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    Seriously who is this guy for the defense on HLN saying that the DT is brilliant?
    "I don't know what trial you're watching"???

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyT View Post
    Juan Martinez is very likeable - like a Prosecutor version of Columbo - although well dressed. His delivery can be a little unusual at times and he has certainly fooled a few so-called TV experts into thinking he takes unusual routes. He also gives the appearance of being a little old-fashioned in a few areas but it is all a ruse. He is gentlemanly and considerate of the victims. I find him endearing and caring. He is a joy to watch. I so hope he wins justice for Travis Alexander, his family and friends.
    He does remind me of Columbo. I agree with you, I remember how sweet he was with Lisa Andrews/Diadone when he was asking her about her relationship with TA. He knew she was uncomfortable and tried to make her feel calm.

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    You don't have a memory problem, do you?
    Mid afternoon

    Dr. is still up. JM is still up with cross
    Did you give Jodi a gift? No
    Didn't you give her a book? Yes
    Didn't you think she was depressed? No
    EX 532-It's a book on self help. There seems to be a blurring of the lines? No
    Jr. bought the book for her because she couldn't get it. He bought it through amazon and sent it to her.
    You were in a sense giving her money, right? I didn't look at it that way. He bought it for $9. (JM is pissed right now) You like her? I can't answer that question. Jr. seen her 12 times.
    They spoke of many things. Sexual stuff too. (Oh, maybe the dr was wanting to try out some KY with Jodi) There is a code of ethics, yes? Yes, it wasn't a gift. Jr. yells out Jodi was suicidal. Doctor yells out he wasn't treating her.

    Approach from the judge because they were yelling! (It was awesome)

    The dr was not her treating her. Jr. said he doesn't know if she was getting treatment.
    Your the dr that knows the rules, right? Yes, mostly.
    You believe Jodi was suicidal? uh, she told us she was.
    You don't have memory problems, do you? No
    Don't you have a requirement to tell if you know somebody is suicidal? (they are yelling and the judge has to get on to them for yelling) Wasn't she suicidal? Yes.
    Why didn't you notify somebody? Yes, her attorney was informed.
    Why not medical person or jail people? Uh, I had no contacts in the jail.
    Jr. wants to explain what suicidal meant in this case. (uh huh) Jr. just keeps saying he told her attorney. (LOL)
    The dr. did not contact anybody else about Jodi being suicidal.The dr. bought her a self help book. You were assisting her? I did not conduct therapy.
    JM is saying Jr was blurring the lines with Jodi. The dr. was trying to help Jodi get better. The dr. thought the book would help her.

    NJ-past trouble- Didn't you sign an agreement with NJ that you wouldn't cross lines with another client? Yes
    Jr. says he hasn't crossed a line with Jodi.
    Fine to NJ- He also had to take more classes on the rules of being a dr and not crossing lines with classes.
    JM is bringing up how JR doesn't tape record interviews. Jr. has to look at the book to say the correct name.
    JM is bringing out papers. Jr. has only gave the test 15 times. JM brings up how Jr can't remember the name of the test. (LOL) One test is 49 questions, the other is 150. The 49, Jr scores himself, and the other is sent off.
    JM is basically saying Jodi lied on those test.
    Jodi lied on the test, JM says.
    EX 533- the test. It's raw data. This dr. is actually not a dr. There is no MD behind his name.
    EX 527 (I don't know. This dr. doesn't have the papers with him. The test that Jodi filled out) The answer sheet is missing!!!!!!!!!!!
    Why did you use a pencil? We use pencils for those forms.
    Jr. wants to know if JM thinks he cheated on that test b/c he used a pencil?

    Defense asks for an approach after JM wants to admit in the test.

    EX 534 admitted- Jodi's responses- Jan 15, 2010.

    EX 533 admitted- The questions of the test- (basically a bunch of BS)

    EX 535 admitted - Jodi's answers to the test- Doctor marked on the test. He admits that he should have did another test because the first one Jodi lied on it.
    Why are you feeling it out and not her? Because that is the scoring guide (this guy is very sloppy with his paperwork.)

    EX 527- question 22- (this guy doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall) Uh oh, I guess there is another booklet. He doesn't have the booklet with him.

    Page # 2 of EX 534 Question 16,17, 18- Why was there a 6 there first? I added them up incorrect.
    It took Jodi 20 minutes to fill this test out.
    She never had any problems filling these test out.
    So if they are lying, the test are no good? Right
    So she lied? Yes. (BOOM)

    Approach (judge after Wilmont objects)

    Jodi's story changed. The rope. She told Jr she was tied at the hands and feet. That's what was in his notes. He is saying he might have added it by mistake (WTF?????) Jodi also told him that Travis cut the ropes as he cummed. Jodi then got on top of Travis and that's when he took the photos.

    EX 164, 165, 168, 169 - Jodi's porn pictures. JM just flat out calls Jodi a liar.

    Approach (judge)

    Jr. says he didn't view Jodi's story as a lie (What?) Jr. said he would discontuine treating them if they were lying.
    JM is showing her the pictures. Jr is saying she wasn't having memory problems at the moment of the pictures.

    JM is finished for the day.

    Court is finished for the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    I'm out of the Herp too, so Ditto!



    Priceless. Which one?
    On siding with the presecution. Then she had a look on her face like she was about to die. Real professional. What an idiot!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    If you aren't watching this clown show right now you are missing out!

    I'll take your word for it. Just popping in to make sure folks are keeping it cool.

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    Stupid Doc Dick Answers;
    In response to-
    *giving test while lying about Ninja story "perhaps I should have re-administered that test"
    *question 22 from test "I guess the actual test is not here, I thought it was in here but it is not, I'm afraid I've left it home" OOP's
    * Rope- tied at wrists & ANKLES "the fact is that most of the time ankles are tied... blah blah blah, but if I wrote it well, then it must have been stated"
    * important to look at ALL pics to corroborate JA story "I didn't look at all the pictures"
    * lied to over & over need to corroborate (not this case) "if I knew somebody was lying I would end the examination"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyT View Post
    Juan Martinez is very likeable - like a Prosecutor version of Columbo - although well dressed. His delivery can be a little unusual at times and he has certainly fooled a few so-called TV experts into thinking he takes unusual routes. He also gives the appearance of being a little old-fashioned in a few areas but it is all a ruse. He is gentlemanly and considerate of the victims. I find him endearing and caring. He is a joy to watch. I so hope he wins justice for Travis Alexander, his family and friends.
    Whole Heartedly Agree!

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    yep time to take up golf and fishing.his defence career is over
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    I predict that Dr. Dick will retire, as soon as he gets off the stand. Time to call it a career, sir!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyT View Post
    Juan Martinez is very likeable - like a Prosecutor version of Columbo - although well dressed. His delivery can be a little unusual at times and he has certainly fooled a few so-called TV experts into thinking he takes unusual routes. He also gives the appearance of being a little old-fashioned in a few areas but it is all a ruse. He is gentlemanly and considerate of the victims. I find him endearing and caring. He is a joy to watch. I so hope he wins justice for Travis Alexander, his family and friends.
    Amen!

    This sums him up perfectly.

    Were you crying when you were stabbing him? --SuperJuan Martinez
    Nobody believes a word out of your mouth. Why do you keep talking? -- ABC Interviewer to JA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peavey View Post
    I can not believe that y'all go through 30+ pages a day in this thread.

    Well maybe that now court is in recess it can go back to just 10-20 pages

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    The doctor reminded me of Vizzini at the very beginning. I'm starting to think it's true after the use of the word 'conceivable.'
    I was like - "That's not your line! It's inconceivable." I feel bad for giggling now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kdon View Post
    Seriously who is this guy for the defense on HLN saying that the DT is brilliant?
    "I don't know what trial you're watching"???
    Those paid to defend the Defense clowns really annoy me. The ordinary viewers overwhelmingly think Martinez is doing a solid job (polls by HLN). It is like they armed watching a different trial.

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    Went to read about the book the "good" Dr sent Arias, there is a chapter 8 called The Justice Trap...

    In chapter 8, "The Justice Trap," the author writes bluntly about the fact that injustice is committed every day and that if one has enough money one can get away with it. Poor people will rot in jail, while rich people get a slap on the wrist for the same crime. It is not an "erroneous zone" (self-defeating behavior) to notice the injustices of this world; the erroneous zone is the belief that becoming incapacitated with anger, guilt, worry, or indignation, by the injustices will change anything. Many heroic people try to change the injustices, and they are to be commended. But they often fail because they are against impossible odds. Year after year, century after century, the privileged few get away with what the rest of us do not. Is it fair? No! Should we convince ourselves that it is okay? No! Should we fool ourselves into believing incapacitating ourselves with worry and anger is going to change anything? No, again. If you can do something to end an injustice, then do it. If you can't, don't feel guilty.

    (Taken from a review on the book, scroll down)

    Interesting, no? :)

    http://www.amazon.com/Your-Erroneous...rogenous+zones

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    Does anybody have a link to HLN. I had www.superusvoxtv.com I got earlier, but the link is now broken. Any suggestions. Please and thank you.
    "Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
    "Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"

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    Quote Originally Posted by loonywop View Post
    so now he has memory problems..........the blind leading the blind
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    Is fog contagious?
    Quote Originally Posted by phantompoet View Post
    Doc is catching the fog
    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    [B][U]You don't have a memory problem, do you?
    Yowza it's an Fog Epidemic....Run, Run, Run for your lives

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    Quote Originally Posted by bermstalker View Post
    You don't have a memory problem, do you?
    Mid afternoon

    Dr. is still up. JM is still up with cross
    Did you give Jodi a gift? No
    Didn't you give her a book? Yes
    Didn't you think she was depressed? No
    EX 532-It's a book on self help. There seems to be a blurring of the lines? No
    Jr. bought the book for her because she couldn't get it. He bought it through amazon and sent it to her.
    You were in a sense giving her money, right? I didn't look at it that way. He bought it for $9. (JM is pissed right now) You like her? I can't answer that question. Jr. seen her 12 times.
    They spoke of many things. Sexual stuff too. (Oh, maybe the dr was wanting to try out some KY with Jodi) There is a code of ethics, yes? Yes, it wasn't a gift. Jr. yells out Jodi was suicidal. Doctor yells out he wasn't treating her.

    Approach from the judge because they were yelling! (It was awesome)

    The dr was not her treating her. Jr. said he doesn't know if she was getting treatment.
    Your the dr that knows the rules, right? Yes, mostly.
    You believe Jodi was suicidal? uh, she told us she was.
    You don't have memory problems, do you? No
    Don't you have a requirement to tell if you know somebody is suicidal? (they are yelling and the judge has to get on to them for yelling) Wasn't she suicidal? Yes.
    Why didn't you notify somebody? Yes, her attorney was informed.
    Why not medical person or jail people? Uh, I had no contacts in the jail.
    Jr. wants to explain what suicidal meant in this case. (uh huh) Jr. just keeps saying he told her attorney. (LOL)
    The dr. did not contact anybody else about Jodi being suicidal.The dr. bought her a self help book. You were assisting her? I did not conduct therapy.
    JM is saying Jr was blurring the lines with Jodi. The dr. was trying to help Jodi get better. The dr. thought the book would help her.

    NJ-past trouble- Didn't you sign an agreement with NJ that you wouldn't cross lines with another client? Yes
    Jr. says he hasn't crossed a line with Jodi.
    Fine to NJ- He also had to take more classes on the rules of being a dr and not crossing lines with classes.
    JM is bringing up how JR doesn't tape record interviews. Jr. has to look at the book to say the correct name.
    JM is bringing out papers. Jr. has only gave the test 15 times. JM brings up how Jr can't remember the name of the test. (LOL) One test is 49 questions, the other is 150. The 49, Jr scores himself, and the other is sent off.
    JM is basically saying Jodi lied on those test.
    Jodi lied on the test, JM says.
    EX 533- the test. It's raw data. This dr. is actually not a dr. There is no MD behind his name.
    EX 527 (I don't know. This dr. doesn't have the papers with him. The test that Jodi filled out) The answer sheet is missing!!!!!!!!!!!
    Why did you use a pencil? We use pencils for those forms.
    Jr. wants to know if JM thinks he cheated on that test b/c he used a pencil?

    Defense asks for an approach after JM wants to admit in the test.

    EX 534 admitted- Jodi's responses- Jan 15, 2010.

    EX 533 admitted- The questions of the test- (basically a bunch of BS)

    EX 535 admitted - Jodi's answers to the test- Doctor marked on the test. He admits that he should have did another test because the first one Jodi lied on it.
    Why are you feeling it out and not her? Because that is the scoring guide (this guy is very sloppy with his paperwork.)

    EX 527- question 22- (this guy doesn't know his ass from a hole in the wall) Uh oh, I guess there is another booklet. He doesn't have the booklet with him.

    Page # 2 of EX 534 Question 16,17, 18- Why was there a 6 there first? I added them up incorrect.
    It took Jodi 20 minutes to fill this test out.
    She never had any problems filling these test out.
    So if they are lying, the test are no good? Right
    So she lied? Yes. (BOOM)

    Approach (judge after Wilmont objects)

    Jodi's story changed. The rope. She told Jr she was tied at the hands and feet. That's what was in his notes. He is saying he might have added it by mistake (WTF?????) Jodi also told him that Travis cut the ropes as he cummed. Jodi then got on top of Travis and that's when he took the photos.

    EX 164, 165, 168, 169 - Jodi's porn pictures. JM just flat out calls Jodi a liar.

    Approach (judge)

    Jr. says he didn't view Jodi's story as a lie (What?) Jr. said he would discontuine treating them if they were lying.
    JM is showing her the pictures. Jr is saying she wasn't having memory problems at the moment of the pictures.

    JM is finished for the day.

    Court is finished for the day.
    Wait a minute, I though Dr. Dummy said he has never TREATED her. Wow, just wow. The defense just digs itself a little deeper each day

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Doc Dick confesses to the murder by the end of cross. Great job JM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    Does anybody have a link to HLN. I had www.superusvoxtv.com I got earlier, but the link is now broken. Any suggestions. Please and thank you.
    http://livetvcafe.net/video/788DMN4MDON7/HLN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Peavey View Post
    I can not believe that y'all go through 30+ pages a day in this thread.

    "Ain't nobody got time for dat"

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    HLN links: Some work better than others at varying times.

    http://livetvcafe.net/video/788DMN4MDON7/HLN

    http://www.livenewschat.tv/twoon/

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    I don't mind the psychologist. I realize he's a defense witness, and that bothers me....

    The doctor has been foolish, and he has made some mistakes, but I can't blame him for falling for Jodi's act. She's a top-notch liar. I was watching the 48 hours interview again, and I can easily see how someone could fall under her spell -- particularly if she is focused solely on you.

    That woman is terrifying.

    If a trained psychologist was so easily swayed by her, then what chance did Travis Alexander really have against her?

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    That was imply brilliant...Juans' best work yet

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    Or 'simply', whatever you prefer

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    This is the direct link to the HLN player http://4tvnow.info/current.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    I don't mind the psychologist. I realize he's a defense witness, and that bothers me....

    The doctor has been foolish, and he has made some mistakes, but I can't blame him for falling for Jodi's act. She's a top-notch liar. I was watching the 48 hours interview again, and I can easily see how someone could fall under her spell -- particularly if she is focused solely on you.

    That woman is terrifying.

    If a trained psychologist was so easily swayed by her, then what chance did Travis Alexander really have against her?
    I don't agree that Doc Dick was swayed by "her" ... it was the money. He clearly mentions the almighty dollar quite often

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