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    A lot of people have asked why Jodi used a knife instead of the gun. And some people who defend her question why, if she had stolen a gun, she would use a knife.

    Knives are higher risk. They force you to be in contact with your victim, and they can also inflict a decent amount of damage to you if you aren't careful.

    These are fair questions, and I wanted to see what other folks thought.

    For someone like Jodi, I'm not sure a gun would be enough. I think because she is a highly sexualized person, she needed the outlet and release of the kill with a knife. I've heard in other cases where detectives believe that a knife is considered a highly sexualized way to kill someone. And I believe that this played a huge (albeit unconscious) role in the choice of weapons used.

    Also, knives feel very much like a branding. Each stab, each slice, is a mark of ownership. The killing doesn't make me think of rage either; I think she enjoyed the killing. I think she enjoyed planning it, fantasizing about it, and I think she enjoyed carrying it out.

    I truly believe that if she hadn't killed Travis, the next boyfriend she had would have been the one to die. There is something about the way she acts about the mend in her life that makes me very certain that if she hadn't been caught, she may have even become a serial killer.

    If we dismiss my rambling as pure nonsense, then I think that easiest answer to why a knife was used could be explained very simply: guns make too much noise, knives don't. She was working very, very hard to cover her tracks, so the gun would have been used as a last resort.

    Also, I have a (mostly) unrelated question: My aunt called and asked me about "Vincent(?) Arias". She said he was a boyfriend or something? I was probably at work during this testimony. Who the hell is that?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Sneakers is just copy/pasting from other websites again. You didn't really think those were her own words, did you?
    Pretty much what we all do really. But ... Sneakers is the Great Finder! I enjoy it while I wait for bull dog Juan to bite Dr Fog in the ass.
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    HLN researched how long it takes for person on DR to actually get lethal injection. Average is 12 years. Stabby should be around 45 by then if that's the case. 12 years of solitude, nobody to listen to her bs, little visitation, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    If we dismiss my rambling as pure nonsense, then I think that easiest answer to why a knife was used could be explained very simply: guns make too much noise, knives don't. She was working very, very hard to cover her tracks, so the gun would have been used as a last resort.

    Also, I have a (mostly) unrelated question: My aunt called and asked me about "Vincent(?) Arias". She said he was a boyfriend or something? I was probably at work during this testimony. Who the hell is that?!

    I think you are dead on about the knife/gun. Victor Arias was a b/f Stabby claimed to have in Puerto Rico while she was there as an "exchange student" . Not quite sure how she qualified as an "exchange student" since she quit school at 17, before she graduated. he was supposedly another boyfriend that she had a "gut feeling" was cheating on her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Pretty much what we all do really. But ... Sneakers is the Great Finder! I enjoy it while I wait for bull dog Juan to bite Dr Fog in the ass.
    Who else copies entire articles over multiple posts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LurkerGirl View Post
    OMG...have to share! I had to take my husband to emergency this morning. I live in Colorado, and I have HLN on in the room here and the nurse who just came in asked abut the trial, I told her where it was as far as who's testified & who's let & she says....my fried introduced them. I ask who & she's friends with the houghes....however you spell it...chris & sky. She's busy so I couldn't ask a lot of questions. Just a small world!
    Hubby has a perforatted intestine...it's small & they think it will heal with antibiotics. Figers crossed it does. He has what's called diverticulitis. In case anyone is wondering.
    Six degrees of separation!

    Also, I hope your husband heals quickly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    Who else copies entire articles over multiple posts?
    Why are you complaining? Goodness, if you don't like it just scroll. I happened to enjoy it. JHChrist, this isn't kindergarten. Why be mean, isn't there enough of the kind of shit in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Oh wow. It's real alright.





    I think you'll find comfort there. They ALSO believe there were others involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    A lot of people have asked why Jodi used a knife instead of the gun. And some people who defend her question why, if she had stolen a gun, she would use a knife...
    Knives are more personal, knives are connected to venting anger/rage.

    Every time a knife is used is a murder it increases the odds of a personal relationship with the killer exponentially.

    Jodi didn't just want to kill Travis -- she wanted to exact revenge, she wanted to impart pain, she wanted to purge her rage.

    Jodi enjoyed murdering Travis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    I think you are dead on about the knife/gun. Victor Arias was a b/f Stabby claimed to have in Puerto Rico while she was there as an "exchange student" . Not quite sure how she qualified as an "exchange student" since she quit school at 17, before she graduated. he was supposedly another boyfriend that she had a "gut feeling" was cheating on her.
    .................

    ................

    ................Every time I think, "This case can't be any weirder," I am proven wrong. Is there any proof of any of that? Or is this just more Jodi's magical memory, where she, and she alone knows the truth, and everyone else is just stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poppym View Post
    Big Fat Yes! I am perplexed as to why JAII are suddenly showing up 2nd or 3rd in my google search for 'Jodi Arias- video- last 24hrs'??? Link does not take you to a video? Just to their site!
    Type in jodiariasisguilty.com and it sends you to the jodiariasisinnocent.com They are hilarious over there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freethinker View Post
    Have you seen any of the shows? Baez isn't REALLY defending Jodi. He's just a guest lawyer.
    No, that is why I just said, I refuse to give Baez fame. If you think he isn't going to defend slasher you are being gullible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
    BREAKING NEWS!!

    i believe I am in communication with life forms residing in outer space. On March 17, 2013, I received the following message in my 'Reps' box. It is highlighted with a red (as opposed to a green), rectangle immediately to the left of the message. It reads as follows:

    "sidoj terces si sreh" (Yes! That is exactly how it reads.)

    The message appears to be in reference to the comments in my post # 42002, regarding 'The Law of Attraction' that I put up on March 9, 2013. The only other clue I have as to the origin/domicile of the sender is the word(s) VioletPlanet which appears immediately to the right of the message. Besides English, I know only Klingon and Albanian. The message does not appear to be in either of these languages. Can anyone translate? I have also checked with my astronomer friends and they do not recognize the source as any known place in our solar system. They can only speculate that the message was dispatched from some very distant galaxy--where this 'Law of Attraction" perhaps originated and prevails--and that is why it took eight days to reach me. Is the sender trying to 'Attract' me in accordance with the 'Law?' Are there others on this thread who have been so blessed? What to do???

    I received a similar "red" communication from this Planet.

    I am alarmed and watching the skies now, but I have made a special hat out of tinfoil, so I am confident all will be well.


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    Cut the crap. Keep your whinging about smites and other nonsense out of the thread. Be civil to one another. You're presumably grown ups. Offenders might need a break, but it wouldn't be the first time we locked the thread, either.

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    What time is it supposed to start? I'm watching some broad learn how to change a tire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    .................

    ................ Or is this just more Jodi's magical memory, where she, and she alone knows the truth, and everyone else is just stupid.
    Just that. Definitely that! When she was still testifying I said what part of saying everybody else is lying and wrong but her doesn't she understand makes her look more like the pathological liar she is? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    I think you are dead on about the knife/gun. Victor Arias was a b/f Stabby claimed to have in Puerto Rico while she was there as an "exchange student" . Not quite sure how she qualified as an "exchange student" since she quit school at 17, before she graduated. he was supposedly another boyfriend that she had a "gut feeling" was cheating on her.
    I think Sneakers that Victor was from Costa Rica if he ever actually existed that is

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    Quote Originally Posted by DenverClipper View Post
    I think Sneakers that Victor was from Costa Rica if he ever actually existed that is
    I think you are right. I have my murderesses mixed up. It was Casey Anthony who had the Puerto Rico connection and Stabby with Costa Rica
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    Quote Originally Posted by AgathaAppleswine View Post
    A lot of people have asked why Jodi used a knife instead of the gun. And some people who defend her question why, if she had stolen a gun, she would use a knife.

    Knives are higher risk. They force you to be in contact with your victim, and they can also inflict a decent amount of damage to you if you aren't careful.

    These are fair questions, and I wanted to see what other folks thought.

    For someone like Jodi, I'm not sure a gun would be enough. I think because she is a highly sexualized person, she needed the outlet and release of the kill with a knife. I've heard in other cases where detectives believe that a knife is considered a highly sexualized way to kill someone. And I believe that this played a huge (albeit unconscious) role in the choice of weapons used.

    Also, knives feel very much like a branding. Each stab, each slice, is a mark of ownership. The killing doesn't make me think of rage either; I think she enjoyed the killing. I think she enjoyed planning it, fantasizing about it, and I think she enjoyed carrying it out.

    I truly believe that if she hadn't killed Travis, the next boyfriend she had would have been the one to die. There is something about the way she acts about the mend in her life that makes me very certain that if she hadn't been caught, she may have even become a serial killer.

    If we dismiss my rambling as pure nonsense, then I think that easiest answer to why a knife was used could be explained very simply: guns make too much noise, knives don't. She was working very, very hard to cover her tracks, so the gun would have been used as a last resort.

    Also, I have a (mostly) unrelated question: My aunt called and asked me about "Vincent(?) Arias". She said he was a boyfriend or something? I was probably at work during this testimony. Who the hell is that?!
    I think victor arias is/was Jodi's cousin. They dated I believe, but I could be wrong about that. It was also said that victor is Travis's middle name, so she could have made the whole thing up... But I do not know for certain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Yes. Either 10:00 or 10:15

    Nice...so I have time to check out the Lindsay Lohan debacle! Crosses fingers TMZ streams it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
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    I was talking to my sister about this earlier, she gave me a heads up to this as I don't watch the Vods of the trial as I usually watch it live.

    I wonder if that's why Donavan has been missing from court....

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    Jodi's Oath...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lorizfree View Post
    I think you'll find comfort there. They ALSO believe there were others involved.
    After watching this video; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9yM2MRM5to
    I'm beginning to think that there are no "They" at this website and that "They" is just one giant catfish with 50 different names.

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    Maybe someone can correct me, but I read that Arizona has not executed anyone since 1930 (or maybe that was the last woman executed there) - and I also read that they only have one lethal injection left. Not sure why that would be true, but someone linked to an article on either this forum or WS about it.

    Basically, the point is that even if she gets DP, it seems possible that she will never be executed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blah28 View Post
    I'm still thinking she wanted to make it look like two people were involved in his death..
    That is what I think; in her Flores phone call, she tells him how strong, fit and quick Travis was and that it would have to be two individuals to overtake him. I do wonder why the ninja tale included a female rather than two males.

    Quote Originally Posted by ShellJett View Post
    Listened to her phone interview with Flores again - chilling. Lots of inconsistencies with her testimony, but caught 1 that is sticking in my mind. During all the back & forth during her initial cross about shaving photo, Stabby claims she took the pic. TA liked it, posted on his FB or MS profile page. During phone interview with Flores she states that TA took the picture himself. Inconsequential I know, but just 1 more inconsistency. Did anyone else pick up on that?

    Have question about what was actually admitted into evidence. Phone interview with Flores, text from TA calling her Sociopath, the 2 interrogation videos, jailhouse interviews. Will jury have access to those in deliberations?
    I think she was referring to a different picture he took that showed his camera in the reflection. The profile pic, he is not holding a camera.

    I think the jury can ask to review any of the evidence presented.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Thank You Sneaks, those are some very interesting articles. Samuels is a whoremonger that will say anything for money or a little whordi action.

    Fluff alert:
    I had dinner last night with an old high school friend on her way to a physician's conference in Vegas; i asked one of the others, a civil court prosecutor (i think thats the term?) if she knows Sherry Stephens. She does from years ago, but replied she has not been following the trial much she is so busy, had to get a motion in by this morning on a Colorado City FLDS case. Anyway, my friend from Cleveland had never heard of the Jodi Arias case, and the husband of the atty said, oh, that's the one that shot her ex six times, stabbed him and slit his throat. In a way, i was envious :/

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