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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    OMG, went back before that part. I swear if you look up AIRHEAD, it lists J Willmott

    Juan objects leading.
    Mutt: huh, you mean you want me to lead him, would that be easier?"

    How the hell did she pass the bar exam? She doesn't even know how to ask a question or the most standard Rule of Procedure! She should have gave more attention to studying LAW instead of which color highlighter is cute for the day.
    Worse yet, she's TEACHING other attys to do this ( I need a smh face)
    If I had paid to take her class, and watched this....I would want my money back and then some

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    I am feeling the same way. I think their questions will be very telling.
    I don't think they'll be too telling. I think they will ask questions that have already been addressed, they just want to refresh their memory on things.
    The first question is likely "why didn't you retest her?". Don't forget, he's had all evening and night to come up with his so called answers. If court had continued yesterday, he had only about an hour to review the questions, so less time to prep the answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    I find your comment about Travis' friends offensive. Everyone claims that Travis was a terrific guy and they loved him, not hang together everyday BFF's. The Hughes' were in Cancun and were getting worried they couldn't reach him. I believe other friends were also in Cancun, I heard 100 people won the free trip. Mimi went looking because she was supposed to be going with him.
    LOL, I never brought up the Hughes so your use of them has nothing to do with my post.

    LOL like you know all his self claimed 'friends" yourself? Can you tell me if any are from the ppl group we heard Travis say he didn't like? If you think everyone that ever met Travis doesn't include sychophants you are really naive. Travis was a public speaker. Just hearing him speak doesn't make them any more his 'friend' that JA was his 'friend'.
    The other night they had on two with a picture and asked, did you take the picture, .. #1 duh 'no' so they ask the other one .. #2 duh, 'no I wasn't there that night.' Don't think you've seen the end of them, you haven't. There's cockroaches still in the woodwork.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Hi Doll,
    My guess would be drunks wouldn't be considered reliable witnesses. Might be asking for more trouble than it is worth at this stage.
    For the record, the drunken lady is now reporting Jodi confronted her the NEXT day, not the same night. We also know Travis was not a drinker to the point he has an adversion to those who do!
    She is claiming Travis was 'like a younger brother'. Travis referred to her (sex tape) as a drunk! That didn't sound like he thought highly of her or even liked her. It isn't the only time Travis let us know he can't stand drinkers either. It was his main complaint about another group of ppl the used conference /training to get drunk and called them 'soulless' for it.
    Wasn't Clancy the big boobed drunk lady that was hanging all over Travis at the PPL meeting-wearing the black low cut dress? I think so b/c there is a picture of her with Travis----at that PPL event. I hope so b/c I already added her to my blog under the recap of the day Jodi talked about the drunk, big boobed lady. LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Okay, I've been thinking about this...a LOT...still trying to understand how she could have done this, and why. One thing I've wondered about many times is why she never asked for an attorney while being interviewed by Flores, not even after she was informed she was being charged with murder, or the next day during the 2nd interview. She knew she could ask for one at any time. The only reason I could think of was she thought she didn't need no stinkin' lawyer, she could talk her own way out of this! This is not the thought process of a rational person, this is GRANDIOSE THINKING, one of the hallmarks of mania. Could she be bipolar?

    It would explain the bizarre behavior on the newly released interview tapes, the rapid speaking, the restlessness/constantly moving around. Lookin back I think she might have started spiraling into a manic state when she wrote that long rambling email to the girl Travis was dating where she rants about 'whoredom' etc. To me this is classic manic behavior too.

    What do you all think? Any of our mental health professionals care to weigh in?
    I always thought it was because of that saying "I Had the Right to Remain Silent...But I Didn't Have the Ability"

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    Would love also to know WTF this is about!

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    Quote Originally Posted by qtkitycat View Post
    Not like she didn't have any connections at Pre-Paid Legal, I'm sure Gus would have come runnin to save her in a heart beat..lol
    Nah! Gus was too busy with his own messy personal life, as evidenced by the Judge Judy episode that was posted here yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    I don't think they'll be too telling. I think they will ask questions that have already been addressed, they just want to refresh their memory on things.
    The first question is likely "why didn't you retest her?". Don't forget, he's had all evening and night to come up with his so called answers. If court had continued yesterday, he had only about an hour to review the questions, so less time to prep the answers.
    The great thing about the jury questions is that the judge is the one to read them, and the lawyers cannot interrupt. And he has to just answer the question, and not add all sorts of "fluff" into things. Facing the judge and jury, alone, is a more sobering experience, I would imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Okay, I've been thinking about this...a LOT...still trying to understand how she could have done this, and why. One thing I've wondered about many times is why she never asked for an attorney while being interviewed by Flores, not even after she was informed she was being charged with murder, or the next day during the 2nd interview. She knew she could ask for one at any time. The only reason I could think of was she thought she didn't need no stinkin' lawyer, she could talk her own way out of this! This is not the thought process of a rational person, this is GRANDIOSE THINKING, one of the hallmarks of mania. Could she be bipolar?

    It would explain the bizarre behavior on the newly released interview tapes, the rapid speaking, the restlessness/constantly moving around. Lookin back I think she might have started spiraling into a manic state when she wrote that long rambling email to the girl Travis was dating where she rants about 'whoredom' etc. To me this is classic manic behavior too.

    What do you all think? Any of our mental health professionals care to weigh in?
    All your questions will be answered in the 2nd trial when the defense goes with an insanity plea. I see no reason to end this with a jury decision when lots of $ can be made in a new trial.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    The great thing about the jury questions is that the judge is the one to read them, and the lawyers cannot interrupt. And he has to just answer the question, and not add all sorts of "fluff" into things. Facing the judge and jury, alone, is a more sobering experience, I would imagine.
    ^^THIS^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    Nah! Gus was too busy with his own messy personal life, as evidenced by the Judge Judy episode that was posted here yesterday

    What thread was it posted in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie View Post
    All your questions will be answered in the 2nd trial when the defense goes with an insanity plea. I see no reason to end this with a jury decision when lots of $ can be made in a new trial.
    It's soooooo tempting to feed them! "Meg, who let you back in the house!!??"

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Wasn't Clancy the big boobed drunk lady that was hanging all over Travis at the PPL meeting-wearing the black low cut dress? I think so b/c there is a picture of her with Travis----at that PPL event. I hope so b/c I already added her to my blog under the recap of the day Jodi talked about the drunk, big boobed lady. LOL
    I'm thinking she was, Jodi just conveniently left out of her testimony that she confronted her in a bathroom the next day

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    Seriously, ASPD scares the crap out of my. Why? Because, although I probably shouldn't, I call it the "serial killer disorder." Pretty much every serial killer I have read about has been diagnosed with that. Plus, the aspects of that disorder are just crazy to me - especially the complete disregard for others and their feelings, space, well-being or harm. Just makes me SO sad and...well...its kinda terrifying.
    I don't think you should worry too much about it. Most people with ASPD never kill anybody. Serial killers are few and far between. We hear a lot about them because they are scary and sort of fascinating, but they are very rare.

    Most people with ASPD just use others. You should definitely pay attention, evaluate people and look for red flags. DEFINITELY not a good idea to get in a relationship with one. But for the most part, people with ASPD are more likely to manipulate you into giving them money, a place to live or helping them in some other way, rather than kill you. They do ruin lives if you get too involved with them, because they take and take and take, not because they kill.

    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    You can buy a doctorate in biopsychology? Where?

    I am going to say this again, dr. Samuels has impeccable credentials. Not only does he have a doctorate, he has post doc fellowships. He has diplomats status in two or three sub specialty areas. Yeah, he has been sloppy. Yeah, he is sided with the defense. The problem here is JA and her level of deception. She has a way of seducing good people into helping her. As I said about thirty pages ago, he is in over his head. Murder and deception isn't his forte.
    I agree. He got in over his head and he did not have good boundaries to begin with. I think he fell for her little act and sincerely feels sorry for her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    First she must be convicted of murder 1, then they hold a trial to decide the penalty. Most of the evidence towards premeditation is circumstantial. Not that circumstantial evidence won't convict her, but it must be beyond a reasonable doubt. Is everyone convinced beyond a reasonable doubt yet? I'm still hanging on the fence.
    I'm convinced even if I have to take into consideration that killing Travis was only one of a number of crazy fantasy scenarios Jodi Arias developed, particularly during the period May 26 - June 4, 2008. Killing Travis wasn't her principal objective in going to see him--obviously she went there in pursuit of her principal objective--to somehow re-engineer Travis to obsess on her the same way she obsessed on him. As much as she couldn't stand the thought of not being the one and only in Travis's life, she couldn't bear the thought that some other woman/person could be. The whole sub-text of her complaints to him about not acknowledging her to his friends and associates as his 'special friend' and for not publicly proclaiming what she did for him has been subsumed within the mountain of other proof of motive, but it pretty well settles it for me. Jodi Arias could not stand the agony brought on by the thought of living without Travis Alexander, but, more than that, she could not stand the torment of Travis living on, happily, without her. That's a powerful force behind all of her stalking antics. It's a theme that has been offered in Literature/Drama, (See the 19th. century Swedish Playwright August Strindberg) as a reason for people fighting to remain together through long and desperately unhappy marriages. As much as some people hate being with their husband/wife, they hate even more the thought of the object of their hatred being happy apart from them. Jodi Arias is a throwback. Never mind her efforts to euphemistically present herself as a modern, emancipated female. Her whole being is anchored in her dependency upon relationships with 'her' men. I think the thought of Travis Alexander happily living on without her, while not the only element, was certainly a strong force in propelling Jodi Arias to consider doing what she finally did. It may have been a contingency, contrary to how she hoped things would turn out, but I'm convinced a plan to destroy Travis's life was in the back of her mind and she prepared herself to carry it out if it became necessary. That's motive premeditation and the physical preparations she made to execute her contingency plan proves premeditation, beyond any reasonable doubt, to me.

    I'll quit now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Okay, I've been thinking about this...a LOT...still trying to understand how she could have done this, and why. One thing I've wondered about many times is why she never asked for an attorney while being interviewed by Flores, not even after she was informed she was being charged with murder, or the next day during the 2nd interview. She knew she could ask for one at any time. The only reason I could think of was she thought she didn't need no stinkin' lawyer, she could talk her own way out of this! This is not the thought process of a rational person, this is GRANDIOSE THINKING, one of the hallmarks of mania. Could she be bipolar?

    It would explain the bizarre behavior on the newly released interview tapes, the rapid speaking, the restlessness/constantly moving around. Lookin back I think she might have started spiraling into a manic state when she wrote that long rambling email to the girl Travis was dating where she rants about 'whoredom' etc. To me this is classic manic behavior too.

    What do you all think? Any of our mental health professionals care to weigh in?
    Sociopath, similiar to I am smarter than the world Bundy. Or on a smaller scale, sociopath Drew Peterson, laughing and waving like the media draws were his personal rock star fans.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Would love also to know WTF this is about!

    3/4/2013 LET - Letter - Party (001) 3/7/2013
    NOTE: RE:VOICEMAIL RECORDING ON JUDFE STEPHENS DIVISIONS PH


    http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.go...s/caseInfo.asp
    hum, guessing its someone numbskull inserting themselves into the trial. Might be why the Justice page had to beg please, the court and JM don't need any help please do not contact them. JM has it covered.
    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    Wasn't Clancy the big boobed drunk lady that was hanging all over Travis at the PPL meeting-wearing the black low cut dress? I think so b/c there is a picture of her with Travis----at that PPL event. I hope so b/c I already added her to my blog under the recap of the day Jodi talked about the drunk, big boobed lady. LOL



    I always thought it was because of that saying "I Had the Right to Remain Silent...But I Didn't Have the Ability"
    Yup, as usual you are right on top of things, that's her alright.

    Quote Originally Posted by qtkitycat View Post
    Worse yet, she's TEACHING other attys to do this ( I need a smh face)
    If I had paid to take her class, and watched this....I would want my money back and then some
    Well, pet rocks were a big hit once too and took a lot of people's money. : )
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    SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA
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    Docket Code 012
    12:00 p.m. Court convenes in
    chambers with Defendant and respective counsel present.
    Also present is Dr. Richard Samuels and Defendant mitigation specialist.
    Argument is presented on issues in Dr. Samuels testimony.
    IT IS ORDERED taking the matter under advisement.
    12:14 p.m. Court
    stands in recess.
    1:28 p.m. Court convenes in chambers with Defendant counsel present.
    Discussion is held.
    IT IS ORDERED the hearing from 1:28 p.m. to 1:33 p.m. to remain sealed until further
    order of the Court

    http://www.courtminutes.maricopa.gov...3/m5685375.pdf

    Oh to be a fly on wall while that was going on!
    Wouldn't this likely be the day they were fighting over numbnuts quack trying to play a crimninologist? or one man jury with his reactive or premed BS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metis212 View Post
    You can buy a doctorate in biopsychology? Where?

    I am going to say this again, dr. Samuels has impeccable credentials. Not only does he have a doctorate, he has post doc fellowships. He has diplomats status in two or three sub specialty areas. Yeah, he has been sloppy. Yeah, he is sided with the defense. The problem here is JA and her level of deception. She has a way of seducing good people into helping her. As I said about thirty pages ago, he is in over his head. Murder and deception isn't his forte.
    I don't doubt anything said about his academic credentials but, on a personal level, he came off as being pretty lazy and was doing just the minimum of what he ought to have done to earn his $250.00 per hour. He obviously doesn't have the professional zeal that he might have brought to his practice in the earlier years of his career.
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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    Okay, I've been thinking about this...a LOT...still trying to understand how she could have done this, and why. One thing I've wondered about many times is why she never asked for an attorney while being interviewed by Flores, not even after she was informed she was being charged with murder, or the next day during the 2nd interview. She knew she could ask for one at any time. The only reason I could think of was she thought she didn't need no stinkin' lawyer, she could talk her own way out of this! This is not the thought process of a rational person, this is GRANDIOSE THINKING, one of the hallmarks of mania. Could she be bipolar?

    It would explain the bizarre behavior on the newly released interview tapes, the rapid speaking, the restlessness/constantly moving around. Lookin back I think she might have started spiraling into a manic state when she wrote that long rambling email to the girl Travis was dating where she rants about 'whoredom' etc. To me this is classic manic behavior too.

    What do you all think? Any of our mental health professionals care to weigh in?
    Narcissists also have grandiose type thinking, and she is an extreme narcissist. I do not think she is bipolar.

    I think she did not ask for an attorney because she thought she could talk her way out of it, and she thought asking for an attorney would make her look "guilty". So not asking for one (in her mind) kept up her charade of "I didn't do this, and I have nothing to hide".

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    . Everyone claims already to be his "best friend". Yet a guy with so many claiming they were so tight with him, didn't bother missing him for almost a week while he's laying dead. it was only Mimi who grew concerned enough to get off her ass and check on him.




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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    I find your comment about Travis' friends offensive. Everyone claims that Travis was a terrific guy and they loved him, not hang together everyday BFF's. The Hughes' were in Cancun and were getting worried they couldn't reach him. I believe other friends were also in Cancun, I heard 100 people won the free trip. Mimi went looking because she was supposed to be going with him.
    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    LOL, I never brought up the Hughes so your use of them has nothing to do with my post.

    LOL like you know all his self claimed 'friends" yourself? Can you tell me if any are from the ppl group we heard Travis say he didn't like? If you think everyone that ever met Travis doesn't include sychophants you are really naive. Travis was a public speaker. Just hearing him speak doesn't make them any more his 'friend' that JA was his 'friend'.
    The other night they had on two with a picture and asked, did you take the picture, .. #1 duh 'no' so they ask the other one .. #2 duh, 'no I wasn't there that night.' Don't think you've seen the end of them, you haven't. There's cockroaches still in the woodwork.
    You said that Mimi was the only one of his friends who cared enough to go looking for Travis for almost a week. I was pointing out that others were worried, but they were in Mexico.
    Yes, HLN is bringing out eveyone they can find that bring something new to their 24 hr. Jodi Arias coverage, but there's no reason to be calling them sychophants and cockroaches.


    Why don't you just own your words?

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    Quote Originally Posted by *crickets* View Post
    . . The only reason I could think of was she thought she didn't need no stinkin' lawyer, she could talk her own way out of this! This is not the thought process of a rational person, this is GRANDIOSE THINKING, one of the hallmarks of mania. Could she be bipolar?

    It would explain the bizarre behavior on the newly released interview tapes, the rapid speaking, the restlessness/constantly moving around. Lookin back I think she might have started spiraling into a manic state when she wrote that long rambling email to the girl Travis was dating where she rants about 'whoredom' etc. To me this is classic manic behavior too.

    What do you all think? Any of our mental health professionals care to weigh in?
    Not a professional, but experienced with 4 years of living with a bipolar girl. I do see some similarity in persona watching this trainwreck. I do know that on a down phase, turning on someone with uglyness can happen too, this could explain the killing depending on severity of the condition. Looking at the goofy interrogation video...might be rather significant bipolar.

    Now regarding jury questions...I'd love to see one asking if she was tested for psychopathy, sociopathy, pathological lying, etc. Also, if the good Doc's testing showed that she wasnt guilty of stealing a gun and flying under the radar for a stealthy visit to Travis' house or not. Would be interesting what he would say to that question, lol.

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    [***JiLL****said:Today*10:24 AM*Originally Posted by*Brillig*Confronted the woman and physically blocked her exit from the bathroom, to the point where the woman felt uncomfortable.So much for Stabby not being assertive back then...I saw her on NG last night, do we know if it's the same woman from the story Jodi told in court, or is she a different one??]

    Playing devil's advocate for a sec..Everyone is looking for their 15 minutes. There are going to be ppl that saw the signs and yada yada yada. I don't put much stock into who is on NG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    I don't think they'll be too telling. I think they will ask questions that have already been addressed, they just want to refresh their memory on things.
    The first question is likely "why didn't you retest her?". Don't forget, he's had all evening and night to come up with his so called answers. If court had continued yesterday, he had only about an hour to review the questions, so less time to prep the answers.
    Possibly. But if there are snarky questions (like there were for Stabby), I think that will mean something.

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    www.azfamily.com will not come up, constantly loading grr.

    What are the other online sites to watch the trial? TIA

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheesh View Post
    Man, I'm telling you this Jodi Arias is a sicko killer...

    The more I see of her "behind the scenes" the more I'm reminded of this killer:



    She never gave up on her devil worship wicken crap. She loves her kill.

    Do I get to be on the news tonight? Can I fix my makeup???
    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    They just showed the part of the video where JA actually gets handcuffs placed on her and she's booked. I've always wondered why the two mugshots. But I'm guessing this one is right after they place the cuffs on her:


    and then this one when changed into orange jumpsuit:


    I just have always been confused because her hair color seems darker in the first one.
    Quote Originally Posted by MorbidlyLovely View Post
    I have my suspicions that she might have arrived unannounced, too, but realistically speaking, even if she did enter the house to "surprise" him, I think it's safe to assume the sexy time pics prove her presence wasn't UNwanted on his behalf. He could have asked her to leave, called the authorities to have her removed, etc.

    As for his friends and family not knowing of her visit, I don't believe, according to one of his brothers' statement to the police after the murder, he had much contact with any of them once he moved to Arizona so I wouldn't expect any of his siblings to know about the visit. As for his friends...well, he wasn't exactly shouting from the rooftops that he was still in contact with Jodi because his friends would have probably dissuaded him.

    I suspect her arrival might have been unannounced as well, but I have no proof of that; the fact that he allowed her to remain for a romp would go to the fact that her presence was (at least at that point) acceptable to him.

    Just trying to keep a whit of objectivity in gray areas.
    do we even know if there is actual pictures of jodi and Travis nekkid together? i've only seen pics with one or the other in the shot.
    what if..... jodi snuck in, and while Travis was elswhere in the house, she took the nekkid pics of herself with the timer set on the camera.
    and another poster has mentioned that the pics of travis on the bed don't exactly look like sexytimes pics. what if he sleeps nekkid and she was being all stalkery and taking pics of him. maybe the ky was his, cause he was self exploring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    [***JiLL****said:Today*10:24 AM*Originally Posted by*Brillig*Confronted the woman and physically blocked her exit from the bathroom, to the point where the woman felt uncomfortable.So much for Stabby not being assertive back then...I saw her on NG last night, do we know if it's the same woman from the story Jodi told in court, or is she a different one??]

    Playing devil's advocate for a sec..Everyone is looking for their 15 minutes. There are going to be ppl that saw the signs and yada yada yada. I don't put much stock into who is on NG.
    The fact that she was on the witness list tells me there's more to what she said than just getting 15 mins of fame. Juan likely didn't use her because she was drinking on the first night, therefore her testimony would only be taken with a grain of salt. Doesn't mean it didn't happen though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    LOL, I never brought up the Hughes so your use of them has nothing to do with my post.

    LOL like you know all his self claimed 'friends" yourself? Can you tell me if any are from the ppl group we heard Travis say he didn't like? If you think everyone that ever met Travis doesn't include sychophants you are really naive. Travis was a public speaker. Just hearing him speak doesn't make them any more his 'friend' that JA was his 'friend'.
    The other night they had on two with a picture and asked, did you take the picture, .. #1 duh 'no' so they ask the other one .. #2 duh, 'no I wasn't there that night.' Don't think you've seen the end of them, you haven't. There's cockroaches still in the woodwork.
    I would bet there are lots of people who "knew" Travis but weren't friends with him who want to cash in on the fame. He was a popular guy so many people were acquaintances of his.

    That is one of the reasons I try to specify whenever I talk about him that I knew him but I wasn't friends with him. I in no way want to portray myself as Travis' friend. Not because I think badly of him, in fact I actually think pretty highly of him. But I know it would be a lie. I imagine if Travis were still here and you asked him if he knew me he'd probably have to see a picture before he even vaguely remembered me. I know when my sister (who was better friends with him) called me, because she had seen the Picture Perfect episode, and asked if I remembered Travis Alexander. I said the name sounds familiar but I can't put a face to the name. When I saw his picture then I remembered who he was.
    I think there are a lot of people who knew him like I did but claim they were his friends. Just because we went to church together and talked every now and then does not make us friends.

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