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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    I don't know about any of you, but I really hate this witness stating everything JA told her as FACT. She doesn't say "JA told me..." I was so irritated with this crap last week, that I stopped watching the trial. Plus it seems to me that the DT is going through their relationship month by month. We're only up to May 2007. I'm sick of this tactic. It's taking way too long. The longer this trial goes, the more possibilities we have of juror misconduct.

    I'm with you... she's a surrogate for JA attempting to couch Jodi's lies in a "professional disguise" and it stinks... I keep the sound down and wait for commentary or objections...

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    So many lies! In other news, Juror 5 got a permanent vacation!!

    4/‎2/‎13
    Morning-Twitter is saying that the judge and attorneys are in her chambers. Twitter said Travis' family got called back into chambers.

    It is now 10:15 in AZ, and still no court. They came back at 11:19am
    Jodi has a very snarky look on her face today. An ugly goldish sweater on. I think she trimmed her bangs over the weekend.

    Juror #5 has been excused .

    Alice is still up. Palin is up
    The Hughes Email EX 562- Jan 29-31- Alice is explaining what the email says.
    Palin asks for an approach after the state objects.
    The Hughes were discussing how Travis had a past with women and told Jodi to move on. Jodi then talks to Travis about it which in turn, Travis sends the Hughes an email.

    The email between Travis and Chris- Chris is suggesting to Travis that he mistreats Jodi, has a bad history with women and he's a big flirt. Chris doesn't think Travis is really interested in Jodi at all. The email with Sky to Travis- I guess they thought Travis had a bad history with women. Travis also talked about a woman named Brandy in the email. Travis treated her bad. The Hughes liked Jodi. (Feb 1-2,2007, Jodi showed up at Travis' house at 3am in the morning-so basically the day after the email)

    (JM is objecting every time either Palin or Alice opens their mouth. Yep, there will be no kid gloves from JM today when dealing with this bunch)

    Feb 7, 2007 Email from Jodi to Travis- EX 563- Alice thought this email was important b/c Jodi had a talk with Travis. Jodi felt like her and Travis connected and things were cleared up and they bonded. Things are cleared up between them. Jodi had hope for the relationship after that. (Weird because Jodi said her and Travis became official bf and gf on Feb 2)

    Valentine's Day-Underwear and shirt.

    Feb 18, 2007- Alice says they are an official couple. EX 438- Email. (It is so weird that I was asking for page 1 this morning. LOL) I guess Alice said- Jodi said that Travis didn't want Jodi to date a bald jew.

    Palin asks for an approach.

    Alice says that Travis was jealous and that's why Jodi wrote the email to Abe.

    May 10, 2007- Puss sex. Jodi stopped Travis b/c she thought it was a sin (LOL) and she didn't want to do it. Travis pushed her head down and she had oral sex with him. (Jodi said on the stand that they had full puss sex on this day) but now Alice says Jodi said NO.

    The jury will have security. Judge tells them to wait to be escorted out.
    Lunch

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    Had an interview this morning, but it looks like I didn't miss much. Glad I'll be here to watch the afternoon. Also glad to see that the mistrial was denied, cuz that is just stupid. They need to quit asking for one.

    I feel bad for juror #5.
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    She transitioned from a stupid asshole to a dumb bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    Thanks for posting this. For some reason I thought the letter to Abe occurred later in the relationship. This is from early 2007, and JA is already obsessively in love with Travis? Wth?
    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    I don't know about any of you, but I really hate this witness stating everything JA told her as FACT. She doesn't say "JA told me..."
    Go back and see Bermstalker's post of the bottom half of this letter. The relevant portion is in the very bottom paragraph.Notice that Alyce said boo about that!

    Alyce took everything Stabby said as FACT because she sold her soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    I don't know about any of you, but I really hate this witness stating everything JA told her as FACT. She doesn't say "JA told me..." I was so irritated with this crap last week, that I stopped watching the trial. Plus it seems to me that the DT is going through their relationship month by month. We're only up to May 2007. I'm sick of this tactic. It's taking way too long. The longer this trial goes, the more possibilities we have of juror misconduct.
    Yes! ALV sounds like she is authenticating Stabby's testimony. Appalling and transparent.

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    So Jodi performed oral at age 15, but a decade later this makes Travis a bad guy.

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    I think, if I were juror #5, I'd be quite embarrassed. I doubt that I'd show my face on TV anytime soon.
    "Juror #5, why were you bounced?"
    "Because I'm an idiot. Yes, a complete idiot. Couldn't keep my shenanigans to myself. I can only keep my shenanigans inside for so long before they just start busting out all on their own...A form of shenanigan tourettes, if you will."

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    P.S.-Has anyone else given a reach-around to a spider-monkey whilst reciting the pledge of allegiance, or is that fairly uncommon?

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    I don't feel bad for juror #5. She has escaped!!! I'd be glad.
    "...Jeffrey Dahmer... actually confessed and accepted his punishment. Had real remorse for the sick things he did. It's pretty bad when Jeffrey Dahmer is a better person than you are." ~Justice11 (re: Jodi Arias)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    Thanks for posting this. For some reason I thought the letter to Abe occurred later in the relationship. This is from early 2007, and JA is already obsessively in love with Travis? Wth?
    Seriously sick bitch huh. She still can't breath without injecting his name every minute. I don't know the psychology, but something more than just killer is off with her. Everything, every single thing we see, she's a drama queen also. She has a fight with Darryl and says, I had a nervous breakdown. Her parents ground her, OMG, suicide thoughts. Normal anxiety she calls terror.
    Histrionic with psycho mixed in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    no idea yet - guess we will find out on hln - prolly tonight
    And can you imagine what she'll think now she's able to see what we've seen, but have been held from those jurors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HelloItsMe View Post
    Yeah. I transcribed the phone sex call this weekend. Really don't think Travis would want her to wear Spiderman undies or shorts, whatever they were. Here's that portion of the conversation...

    Jodi: Have you seen Iron Man?

    Travis: Yeah

    Jodi: How is it?

    Travis: As far as super hero movies go, it was good.

    Jodi: What's that?

    Travis: As far as super hero movies go, it was good.

    Jodi: Oh

    Travis: Like, I'm not a huge fan of super hero movies, obviously.

    Jodi: Yeah, I mean? I like? I love Xmen

    Travis: Oh. Yeah, wow.

    Jodi: Did we say that at the same time?

    Travis: Yeah

    Jodi: That was trippy. Those are great movies though.

    Travis: Yeah, they're the best. I'm actually not a big fan of Spiderman.

    Jodi: Yeah, I like the storyline, but I don't like sitting through all the movie. Remember you made fun of me when I was crying when his best friend died? I was sad that you made fun of me because I got into the actual story. I was like, 'he's so insensitive'. (laughs)

    Travis: Who likes Spiderman though?

    Jodi: I know, but I didn't see it as that. I saw it as a love story. A story between? Like, what really jerks me was the way they had become friends?they were best friends that were enemies, that finally they understood why they hated each other. And so there was no reason for it anymore. But, then he died. So, he didn't get to enjoy the fruit of that discovery, which would have been the mending of their friendship. (laughs) Anyway. (laughs) Ok, go on.

    Travis: And then uh.. Yeah, I don't like the Spidermans at all. I don't like the Supermans. I don't like the Fantastic Four because [unintelligible] I'm uh... Well, you like the Xmen. The Xmen are good, right. So, I will give you that. Batman is okay. But, Xmen are my favorite.
    And that didn't catch Alyce's attention? At all?

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    Judges thoughts..."Why are you standing here?"
    Anyone notice that Nurmi seems to have gained a third chin over the long weekend? Did he eat the Easter Bunny?

    Quote Originally Posted by UncomfortablyNumb View Post
    Had an interview this morning, but it looks like I didn't miss much. Glad I'll be here to watch the afternoon. Also glad to see that the mistrial was denied, cuz that is just stupid. They need to quit asking for one.

    I feel bad for juror #5.
    Sorry but I don't. She should have kept her mouth shut.
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    i came late to the party, what happened to juror #5?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Seriously sick bitch huh. She still can't breath without injecting his name every minute. I don't know the psychology, but something more than just killer is off with her. Everything, every single thing we see, she's a drama queen also. She has a fight with Darryl and says, I had a nervous breakdown. Her parents ground her, OMG, suicide thoughts. Normal anxiety she calls terror.
    Histrionic with psycho mixed in?
    Agreed. Don't forget that time when Stabby says a drunk girl fell into Travis and she had to weep and cry in the bathroom for 30 minutes and compose herself. Ugh. She's annoying and pathetic. And weak. I'm so over this trial, but I can't stop watching. Guess that makes me weak too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smurfy View Post
    What did juror #5 do?
    She failed to heed the sacred Admonition in some way or the other. It will come out in due course. I don't think it's fatal to the Prosecution. I think that Travis's family is so weary and so full of stress and apprehension that they see things going against them that actually aren't. I saw that years ago at the trial of the person's accused of murdering my friend's brother and had to spend a lot of time convincing him to stop seeing every little thing as favoring the defense. The killers got convicted and got life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post

    May 10, 2007- Puss sex. Jodi stopped Travis b/c she thought it was a sin (LOL) and she didn't want to do it. Travis pushed her head down and she had oral sex with him. (Jodi said on the stand that they had full puss sex on this day) but now Alice says Jodi said NO.
    Thats what I'm thinking! Where did this "Jodi stood up for herself and said no" crap come from?
    Plus doesn't that go against the DV argument? I thought she had low self esteem and did whatever Travis wanted (according to defense)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mousy View Post
    So Jodi performed oral at age 15, but a decade later this makes Travis a bad guy.
    Well he was a big flirt and we all know how abusive that is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Sorry but I don't. She should have kept her mouth shut.
    I see that viewpoint for sure. There's no way I could be a juror. I talk waaaaaay too much.
    Quote Originally Posted by bowieluva View Post
    She transitioned from a stupid asshole to a dumb bitch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Does anybody know where part 1 of the Abe email is at? I have the 2nd page, but can't find the first page.

    Here's what page 2 says

    Re: Jodi Letter : God, she just thinks she is soooooo important...

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    Thanks everyone for the links to live feeds. It is a truth universally acknowledged that once one complains about technology on the board, it will magically start working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Thats what I'm thinking! Where did this "Jodi stood up for herself and said no" crap come from?
    Plus doesn't that go against the DV argument? I thought she had low self esteem and did whatever Travis wanted (according to defense)
    Stabby also testified that during their sexual encounters anytime she asked TA to STOP that he did. This despite Nurmi's efforts to get her to say otherwise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    And can you imagine what she'll think now she's able to see what we've seen, but have been held from those jurors?
    I'd be veeeeery interested to hear what she has to say.

    I keep imagining her coming out of the building and being chased down the street by the media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UncomfortablyNumb View Post
    I see that viewpoint for sure. There's no way I could be a juror. I talk waaaaaay too much.
    I am the same way. My opinion shows on my FACE...even when I'm reading a book, people can tell whether I like what I'm reading or not. Thankfully, I've never had to sit for jury duty. Yet. (knock on wood) In this case, I hope that Juror #5 comes out immediately vs. waiting (if she's allowed to). That way, she can clear the air in her own defense and tell us what she thought of the proceedings thus far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Jodi still studying the remaining jury, making notes - probably on who's next......
    I see that... like it's her job to skim them out, one by one. Seems like she got her way this time, & who's to say she doesn't con't to find fault with all of the one's she feels are not buying what she is selling.
    It's prolly hard to control one's facial expressions when testimony is given, & JA is taking note of all of it, she seems as though she no longer is paying attention to ALav, but just looking for reaction from the jury as it's being given.
    I'd love to get a hold of that yellow note book, the writings in it must be incredibly profound.
    Quote Originally Posted by ImBatman! View Post
    I'm kind of glad that I missed all last week....I caught some parts and this all still sounds the same!!! And I am frustrated cause my crap computer won't support both a live feed and MDS today. So I chose MDS!!!
    Good Choice !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    I only got the top half and lost feed


    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Does anybody know where part 1 of the Abe email is at? I have the 2nd page, but can't find the first page.

    Here's what page 2 says
    are not in a committed relationship, but regardless of our status, I care so deeply about his. I often ask myself, how would Travis feel about this? Or, how I would I feel if Travis were doing what I'm doing right now with someone else? In fact, this reasoning has been a compelling force behind all of my actions, decisions and conduct as of late.

    Now I'm sure you're already aware of this, but when we hugged at the Grove a few weeks ago, my intention was nothing more than to warmly greet a friend and business associate. But I've since given this further thought and I've asked myself, would I have acted the same if Travis were there that day? In truth, I would not have. And this leads me to question my own character. I don't want to be inconsistent, especially not when it involves something and someone that is so important to me. Granted, human behavior is often modified and adjusted under various circumstances. Everyone does this, it is natural. But at this point, none of that matters to me. What matters to me is how that which I am accountable for would make Travis feel. I care more about him than I ever have. His happiness is of cardinal significance to me, and his feelings and opinions I value more greatly than gold.

    I didn't write this email to expound upon my secret worship-Travis-agenda. I only wanted to clear a few things up, if not for you, then for myself. For I'm sure you already "get" all of this anyway. But at least now I've said it, and I can rest easier knowing that we are on the same page about things. I think you're a great person who's never had a single bad intention toward me, and I appreciate all of the time you've taken to impart to me your knowledge, prespectives, and experiences. I will certainly see you around at events, to which you bring a lively energy.
    Take care until then, Jodi
    I hope JM points out the bolded portion to Alyce
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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    Thats what I'm thinking! Where did this "Jodi stood up for herself and said no" crap come from?
    Plus doesn't that go against the DV argument? I thought she had low self esteem and did whatever Travis wanted (according to defense)
    The fact that Travis and Hughes and Jodi had the email war going on-and Jodi shows up at Travis' house the next day at 3am in the morning for her "surprise" visit. The one where she said he was happy to see her.

    Why is Jodi writing an email to Travis explaining about her feelings and they were talking about how wrong he has been on Feb 7, when by Jodi's own words they were an official couple on Feb 2?

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