacks (read: Dr. Dick). However, if the DT really wanted to make a point regarding domestic abuse, they could have at least hired someone with a more impressive CV, a domestic abuse specialist with a PhD, peer reviewed, not a social worker with a master's degree paid 350.00 per hour to regurgiate countless emails/text messages taken out of context, to psychoanalyze someone she has never spoken with/interviewed...the BUTCHERED VICTIM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CreepyGus View Post
    Nice shirt, Donovan. Glad you dressed up for court.
    Lol! I was thinking the same thing!

    Quote Originally Posted by PopRocks View Post
    what is the purpose of going over all of this?

    imo it just shows us her motivation to want to kill him
    I agree. This really passed Jodi off. I bet this is when she started her murderous plans.

    Quote Originally Posted by andrea0121 View Post
    Jodi's stuck up piece of shit ass needs to stop watching the jury. She looks over there with her nostrils all spread out like her b-hole and turns to right shit down. YOU'RE NOT GETTING A MISTRIAL STABBY, SIT THE FUCK DOWN.

    I hate her and haven't had time to spread my hate lately in her thread(s) because work got in the way the last week or so.
    Wait and see. Donovan and Jodi may have plans to cause a mistrial. I got a bad feeling.

    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    WTF is Juror #5 doing there? I don't know why this is permitted?
    I think she has every right to be there. She has already given 3 months of her life to this trial. She has a right to see it through, IMO.

    Quote Originally Posted by andrea0121 View Post
    Why would Juror #5 NOT be allowed in? It's open to the public, she's not on the jury any more....what would it matter? I also don't think she looks pissed, I think she's trying to make eye contact with one of the other jurors. All of the spectators have been told to show no emotion soooo....Maybe that's just her 'i'm showing no emotion' face?
    Agree!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CreepyGus View Post
    STOP ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS BEFORE THE JUDGE RULES, YOU IDIOT!
    Agree. She is making me angry!

    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    How did she get raw deal? The judge had to boot her, they don't boot jurors without good cause, THAT would be a direct free appeal on it's own.
    Mark my words, this one is a KOOK without the decency to not put her fellow jurors on the spot with her sitting there. I've never seen anything like this in my life!
    We don't know ANY details yet. I'll wait to judge her until we do. And even then, I won't judge her too harshly. She has given a lot to this trial. The defense complained and this led to her dismissal. We dont know what realy even happened. It sucks so many people are judging her so harshly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by carnee View Post
    I think it is very selfish of her. If a juror even looks at her they will be called on it. It may be her right. I just think its wrong. The trial aint about her.
    She's making damn sure it is now. It wasn't enough she screwed up once and wasted a day, now she wants to take more risks. Unfuckingbelievable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    So just in case we weren't completely sure Alyce was full of shit, she claims that in her 35yrs she has NEVER heard ANYTHING quite as abusive as this text/IM

    When someone says "I mean no offense" they actually do mean it as an offense.
    I totally agree! If this is the worst she has heard in 35 years all of her clients must be in kindergarten.
    I grew up with six brothers, I heard way worse come out of their mouths on a regular basis! (not necessarily directed at me)
    GRRR..........

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    I hope one of the juror questions is:

    "Your kidding, right?"

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    Judge orders that no one approach juror 5 in the courtroom during break. She sits defiantly in gallery as reporters lurk. What's her game?



    As much as I believe Juror 5 has a right to be there... I wonder if she should stay home next week, mostly because of the media

    Last edited by M Joy; 04-04-2013 at 02:12 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingles View Post
    Not that the more erudite can't be lying frauds, paid hacks (read: Dr. Dick). However, if the DT really wanted to make a point regarding domestic abuse, they could have at least hired someone with a more impressive CV, a domestic abuse specialist with a PhD, peer reviewed, not a social worker with a master's degree paid 350.00 per hour to regurgiate countless emails/text messages taken out of context, to psychoanalyze someone she has never spoken with/interviewed...the BUTCHERED VICTIM.
    She has a Masters degree? I thought she had an Associates and a Bachelors degree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    She can't be a martyr unless she is wrongly convicted and is sentenced to death. Certainly, we should all wish for that, since it will just add to the tragedy that is Jodi's life. Victimized by family and boyfriends, and now, finally, by society. How can a world be so unjust when a woman who is broken up with a man can't drive over a thousand miles just to have sex with him? Ok, sure, so someone died. That's not that big a deal, is it? It's not like Jodi ever had a choice. He put her under his spell just by being in the same room as her. He must have had pheromones or something enslaved women to do his ultimate bidding or something in order for Jodi to feel used and abused and yet unable to live without him within the first week of meeting him.

    I just feel so awful that I was participating in all the Jodi hate. Why oh why was I so cruel?
    No martyr status for having to endure Sheriff Joe's nutri loaf? What is this world coming too?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    That might be the stupidest thing she has said so far. I'll hold both your purses.
    I don't know if it's actually the stupidest but I'm pretty sure it's up there. We need a Top Ten List

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    WTF is Juror #5 doing there? I don't know why this is permitted?
    It is extraordinary. This juror is making herself look almost as crazy as Arias, stalking the court. Wtt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    http://images.bimedia.net/documents/Arias1.pdf <dated May 22, 2008
    It so does appear to be so concocted, who writes explainations to yourself, in your OWN diary??
    *I sort of put it in an email I sent a few days ago <why needing this written, but only to show she sent an email to TA to break it off, lying as to show it was her who wanted to end it
    *I can't wait to check more things off the list (from 1,000 places) <who needs to write 1,000 places in their "own" diary, because she is explaining it out to someone (law enforcement) what she means
    *I swore I wasn't (which is true) <it's her diary, who is she trying to prove this point to? Herself, yeah right {referring to not seeing anybody or getting her kicks off}
    *I told him to be patient, she'll come around < again who is she kidding {referring to Mimi & his relationship not progressing}
    *We both agreed to change our passwords, which we exchanged eons ago to establish or re-establish trust < Reminding herself "why" they exchanged passwords, NO--> letting future readers be fooled into think that
    *For his sake I hope he hasn't, not because it would be a replacement but because it is not spiritually productive <Ok all of the sudden she is a TRUE Mormon, forget about having all sorts of sex using every orifice in her body since she was a wee teen {referring to TA finding a replacement booty-call}
    *horrified that my phone was stolen, it had a hugely scandalous text message from him (10pgs) that he sent last week. It would make a steamy romance novel sound like a script from a Grated Disney movie < Again, another reminder to herself??? I think not, it is for the people that are going to be reading this once the deed is done {6/4/08}
    *** So many more, just tired of writing ***
    Outstanding detective work by CP and the other posters highlighting this.

    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    How did she get raw deal? The judge had to boot her, they don't boot jurors without good cause, THAT would be a direct free appeal on it's own.
    Mark my words, this one is a KOOK without the decency to not put her fellow jurors on the spot with her sitting there. I've never seen anything like this in my life!
    Another thing we need the background on.

    Quote Originally Posted by carnee View Post
    I think it is very selfish of her. If a juror even looks at her they will be called on it. It may be her right. I just think its wrong. The trial aint about her.
    It adds a circus element to the proceedings. Has this ever happened before in a televised trial in the states?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    How did she get raw deal? The judge had to boot her, they don't boot jurors without good cause, THAT would be a direct free appeal on it's own.
    Mark my words, this one is a KOOK without the decency to not put her fellow jurors on the spot with her sitting there. I've never seen anything like this in my life!
    I respectfully disagree. She sat on the jury for 4 months and for whatever reason (and we do not know Anything except for speculation) she was dismissed. I agree that she would not have got booted without just cause but she has a right just as any other citizen to attend the trial that she wasted that time on. If the jury can be trusted, they should be able to deal with her presence there. That is JMO.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    She is looking directly over towards Travis's family (jury left already)

    In this pic below, you can see Det Flores is talking to Samantha (shortly afterwards she looks toward Juror #5) No one talked to her (a reporter in a blue shirt w/ a black strap around ghis right shoulder started his way on over but was called back & he was kinda like what? I thought thats what we were doing)
    Last edited by Cocopop; 04-04-2013 at 02:39 PM. Reason: fixed name of lead det. due to me being stoned & was reminiscing the Casey A. trial bad guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by BreachofTrust View Post
    She has a Masters degree? I thought she had an Associates and a Bachelors degree?
    No, she has a master's...and was quick to inform us how fast she completed her post-grad work, less than 2 years, I think. I forget now what exactly her degree was in...but her thesis was lame, and she claims it was never published because she "wasn't interested in that." Pfft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    I respectfully disagree. She sat on the jury for 4 months and for whatever reason (and we do not know Anything except for speculation) she was dismissed. I agree that she would not have got booted without just cause but she has a right just as any other citizen to attend the trial that she wasted that time on. If the jury can be trusted, they should be able to deal with her presence there. That is JMO.
    Technically, yes, I agree. However, I would not want to do anything that would even remotely cause any problem, aka mistrial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jingles View Post
    Not that the more erudite can't be lying frauds, paid hacks (read: Dr. Dick). However, if the DT really wanted to make a point regarding domestic abuse, they could have at least hired someone with a more impressive CV, a domestic abuse specialist with a PhD, peer reviewed, not a social worker with a master's degree paid 350.00 per hour to regurgiate countless emails/text messages taken out of context, to psychoanalyze someone she has never spoken with/interviewed...the BUTCHERED VICTIM.
    Completely agree!

    Quote Originally Posted by faq_q View Post
    I respectfully disagree. She sat on the jury for 4 months and for whatever reason (and we do not know Anything except for speculation) she was dismissed. I agree that she would not have got booted without just cause but she has a right just as any other citizen to attend the trial that she wasted that time on. If the jury can be trusted, they should be able to deal with her presence there. That is JMO.
    Well said. I will respectfully agree to disagree with anyone who thinks differently.
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    According to Alyce, being married puts you in a vulnerable position.

    Add that to my list.

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    Yay. June 4th.

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    Hold the phone.....Stabby's all strong and refusing to see TA. He "guilts" her into seeing him. Why the hell would he do that after he just blasted her for being a POS that ruined his life????

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    After looking at the pic of Donavan today I am convinced that they modeled Jabba the Hut in her likeness..the resemblance is uncanny..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cocopop View Post
    She is looking directly over towards Travis's family (jury left already)

    In this pic below, you can see Jose is talking to Samantha (shortly afterwards she looks toward Juror #5) No one talked to her (a reporter in a blue shirt w/ a black strap around ghis right shoulder started his way on over but was called back & he was kinda like what? I thought thats what we were doing)
    some one tweeted that when alyce left the stand she went over to samantha and started talking - which is illegal, i bet thats what she was looking at

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishmich View Post
    Technically, yes, I agree. However, I would not want to do anything that would even remotely cause any problem, aka mistrial.
    I hear ya, but isn't this jury supposed to be unbiased and able to withstand prejudice? Nurmi, Stabby and Palin are just looking for a reason for a mistrial, yes....but I would think that the rest of the jury would learn from her mistake and forge forward, however difficult it is to listen to ALV.


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    For those asking about Donovan:

    Donovan Bering has been one of Jodi's biggest supporters. Her girlfriend is/was Jodi's cellmate, and Donovan did jail time for an accessory arson charge (burning down a dentist's office), which is how they met.

    She has gone on TV interviews supporting Jodi, and has been in court nearly every day, except for a week following the magazine incident.

    When it was revealed that Jodi put coded messages into a magazine and tried to sneak them out of jail to Matt, Donovan ran from the court room and went MIA for a few days. She has since returned.

    Jodi had been examined by a psychologist, but the report was on a laptop which was stolen from the psychologist's house. Some people suspect that Donovan may have had a hand in that.

    Donovan and her friend Ann Campbell have posted on Mydeathspace (I think under the username Karma), and argued with mods. She is currently active on the 'Jodi Arias is Innocent' website, and has bad grammar.

    There is a lot of info on the old thread, buried in those 2k pages. :)

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