I know someone has the link. Hodi was trying to get JW's attention by pointing out a juror. I swear it was last week sometime.Originally Posted by ImBatman!
I know someone has the link. Hodi was trying to get JW's attention by pointing out a juror. I swear it was last week sometime.
She said she attacked a ninja too. She's a liar, I don't work that hard to try to find 'truth' in her, it isn't in her. I prefer to look at the facts, not make up a whole new movie by cherry picking from her BS
lies lies and more lies
Gas cans
Built an alibi
Stolen gun
Cover up
Confession
My conclusion - she planned and killed him in cold blood.
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
took me a couple of days to realise so no you're not the only one
The physical body of a male has no idea what it's religion it is, just that it full of chemicals to set off the urge.I don't know for sure why anybody would take Lisa's email serious??!! The girl got scared when Travis got a freaking woody when they were making out.
The girl was naive about sex/and men. The letter she wrote sounded like a bunch of jr high school kid drama.
Lisa admitted that.
People act like they are surprised Travis liked sex.uh, Mormon's like sex as much as Amish, Baptist, Pentecostal, Atheists, and devil worshippers.
I always laugh at the facebook comments that claim Jodi sucked him in with her magical puss power. Who knows-maybe Travis sucked Jodi in with his magical sexual powers.
I doubt seriously either of them just stepped off the virgin truck.
Made some notes on Matt from Cross exam of JA starting on Day 21. Some are actual dialog, some paraphrased notes.
August 4 2011
ALV hearing pedo pics
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_detailpage&v=8PboeQxoY3o#t=118
58s
Matt brought up
Magazine smuggle attempt to Ann Campbell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_detailpage&v=8PboeQxoY3o#t=122
41s
Day 22 covers a lot about Matt
[not Matt directy but of interest in court this day]
@1:26 JM drilling JA about sending grandma flowers
JM mistakenly says 'killing her'
Nurmi objects, sustained, judge calls lunch recess, after jury leaves, approach requested
@1:27 JA sitting on stand but long side bar
papers being handled back and forth among judge, Nurmi, JM
judge calls over court staff [the gal with long brn hair that collects jury questions]
1:30:10
Nurmi kneels at witness stand, talks to JA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXlgv...ilpage#t=5484s
1:31 jury back JM goes into 18 page letter
Matt directly
Choking / Neck Bruises @2:57
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXlgv...lpage#t=10620s
JM and you didn't tell anybody correct
JA I did tell someone
JM who did you tell Ma'am
JA I told Matt
JM you told Matt McCartney right
JA shakes head affirmative
JM that day you told MM
JA no
JM you told MM when June 2 of 2008
JA no
JM When did you tell MM
JA I saw him a few days later and he
called me out on all the bruises that were on me.
JM and with regard to HIS statements, Do you know whether, do you know why it is that when asked about that particular incident he claimed no knowledge of it, do you know anything about that.
Nurmi objection improper hearsay improper
Overruled, you may answer
JM do you know why he would claim no knowledge of that
Objection, calls for speculation why he would claim
Sustained
JM so you don't know whether or not he when interviewed whether or not he admitted to knowing about that
Objection ... may we approach
after long side bar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=vXlgvVxgFlE&feature=player_detailpage#t=108
23s
JM Ma'am you had ah, well you've had, you've spoken to Mr M haven't you
JA yes
JM and in fact he's visited you at, in jail right
JA Yes
JM and in fact he's even tape recorded you hasn't he
JA yes
JM ah and you've also had telephone conversations with him haven't you
JA yes
JM and in fact you and he have discussed this issue about whether or not you had brusing around the neck right?
JA pause, looks up, not during the jail visits but yes
JM But you have discussed it haven't you
JA yes
JM and have you discussed whether or not he has spoken to ANY LE individuals regarding the bruises on the neck? Have you and he had that conversation?
JA Ummm, what was the question?
JM Whether you and Mr McCartney have discussed whether or not he has told anyone about this supposed bruising around the neck?
JM I believe we had a discussion somewhat like that.
JM and when was that discussion?
JA [pause, makes faces, looks up, won't look at JM] Umm, I don't remember .... pause, after the incident
JM Where was this conversation, was it over the phone or in person ...
JA plays games between Matt phone "two - three days after the incident" and "2-3 days after Matt confronted her about bruises"
JA accuses JM of being fixated on phone call "there was no phone call"
JM is mixed up in her games of telelphone calls after incident and after Matt saw bruises, when she left AZ, when she saw MM, when she was in Yreka, if there was a telephone call, there wasn't a telephone call
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
3:07:19
Nurmi throws head back
more questions more games from the killer evading and vague
JM is this the time you turn around and come back or the time you leave
JA can't remember would have to look at text msgs dates things like that..
More JA evading and vague to questions on leaving AZ route, sleeping in truck, meeting with Gus, Matt and Darryl, slept during the day, slept during night, JM there's only one night and you told us you were in Hollister by dinner, etc
JA knows she was in Hollister the night that long text msg came through
Cant remember where she slept but I remember going to Matt's and Darryl's that morning with my Uhaul truck
When they get to time of arriving sister's in Hollister JM 'so around 6 then' Nurmi mumbles something
She must have really screwed up something ... Nurmi waves her off!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_detailpage&v=vXlgvVxgFlE#t=116
50s
Met Matt first
Did Mr Brewer see bruises
No I had make up on
well isn't that what you had with Mr McCartney too.
Betray - Ally
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_detailpage&v=vXlgvVxgFlE#t=290
3s
JM Mr McCartney knows somebody that .. well
(stops)But he's one of your allies right
Nurmi throws pen again
475
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXlgv...lpage#t=11819s
JA always takes glasses off to look more like her 48 hrs spotlight
Judge: Objection?
Nurmi: NONE NOW (totally disgusted throws his
pen)
Judge: counsel approach
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
feature=player_detailpage&v=vXlgvVxgFlE#t=119
42s
JA expressions - she knows she's really screwed up with her DT's anger.
Aw, so much work to try to keep her lies straight. Poor baby is getting all red and headache. But she remembers to take her glasses off for her spotlight again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXlgv...lpage#t=12873s
476
JM moves to enter 'based on previous confersation'
Nurmi: .. what note page correclates with this?
JM: 6, as has been previously provided
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
I noticed that right-handed attempt at writing. If anyone's interested it's on Tape 17/18, along with the sandwich performance. However, did you or anyone notice that her production was probably only five or six lines of script? Jodi Arias was given the pad and the writing instrument in response to her rather (false) wistful comment that she wished she could somehow console Travis's family by 'telling them what happened; from the heart.' (I'm paraphrasing. This was just after disclosing the Ninja story, wasn't it?) Left alone to do so, she came up with nothing. It seems that her most fulsome and creative lying is triggered most effectively in response to the stimuli of questions from others--a skill she has obviously perfected over a lifetime. That's totally consistent with her performance on the witness stand. The real heavy-duty lethal damage, (the 18 page letter to Travis's family), took more time than what was allowed to her in the interrogation room. All she managed to do there is to demolish the sandwich and try to steal a few sheets of paper and, of course, bamboozle the female detective who confronted her with an appeal to ease the suffering of Travis's parents who were already deceased. Jodi Arias knew that, but let the detective carry on for quite a while before informing her of that fact. She must have secretly savored those triumphant little psycho moments while she was playing the detective. Was it a sign of how demented she is? Imagine how difficult it must have been for Travis to come to recognize those traits as an essential ingredient of Jodi Arias's character, especially coming just a few short months after he had assured his skeptical friends, the Hughes's that, "Yes! She is that nice." Shortly thereafter, his life was over.
ETA:It would be good to hear it first-hand from someone who heard it from Travis--and believed it. Jodi Arias is the only one who goes on and on about it and her description of being a 'couple,' 'being in a committed relationship, etc.' has such a perverse tone to it that it doesn't resonate in any way with what I've experienced, understand and recognize as boyfriend/girlfriend togetherness.
You asked a good question.
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"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
I'm brand new here. And totally obsessed with this case. I can't even go pick my kid up from school and walk away from the computer....I have to have it on my iphone so I can listen while I'm waiting for her to get out!
Bottom line, she's guilty as hell. And I get irritated just looking at her.
one question I have...I had a thought the other day, if she ends up being convicted of something lesser than 1st degree murder, is there a chance she could walk? (with time served?). I just had the thought of manslaughter or something....the hag could be let out!?!?!
NO NO NO NO. Talk of mistrial as jutor with multi colored hair discussed proceedings with other jurors!!! Nurmi filed over weekend! Please don't let this happened. On schedule for today
Freaking scary as hell if there is a mistrial!
12News Phoenix reporter
Chris Williams@chriswnews15h
My observation: #JodiArias juror No.5 seemed actively involved, taking notes, making eye contact w/ #Arias from time to time until recentlyDeborah Merritt@TRACECOWGIRL14h
@chriswnews my hope other jurors turned her in to get her off the jury! many said she was always smiling at JODI ARIAS.
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
sorry hit too fast meant to include Williamsw response to "many said"
Chris Williams@chriswnews
then "many" wasn't in the ctroom much or exaggerated. I'd say, of them all, she's the 1 I thought would be most 4 her though
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
Welcome KatFrom what I know about this case is there are two 1st degree charges Murder in first DP and felony murder LWOP and there is a lesser 2nd degree charge that would set her free after some time, I believe you are right and it is manslaughter. Hope that helps.
Hln is reporting a possible mistrial now because of jury misconduct. Seems the younger female juror with the multi colored hair may have said something to another juror. Just briefly caught this on my way out the door this morning. Does anybody have more info??
If I was on that jury, I'd have my nervous breakdown by now. I can't fathom how they are able to not make a sound about anything, go home with their daily knowledge in their head, yet speak nary a word. Their minds must be in continual conflict. How can they shut all thoughts out and go with their daily lives?
video report
http://www.azfamily.com/video/?id=20...mod&sec=507087
I posted the motion and report earlier too
http://media2.abc15.com/html/pdf/AriasJuror.pdf
http://www.abc15.com/dpp/news/region...ror-misconduct
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
Welcome Kat!
I know what you mean, I can't stand to look at her either. I'm watching the interrogation videos now and it's disgusting how she behaves, the way she thinks she can pull the wool over Det. Flores eyes.
I'm panicking about the mistrial possibility. Simply cannot happen!
I just wonder how they can keep away from tv/radio/internet, like they say they have to!? That'd drive me nuts to not be able to sneak a peak at what the news shows are saying!
Yeah, I almost got picked for jury duty down there before. They got us into a little room and were about to ask us the questions then sent us back down because the attorneys weren't ready. I can only imagine 4 months of this and not being able to even discuss it with my spouse, friends or family. That would get old very quickly. Heck, you can't even discuss it juror to juror. You are truly a man without a land so to speak.
I think all of this is why the jury should have been sequestered!
I think the admonition would be hard if the trial lasted a couple weeks, it must be even harder with it going on for so long. My best guess is that they probably do fudge a little, I just don't see how they can not at least talk to their closest friends and family about it. If it were me, I could not hold back talking to my spouse about it. I can not imagine being asked every night, "So, how was your day?" and not being able to say anything about it. I bet even Judge Stephens if she is married talks to her spouse about the trial.
1. Money, if they can't afford more Judges to free up scheudules where would the high cost of many months of sequestration come from?
2. Sequestration was a nightmare in the last high profile trial, it had the jurors hating each other, bullies took over and worst of all - they never even deliberated because they wanted out so fast.
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
Right on! Nothing she says leads to the truth. Who cares if some of her 'facts' are accurate. They're only tossed in there to prop up another lie.
"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
We were all virgins at one time. At some point, didn't we all let someone grab our ass?
Defense is really just trying to rid the jury of a female juror who isn't mesmerized by Arias and is obviously not likely to vote with Arias.
The rest is smoke, imo.
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