Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[I doubt it]

It's like most people, we like to see it as it happens. I think I'll start it up to a certain time, then flip over for the posting to see how it ends. I miss the shows with Jane and Nancy hashing it out. Except for last night, usually Dr. Drew is a full hour. I haven't figured out if I like After Dark yet.

I was wondering because I'm on DST too. I watch the trial on livestream, tape HLN on mute and then my daughter walks in and goes WTF is going on here? To each his own, I guess. You do realize that HLN gets 3 hours behind when they pause for commercials, right?

[acertaingirl]

At least you've got kind people here posting on u tube with no commercials nor sidebars so you can catch up. We on the east coast with HLN must endure it all, last night it didn't end till into Dr. Drew!!! That sure messes up a day.

The judge told the jury to be there at 1 P.M. today, so I guess we won't see anything till 4??

Yes..I can eat my dinner and watch the trial. Crazy!

[AgathaAppleswine]

Today: as it stands, the state still has not proven premeditation and the defense has not proven that Jodi suffered some mental problem during the murder. Actually, I think they have proven just a rage killing. IMO. These opinions of mine may change as the trial moves on.

There are a couple of people who aren't convinced about premeditation. What would it take for you to get to that point?

You have motive: Obsession, jealousy and anger. The nasty text from Travis threatening Jodi. The convenient theft of the gun two days later. The gas cans. The secret visit to AZ. The hair color change. The lack of receipts in AZ. The lies piled on lies. The mysterious knife and it's most convenient placement in the bedroom by Jodi. Travis in a vulnerable position, and a killing that took less than two minutes.

I don't understand. If you can't get to pre-meditation from all that, what do you need?

[queenaevadamthng]

[Freethinker*said:Today*08:01 AMI'm having doubts about the verdict of a death sentence. The verdict for the boy who killed 3 schoolmates was 1st degree, lifer. When he went in for sentencing, he took off his shirt, revealing a tee shirt with the words killer on it. Then as he spoke to the family he flipped them and said fuck you!!!]

I found this to be a good read regarding his behavior..Enjoy..
http://www.cleveland.com/morris/inde...prison_wi.html

[acertaingirl]

I was wondering because I'm on DST too. I watch the trial on livestream, tape HLN on mute and then my daughter walks in and goes WTF is going on here? To each his own, I guess. You do realize that HLN gets 3 hours behind when they pause for commercials, right?

I do the same thing, I also use my iPad mini to keep up with this forum. If I have to take a pp break, I take it in with me and use the wild about trials app so I don't miss anything. I can't wait for this trial to be over....

[Jillee]

Not sure if anyone posted this. Too funny!
http://youtu.be/LqbMtDj6CCQ

[Freethinker]

I do the same thing, I also use my iPad mini to keep up with this forum. If I have to take a pp break, I take it in with me and use the wild about trials app so I don't miss anything. I can't wait for this trial to be over....

I only have my computer, will livestream work?

In a way I'll be glad it's over too, it's consumed my life. I hope not to get involved in another trial. I might check in on the Travon Martin one in June, but I think it will be too racially motivated, they insist he killed Travon because he's black. Plus I live within 20 miles of the courthouse, so we'll be swamped with local news.

[DenverClipper]

Also I was reading one of the court documents where the State was arguing about the inadmissability of the forged letters from Travis and it gave some insite as to what was contained in those letters....
1) He had a couple of experiences with young boys
2) he confessed to a bishop...but not HIS bishop
3) he admitted that he had fondled little boys before

How sickening of her!!!

I wouldn't give stabby satisfaction by printing details of that fabricated letter which was only meant to harm the reputation of the victim.

[Rachael123]

Really.He looked all discombobulated.

Ok--- to Justice!! & Sneakers
Tawni is looking into the Doc about putting evidence into his briefcase & Doc writing on evidence while JM's back is turned

[queenaevadamthng]

[*Originally Posted by*royals02*Also I was reading one of the court documents where the State was arguing about the inadmissability of the forged letters from Travis and it gave some insite as to what was contained in those letters....*1) He had a couple of experiences with young boys2) he confessed to a bishop...but not HIS bishop3) he admitted that he had fondled little boys beforeHow sickening of her!!!]

Couldn't they just check with the family of the little boy ( if he even really exists ) so they could nip that one in the bud and be done with it? Address it now so it can't be used later on an attempt to appeal.

[Shahoolie11]

https://www.facebook.com/jennifer.s.willmott https://www.facebook.com/ken.willmott.908 Poked around after checking out Willmott's site. Is she in biz with her hubby? Found FB stuff....not sure if posted previously. Sorry, if they have been. I'm not sure if it's even her...no glasses, so it's hard to tell =)

Yup! That's definitely her!!!
Also, I can't PM you until you clean out your inbox according to MDS! LOL!

[Rae Rae]

Ho-leeee shit at that video!

I don't buy into the whole Jodi vs. Casey Anthony thing, but now I'm starting to think it's more like Jodi vs. Amanda Knox.

1. Knox was doing cartwheels at the police station, Jodi's doing handstands
2. Knox lied and tried to pin it on someone who wasn't even there , Jodi's ninjas
3. Both used throat slashes
4. Both were hit in the head (yeah right)
5. Knox's ex got caught trying to board a train outta Dodge, Jodi was pulled over for upside down license place (she got away, though).
6. Knox said police hit her and called her a stupid liar while in custody, Jodi was called a fucking idiot or 5 year old or something
7. Knox's parents are indicted for libel after shit-talking the police, Jodi's mom or Matt or whoever forged those letters
8. Both had prison buddies that were willing to testify to their character
9. Defense attorneys argue that Guede's letter was based on "a feeling" and that his accusations are not based on facts or events he witnessed, Jodi's vengeful hearsay
10. Both were forced to take a gander at their handiwork and looked away (Jodi was peeking, but still)

Looks like Jodi has a role model/hero worship thing going on

Knox ultimately ended up free, though, and I shall shit my pants if that happens with Jodi. I shall pee, too. Stabby bitches.

EXACTLY!!!!!!! Amanda Knox got away with it, made me sick to my stomach. She was doing splits and backbends at the POLICE STATION...Eerie flashback to that horrible case. Meredith Kercher was Amanda Knox's Victim...stabbed through the neck, all the way through. ARIAS and KNOX are very similar in my opinion. Happy to read your post, read my mind!!!

[AnnieBelle]

[QUOTING I'MBATMAN: This goes back to my borderline argument... personality disorders are much different than chemical imbalances.*A borderline is raised... from the families displays... good gravy! If we look at personality...just look back on your own life with your bio parents...the people that raised you...etc...Her mom shows a real lack of respect for everything, including her own daughters life...as a psychologist and family therapist I would LOVE to do a genogram on this family!!!]

So you believe a borderline is pure nurture and has nothing to do with nature?

All of the disorders, whether Personality Disorders or Anxiety Disorders, are rooted in the unique chemistry or function of the brain. Science and research have suspicions as to what neurotransmitters are the likely culprits in causing these. And they don't understand any of it very well. There is also evidence to suggest that genetics plays a role in some of these disorders, as some are seen to run in families. With all of these disorders, the sooner the individual gets evaluated and treated, the better. Nurture certainly plays a strong role in many of these....but in the true disorders of the brain, none are brought on simply by being raised in a whacky home.

[Doll-Face]

There are a couple of people who aren't convinced about premeditation. What would it take for you to get to that point?

You have motive: Obsession, jealousy and anger. The nasty text from Travis threatening Jodi. The convenient theft of the gun two days later. The gas cans. The secret visit to AZ. The hair color change. The lack of receipts in AZ. The lies piled on lies. The mysterious knife and it's most convenient placement in the bedroom by Jodi. Travis in a vulnerable position, and a killing that took less than two minutes.

I don't understand. If you can't get to pre-meditation from all that, what do you need?

Great points. I can get to premeditation. I can also see her motive. However, JM really hasn't focused on it as much as I had hoped he would. Although the DT entered the text of 5-26-08 to prove abuse, I think it instead helped me see her motive. Travis called her a sociopath and the worst thing that's ever happened to him. That's huge! Unfortunately, JM never went back to those texts. Nor have we heard or seen the supposed Facebook message he sent her. We really haven't even heard more about the stalking claims, or doggy door, nor any testimony from people who knew more about her obsessive behavior. I know it's out there. IMO, more needs to be done to show motive. Hopefully that's coming in rebuttal and closing arguments. Sometimes jurors need it all spelled out for them...that's where I'm coming from. Although we see it, I want them to see it too. The couple people on here who are questioning things make me really nervous.

[AnnieBelle]

[*Originally Posted by*royals02*Also I was reading one of the court documents where the State was arguing about the inadmissability of the forged letters from Travis and it gave some insite as to what was contained in those letters....*1) He had a couple of experiences with young boys2) he confessed to a bishop...but not HIS bishop3) he admitted that he had fondled little boys beforeHow sickening of her!!!]

Couldn't they just check with the family of the little boy ( if he even really exists ) so they could nip that one in the bud and be done with it? Address it now so it can't be used later on an attempt to appeal.

They can't be entered into the case, at all. The state determined those documents were forgeries.

[ImBatman!]

Wow, I am really trying hard to listen to yesterdays testimony...not working out for me so well!!

[Vanilla Ice]

Not sure if anyone posted this. Too funny!
http://youtu.be/LqbMtDj6CCQ

Wholly guacamole! Thanks for that--I haven't laughed that hard in a long time! I think my spleen hurts...

[AnnieBelle]

Great points. I can get to premeditation. I can also see her motive. However, JM really hasn't focused on it as much as I had hoped he would. Although the DT entered the text of 5-26-08 to prove abuse, I think it instead helped me see her motive. Travis called her a sociopath and the worst thing that's ever happened to him. That's huge! Unfortunately, JM never went back to those texts. Nor have we heard or seen the supposed Facebook message he sent her. We really haven't even heard more about the stalking claims, or doggy door, nor any testimony from people who knew more about her obsessive behavior. I know it's out there. IMO, more needs to be done to show motive. Hopefully that's coming in rebuttal and closing arguments. Sometimes jurors need it all spelled out for them...that's where I'm coming from. Although we see it, I want them to see it too. The couple people on here who are questioning things make me really nervous.

I agree with you.....there are a few things I wished had been explored, further. The slashed tires......unfortunately, I don't think a police report was ever filed, and no one saw Jodi do it. That is probably why JM didn't go there. The angry messages, I think JM's failure to focus on those was merely part of his method to prosecuting her. Everyone knows that Travis was not a violent person....was not the manipulative abuser that Jodi is attempting to portray him as. There has got to be a reason why those messages were not introduced as evidence by either side. For JM, he wants to stay as far away from those as possible, because he doesn't want the jury to take these messages out of context and view them as support of what Jodi is claiming. Because it isn't true.

[ImBatman!]

Thread moves at light speed when Im not home...today..meh.

[alaina02]

I have a question, too. I know several people noted that she took what appeared to be a pill, and chugged down some water? I missed that part, but wouldn't that be violating some rules if she had any kind of medication on her person, to take on her own? I would think anything would have to be okayed and administered by an official of the court??

go to youtube and type "jodi arias takes a pill" it couldnt be more obvious

[AnnieBelle]

[Freethinker*said:Today*08:01 AMI'm having doubts about the verdict of a death sentence. The verdict for the boy who killed 3 schoolmates was 1st degree, lifer. When he went in for sentencing, he took off his shirt, revealing a tee shirt with the words killer on it. Then as he spoke to the family he flipped them and said fuck you!!!]

I found this to be a good read regarding his behavior..Enjoy..
http://www.cleveland.com/morris/inde...prison_wi.html

I watched some of the coverage of this case. The only thing that saved that little POS from the DP was his age. I'm sure there would have been many volunteers to flip the switches, when the time came.

[*crickets*]

I do the same thing, I also use my iPad mini to keep up with this forum. If I have to take a pp break, I take it in with me and use the wild about trials app so I don't miss anything. I can't wait for this trial to be over....

Me too! Yes, we are addicted...a lot of us will need therapy and/or a 12 step program when this is over.

"Hi, I'm *crickets* and I'm an addict."
MDSers: "Hi, *crickets..."

They say the first step towards recovery is admitting you have a problem...

[alaina02]

I'm having doubts about the verdict of a death sentence. The verdict for the boy who killed 3 schoolmates was 1st degree, lifer. When he went in for sentencing, he took off his shirt, revealing a tee shirt with the words killer on it. Then as he spoke to the family he flipped them and said fuck you!!!

He is too young for death penalty

[ImBatman!]

Me too! Yes, we are addicted...a lot of us will need therapy and/or a 12 step program when this is over.

"Hi, I'm *crickets* and I'm an addict."
MDSers: "Hi, *crickets..."

They say the first step towards recovery is admitting you have a problem...

I just detoxed myself for two days and....Im back for more!!

[*crickets*]

Great points. I can get to premeditation. I can also see her motive. However, JM really hasn't focused on it as much as I had hoped he would. Although the DT entered the text of 5-26-08 to prove abuse, I think it instead helped me see her motive. Travis called her a sociopath and the worst thing that's ever happened to him. That's huge! Unfortunately, JM never went back to those texts. Nor have we heard or seen the supposed Facebook message he sent her. We really haven't even heard more about the stalking claims, or doggy door, nor any testimony from people who knew more about her obsessive behavior. I know it's out there. IMO, more needs to be done to show motive. Hopefully that's coming in rebuttal and closing arguments. Sometimes jurors need it all spelled out for them...that's where I'm coming from. Although we see it, I want them to see it too. The couple people on here who are questioning things make me really nervous.

Dollface, I don't think Martinez was allowed to introduce the stalking/tire slashing, doggy door etc. stuff b/c none of it could be proven, therefore inadmissable.