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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    Oh, don't misunderstand me.....I am not doubting the ability of the defense lawyers. I think they have a nightmare of a client, to say the least. I just don't view Martinez as anything other than amazing. He hits a home run, and disproves every theory that the defense is throwing at the DA. He has to, because the burden of proving this case lies ultimately with him. Every witness the defense has put on the stand, JM has handed their assholes back to them on a silver plate. He has convinced me (and I went into this, giving Jodi the total benefit of the doubt) that she is guilty of murder in the 1st. No doubt in my mind.

    Also, I want to add that this trial appears to flow like molasses for several reasons, the most obvious being the limited court time, per week, that has been the norm. And the fact that Jodi was on the stand for 18 days? And, the law which allows jury questions to be asked. I just don't think that JM is the reason this has been soooooooooooooo tedious. XO
    He's getting all his facts in testimony, and will package it up with a bright red bow and hand it to the jury in closing. Hopefully the jury opens it and finds the needle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Welcome back. David Lohr on YouTube has all the testimony without the sidebars. Somebody here said we got 18 minutes of testimony yesterday morning. The afternoon is funny.
    tawndilly from MDS also has the videos, but I find it easier to search for Lohr. I have way too many links on this case.
    Thanks love for the welcome! I missed two days and it feels like a life time!!

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    I'm having doubts about the verdict of a death sentence. The verdict for the boy who killed 3 schoolmates was 1st degree, lifer. When he went in for sentencing, he took off his shirt, revealing a tee shirt with the words killer on it. Then as he spoke to the family he flipped them and said fuck you!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Is it just me, or does Stabby get uglier by the day?
    Yes! I have started calling her Monkey Face.

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    Why oh why do I torture myself with peeking at the JAII site? Those people are absolutely nutbags. I have to say away but it keeps pulling me back to read the bizarre rants. And now they are pissed off that JM took a photo on the court steps with Dr. Drew's juror, Katie. They said it is disrespectful and like a victory pose before the victory. No people, how about Katie admires Juan and maybe even has a teeny tiny crush on him and wants a photo. What the hell does it have to do with victory? They are just nutso. Now they have created at Meme from it. Ahhhh. I must shower away the dirty funk I feel from there.

    Laters baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    I'm having doubts about the verdict of a death sentence. The verdict for the boy who killed 3 schoolmates was 1st degree, lifer. When he went in for sentencing, he took off his shirt, revealing a tee shirt with the words killer on it. Then as he spoke to the family he flipped them and said fuck you!!!
    At this point for me....I just want her to rot in prison. The death penalty sentence would be nice only because she would be ALONE!!! Virtually no contact with anyone....she thrives on attention so the lack of attention would be like death to her. Good enough for me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    I'm having doubts about the verdict of a death sentence. The verdict for the boy who killed 3 schoolmates was 1st degree, lifer. When he went in for sentencing, he took off his shirt, revealing a tee shirt with the words killer on it. Then as he spoke to the family he flipped them and said fuck you!!!
    Yes. He got LWOP but he also pled guilty and at age 17 he was not eligible for the DP.

    This trial is winding down and folks are all worried about Juan and his technique. I say relax. Trust Juan. It's like looking at the ingredients of a recipe and imagining how it will taste. Juan will put this all together and we will be pleased with the results. We have to be patient.

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    At least you've got kind people here posting on u tube with no commercials nor sidebars so you can catch up. We on the east coast with HLN must endure it all, last night it didn't end till into Dr. Drew!!! That sure messes up a day.

    The judge told the jury to be there at 1 P.M. today, so I guess we won't see anything till 4??

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    I saw her do it today. She is probably on antidepressants.
    If she is she would have to be under treatment for a mental condition. I thought she testified 1)she wasn't under treatment and 2)she didn't have a mental condition. Maybe she's just taking an Advil or Tylenol for her migraines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    Yes! I have started calling her Monkey Face.
    Doesn't she kinda look like Skelator from He-man? I don't know why I get that from her. It's odd I know because it's a cartoon character. But she really reminded me of him the last day she was on the stand. Something with her neck and chin. I don't know. LOL Maybe she's making me cray cray too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilangiepangie View Post
    Doesn't she kinda look like Skelator from He-man? I don't know why I get that from her. It's odd I know because it's a cartoon character. But she really reminded me of him the last day she was on the stand. Something with her neck and chin. I don't know. LOL Maybe she's making me cray cray too.
    Probably another plan of hers to lose weight, let her hair get longer and hang. Then Jodi believers can talk about what this trial is doing to her. It's too bad the jury doesn't see her demeaner before and after they arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    At least you've got kind people here posting on u tube with no commercials nor sidebars so you can catch up. We on the east coast with HLN must endure it all, last night it didn't end till into Dr. Drew!!! That sure messes up a day.

    The judge told the jury to be there at 1 P.M. today, so I guess we won't see anything till 4??
    Why can't you watch YouTube?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    I don't believe that Martinez has to prove Jodi stole the gun from Travis. She said she did. That is proof enough, a confession. It would generally be a moot point as we know that the gun did not belong to Travis and that Jodi brought it with her, but she's trapped herself by copping to burglary in hopes of avoiding premeditation.
    I also thought JM was using that once Jodi stabbed or shot Travis she was no longer an invited guest and that changed it to a burglary or something like that. And yes that JM also says if it was T's gun - she admitted she took it. Can't wait for his rebuttal to put it all together.

    RIP Travis


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilangiepangie View Post
    Why oh why do I torture myself with peeking at the JAII site? Those people are absolutely nutbags. I have to say away but it keeps pulling me back to read the bizarre rants. And now they are pissed off that JM took a photo on the court steps with Dr. Drew's juror, Katie. They said it is disrespectful and like a victory pose before the victory. No people, how about Katie admires Juan and maybe even has a teeny tiny crush on him and wants a photo. What the hell does it have to do with victory? They are just nutso. Now they have created at Meme from it. Ahhhh. I must shower away the dirty funk I feel from there.

    Laters baby.
    I can't look at that site. I'd blow a gasket. It's bad enough when folks bring stuff from that site and post it here. I suppose they are as passionate in their beliefs as we are but I swear - how do well meaning people believe her innocent? Were they dropped at birth or something? I'll never understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poppycock View Post
    The defense does not have to prove anything, that is always on the State. All the defense has to do is cast a reasonable doubt that it was premeditated. If they convince one juror it was self defense, then they cannot find her guilty of M1. The burden of proof is always on the Prosecution. There could be some jurors that don't believe M1 was proven beyond a reasonable doubt for reasons besides SD. The verdict will not ever say, we find the defendant guilty of self defense. This is why CA and OJ got off, a reasonable doubt was created by the defense. It is much harder to get a conviction, imo. The jury instructions will explain it all. This jury is going to have reems of shit to sift through. Opening statements seems like eons ago, as do Mimi and Lisa. With no end in sight, ughhhhhhhhhh
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    I appreciate your response, but it's not entirely true. In cases where a defendant asserts self defense, they must prove at trial that the self defense was justified. This is why JA took the stand to testify in her own defense. If she would have stuck with the two intruder story, there would be an absolute burden on the prosecution.

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    I'd be perfectly content if she got the DP but lived out her days on death row. A nice LONG life but they never get around to actually killing her.
    Id be very surprised if she gets the DP though. Should she? Yes! Will she? I have a feeling ONE juror just won't be able to choose death. As long as she gets at least LWOP I'm good.

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    Ok, I know I should stop looking at the JAII site, I'm sure it is killing my brain cells! Kind of think they crossed the line with this, though!

    "THE WORLD IS A FAR BETTER PLACE WITHOUT TRAVIS ALEXANDER."

    Really? Wow. What a bunch of disgusting freaks!
    I'd post something back to them but they probably don't allow non JAII people on there plus I don't know that I want to get sucked into,their garbage...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blah28 View Post
    I'd be perfectly content if she got the DP but lived out her days on death row. A nice LONG life but they never get around to actually killing her.
    Id be very surprised if she gets the DP though. Should she? Yes! Will she? I have a feeling ONE juror just won't be able to choose death. As long as she gets at least LWOP I'm good.
    Hopefully, this jury realizes that the Death Penalty carries an automatic appeal and no one will be sticking a needle in her arm as soon as they read the verdict.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Hopefully, this jury realizes that the Death Penalty carries an automatic appeal and no one will be sticking a needle in her arm as soon as they read the verdict.
    Sad but true. I understand why the death penalty carries so many appeals...to prevent innocent peeps from dying. In this case...if she gets the DP I say the sooner the better...guilt is not even a question in the case.

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    My opinion of the JAII folk? Meh.

    The one thing they need is an audience to keep their 'us vs them' fires burning. they're getting their love squishies on because people read them. There's a line between team jodi and team Travis. That's where I hope the verdict goes. She probably would not get the DP anyway so I hope the jury sees through the lies and hoopla and gives her life. If there is a punishment stage. Never take a verdict for granted or you may find yourself yelling "Casey is what??" while at lunch with family at a chinese restaurant. It may or may not have happened to me.
    Marshmallow here is the one I liken to Ed Gein... Originally Posted by Heartbroken1


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    My friend who practiced law in Colorado says it costs approx $250K/yr to house death row inmates vs. ~$50K/yr for general inmates. Anybody know if it's similar in AZ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Why can't you watch YouTube?
    It's like most people, we like to see it as it happens. I think I'll start it up to a certain time, then flip over for the posting to see how it ends. I miss the shows with Jane and Nancy hashing it out. Except for last night, usually Dr. Drew is a full hour. I haven't figured out if I like After Dark yet.

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    If you start watching this clip from yesterday around the 23:00 mark you will see her taking the pill (its right after the attys are coming back from sidebar)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtqwJtMFJII
    Interesting...wonder where she would have gotten pill from...I seriously doubt she would be administered medication from the jail in open court....and I also noticed that she held that jacket on her lap all day...she didnt put it on the back of her chair like she usually does

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    Also I was reading one of the court documents where the State was arguing about the inadmissability of the forged letters from Travis and it gave some insite as to what was contained in those letters....
    1) He had a couple of experiences with young boys
    2) he confessed to a bishop...but not HIS bishop
    3) he admitted that he had fondled little boys before

    How sickening of her!!!

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