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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death (Part II)

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    Alice thinks Travis was abusing Jodi with his Penis!! Alice likes to talk about throwing frogs in pots of boiling water. That's why I always picture the boiling bunny when I think of Jodi!
    4/‎3/‎13
    Morning. Jodi has a blue shirt on. Hair is the same. She only has two bangs hanging down.

    Alice is on the stand. Palin is up for the defense. Palin has a bunch of papers.
    Oct 29, 2007- EX 579- Travis wants her to rip out the pages where she talks about him.
    EX 242- The real journal with pages torn out.

    Nov 1, 2007-EX 580- Diary- Jodi and Travis made up. Travis came over Jodi's house for a couple of nights. Travis gives her a treat and Jodi gives Travis a treat.

    Nov 5, 2007- EX 581- Diary- (JM asks for an approach)
    Travis used harsh words with Jodi. She forgave him and promised not to write them down. (what man really cares what a woman writes in her stupid diary?)

    Dec 4, 2007- EX 583-diary- Hiding their relationship. Jodi would sneak in to the grandmother's house when Travis was there and leave before anybody got up. Alice says this diary entry goes with another story about another woman he did the same thing to.

    Dec 25, 2007- Alice says Jodi is celebrating with her family in Yreka. Travis buys Jodi a bunch of expensive presents even though his money is tight. Alice says Jodi is starting to pull away from Travis. (this is the same month of the John Doe letter to Lisa and Travis' slashed tires) (Alice is telling a very LONG story about somebody else) (OMG, I guess they are saying Travis was abusing her with his penis)

    EX 440- Text messages- Jan 2008- Travis text Jodi that he loves her. They are loving texts. They talk about swap cars.
    Jan 21, 2008- Text- Alice says this is when there was a second physical abusive act. JM objects
    Approach
    Alice spoke with Jodi. Jodi said she forgot to take the drawing. She came back. Travis was beating off to the picture. Alice is bringing up Travis' childhood. (I don't know how this is allowed to happen)
    Jan 22, 2008- Jodi comes back. She can't loan him anymore money. He throws her to the floor. Then he kicks her, then kicks her a second time and breaks her finger. Travis leaves the room. Jodi wondered if Travis was getting a weapon (Uh huh) But Travis comes back and splints Jodi's finger.

    Alice did tell JM the Pedo pictures were viewed on a computer but Jodi never told her that. Alice said that was her misspeaking.

    (Sorry guys. I had to break for a few minutes- I have some kind of stomach virus)

    Alice sees emotional abuse going on. Now Alice is explaining fear (I bet Travis had a lot of fear on June 4th) Alice would call it a domestic abusive relationship

    Feb 8-14 2008 Text message- Travis wants favors from Jodi. They talk nice to each other. Palin directs her to Feb 10- Travis was planning to take Jodi somewhere then another place to knock off her socks off.

    EX 584- Feb 15, 2008- Diary- Jodi started a LDS linkup account to meet other men. Travis is having money problems, so Jodi is not sure they are still going to that special place Travis wanted to take her (uh, I wonder if the money was running out-so was Jodi)

    Text on Feb 25, 2008- Travis is upset b/c Jodi is not responing. Jodi's phone had issues. (This is also the same day Jodi wanted a good ass pounding and spanking from Travis)

    Feb 26- EX 585- Diary- Jodi says they have a good tender sexual experience. (this is also the day that she text about the horny school girl) Jodi writes in her diary that Travis wants to date MiMi.
    Same EX- Jodi is excited about meeting Sam Schulz and the vegas trip. Alice says she has seen no evidence of Jodi being jealous.
    Feb 29, 2008- Travis says that he has tons of great experiences with Jodi.
    March 2, 2008- A 3rd violent event in the car. (this is the day Jodi also talks about Travis taking MiMi rock climbing)

    Approach Judge
    3rd event- She talked about moving to Yreka and Travis slapped her across the face. Takes place in Travis' car. This is also when they are driving to the tax seminar. (actually this whole event takes place on the 1st of march, not the 2nd)

    (Sorry, my stomach again.)

    March 13-Diary entry- EX 586- Jodi is talking about a trip. Roswell NM and caverns. Jodi talks about how much she is going to miss him. Jodi brings up MiMi again

    March 17, 2008- Text message- Jodi and Travis- They both said they had a great time on their trip. They are loving with each other.

    approach

    Sorry folks. I have to bail out. I feel like death.

    I may not be back after the lunch break. I feel like hell and I can't quit puking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    First of all, is this a confirmed incident? In other words, has any reputable news source reported this (I tend not to trust the National Inquirer, silly me).

    In any case, she probably thinks they are real and I don't doubt that Jodi manipulates her.
    the editor of the NE was interviewed by NG he said he got a call from mama arias to meet, and she brought a letter and wanted to sell it, saying jodi is making her do it, that jodi believes this was her only chance for aquital and that she cried during the whole convo

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    Quote Originally Posted by gecko am View Post
    It actually could have been a good show (re-creating Travis rooms was awesome but some things there were wrong) but when you do something half ass what's the point?
    I had high hopes it would be a good show... but they are sloppy with the facts and it's gone down hill from day one.

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    So there's excusable violence from a female onto a male but not the other way around?

    As a man/layman, this makes sense to me.

    But clinically, it does not fit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    This testimony is just white noise at this point. Filibuster is right.

    Instead I checked out bermstalker's timeline.

    The timeline helped shape my understanding of their relationship. Travis never really stopped dating or seeing other women, I don't think they ever really were a comitted couple in his mind. Jodi might have wanted that but was seeing other people and looking for opportunities with other men.

    What if her motivation for the killing was recognition? What if she wanted everyone (the Mormons, Travis's other girls, Prepaid Legal people, The Hughes) to know that she really was his girlfriend? The "long email" from May 16, 2008 lays out her motive for the killing..
    Snipped for space-
    YES Coconut!! Half the shit that is coming out in this trial is Stabby's way of making their relationship public, just exactly the way she always wanted it to be! I don't think she really cares that much about the outcome. The goal was to make every little aspect of their relationship (per Jodi only) out there for everyone to see- She had to murder him. It was her ultimate control over him. "I still beat you.......brat!"

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    P.S.-Has anyone else given a reach-around to a spider-monkey whilst reciting the pledge of allegiance, or is that fairly uncommon?

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    Let me guess.... break?

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    Is LaV taking another piss break?? Wth, can't this woman wait 20 minutes? What a waste of f'ing time. This is bs!!

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    Stabby's boobs look a little uneven today.

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    I'm guessing that JW does not care in the least that she is for sure losing this jury....I'll bet they are so bored that they are totally tuning it out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wishmich View Post
    Stabby's boobs look a little uneven today.

    Not as uneven as her pussylips are.

    Seen the pics?

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    Alyce needs to peepee...guess she couldn't hold it till lunch...Judge Sherry looks exasperated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    Is LaV taking another piss break?? Wth, can't this woman wait 20 minutes? What a waste of f'ing time. This is bs!!
    i am sure it is a side effect of menopause, w/ my mom that was the first thing to happen

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    "These two bimbos are like watching Romper Room on a bad LSD trip"

    another tagline I can use!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post
    So there's excusable violence from a female onto a male but not the other way around?

    As a man/layman, this makes sense to me.

    But clinically, it does not fit.
    As a woman, this does not make sense to me.

    Karma is only a bitch if you are!

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    Juan Martinez cross of ALV recap:

    Juan "Maam, take a look at exhibit ### (pictures of Travis slit throat), does this look like DV to you?"

    ALV: "Yes"

    Juan "All the questions that Mrs Willmott has asked you are based on what Miss Arias has told you, right?"

    ALV: "Yes"

    Juan "And you are aware that Ms Arias is a proven liar and it is very difficult to tell whether she is telling the truth in any situation?"

    ALV: "Yes"

    Juan: "No further questions judge"


    Quote Originally Posted by Boston Babe 73 View Post
    I find it hilarious that YOU are acting all high and mighty toward us when you're posting on here just like anyone else and in addition, defending a murderer. A child murderer, at that. Go fuck a Popsicle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Alyce needs to peepee...guess she couldn't hold it till lunch...Judge Sherry looks exasperated!
    I hope she tells JW to speed things up when she gets back

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    Hope you feel better soon Berm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Am I your dirty little secret? LMFAO
    You bet. I won't even complain when you sleep under my Christmas tree.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    the dad said tha jodi was talking about getting married to travis w/ his daughter angela, but then they broke up, he had never seen a pic of travis either - i bet travis is the first one who ever dumped jodi - she is always the one to break up after she already has another guy to go to, and thats where her obsession/stalking flew into overdrive
    I think this is exactly what happened. Lots of other relationships ended, but SHE was the one who ended them. Travis was the first one to dump her, and it made all the difference. When you dump someone, you have the control. When someone dumps you, they have the control, and she could not stand it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    Will we have any better answers to our questions about why some people murder other people after all these brain and behavior experts have finished testifying, that we didn't already have before they appeared on the scene? It hasn't worked up to now. Why does anyone expect that it will make the slightest bit of difference in the case of the brutal killing of Travis Alexander by Jodi Ann Arias? The only purpose it serves is to help Arias get away with it.

    This stuff is just gossip on stilts. Same goes for Dr. Dick Samuels. Nobody who is walking around without an attendant should be taken in by any of it.
    Let's hope the jury falls into that group.

    Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
    Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    the editor of the NE was interviewed by NG he said he got a call from mama arias to meet, and she brought a letter and wanted to sell it, saying jodi is making her do it, that jodi believes this was her only chance for aquital and that she cried during the whole convo
    And this fits with the aggressive/blaming/bullying behavior that Jodi exhibited. Forcing her parent to join in on the lies.

    I can guarantee you the defense team is not enjoying a pleasant experience with Jodi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    Snipped for space-
    YES Coconut!! Half the shit that is coming out in this trial is Stabby's way of making their relationship public, just exactly the way she always wanted it to be! I don't think she really cares that much about the outcome. The goal was to make every little aspect of their relationship (per Jodi only) out there for everyone to see- She had to murder him. It was her ultimate control over him. "I still beat you.......brat!"


    Well that just put's it into creepy perspective now doesn't it. Any chance the jury will get to see the whole picture of JA, including these interrogation vids?

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    I got it with this Alyce person!!!

    She's on a crusade to 'OUT' everybody. That's her life's work.

    "Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    I never heard he ever went to Yreka. If he did, why didn't she introduce him to the family. Her father said he hadn't even seen a picture of him, which is weird because we've seen hundreds.
    She was referring to the time TA took Stabby to his grandmother's house. His beloved Mum Mum.

    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    This testimony is just white noise at this point. Filibuster is right.

    Instead I checked out bermstalker's timeline.

    The timeline helped shape my understanding of their relationship. Travis never really stopped dating or seeing other women, I don't think they ever really were a comitted couple in his mind. Jodi might have wanted that but was seeing other people and looking for opportunities with other men.

    What if her motivation for the killing was recognition? What if she wanted everyone (the Mormons, Travis's other girls, Prepaid Legal people, The Hughes) to know that she really was his girlfriend? The "long email" from May 16, 2008 lays out her motive for the killing.

    But I feel that I never got the proper ?credit? or recognition I deserved as your girlfriend.
    my cry for a little recognition comes from a place within me that feels it was never adequately gratified in that it thirsted to be validated not just as some girl friend that you associated with, but as your girlfriend.
    I find myself now wishing to be recognized as your friend
    you don?t even want to give my name a mention because of the unwelcome crap and comments you receive by your friends, Chris and Sky Hughes.
    I love you and I will always be here for you as your friend and confidant.[/QUOTE]


    Now the trip to Cancun with The Hugheses. Travis can't take her, I think mainly because The Hugheses will hold it against him which would harm his professional life (already suffering) and social life in the church. Yes, Jodi is jealous of Mimi, but she has tolerated other women in the past. She was not violent to Mimi or Lisa, her violence was directed at Travis. By killing him, she vented her rage at never being recognized as his girlfriend. By killing him, she showed everyone that she possessed him and now he must admit that she was/is his girlfriend.

    She has gotten her wish. Now it's all over the news that Travis's "girlfriend" or "ex-girlfriend" killed him. It's a shorter headline than overly attached psycho fuckbuddy.[/QUOTE]

    BINGO Welcome to the light my friend

    Quote Originally Posted by zeebee View Post
    First of all, is this a confirmed incident? In other words, has any reputable news source reported this (I tend not to trust the National Inquirer, silly me).

    In any case, she probably thinks they are real and I don't doubt that Jodi manipulates her.
    She provided them with either copies or snippets of the letters. She admits in her interview Flores that Stabby had mental problems, that people would call her and tell her she needed help.

    Quote Originally Posted by TeamRenew View Post
    Peg Bundy gets props for using this dimwit on the stand to make Travis seem like Ike Turner 2.0 while Jodi's the lily-white, innocent bystander.

    There's no way that the jury can be buying an ounce of this.
    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post


    I assume this is the demeanor of the jury

    when JM is objecting now, it seems he's trying to cut Ms. LV off
    Based on what people are reporting about jurors reactions/lack of note taking/lack of questions in the question basket I would agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by royals02 View Post
    I'm guessing that JW does not care in the least that she is for sure losing this jury....I'll bet they are so bored that they are totally tuning it out
    The judge and jury are going to ask Stabby to get her knife and put them out of their misery pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jillee View Post
    I HATE how the media piece-meals this shit out! Unleash the TAPES!!!
    I wonder why the tapes are not made available to anyone who asks. Does the State make money for bids on the tapes? How can HLN have access before anyone else? This is some Illuminati shit.


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    ALav has got to stop drinking the gosh dang water -- I am assuming the 5 minutes recess, once again has to do with having to pee pee --- Judge looks over at ALav during approach??

    Then Judge Stevens giving the go ahead point & nod
    Cha ching--- costing the state of AZ 5.83 per minute so 29 bucks & change for her piss


    I stand corrected--- Now ALav is sick-- probably from all the lies she is spewing out
    OR
    she bought the no name brand of depends & it leaked??
    Last edited by Cocopop; 04-03-2013 at 10:50 AM.

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