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    I was watching the opening statements, and noticed someone sitting on T's side...does this look like Dennis Alexander?

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    Quote Originally Posted by queenaevadamthng View Post
    I don't know why I felt the compulsion to watch that stupid video again with Jodi standing on her head. It's like looking at those really disgusting pictures of veneral disease in the family medical book. Looking, getting grossed out, looking again, then slamming the book shut swearing to never look again.

    This is not how someone acts that has PTSD!!! Also loosing only "parts" of her memory, conveniently the ones that would hurt her but remembering everything else that she says was so traumatic to her, like all the times TA "abused" her. (That's if u consider someone breaking up with u as abuse)

    My brother commited suicide almost 15 years ago and I KNOW what PTSD is. I can tell u every single thing about the day It happened down to what I was wearing. I can tell u how I was on my knees throwing up at the hospital as I saw him dying. I WISH I could have had that so called FOG that she talks about. For years I would wake up in the middle of the night, my clothes soaked with sweat because I was having horrible nightmares. I couldn't eat. I couldn't sleep. I couldn't hear about anything that had to do with guns. I couldn't go into his bedroom.... And my parents finally sold the house and moved. I couldn't talk about it for years without breaking down crying and even to this day I still do. It'll never be easy... Never! And... U sure as s#*? wouldn't find me the day of the memorial service wanting to check out the crime scene.

    She is a totally crazy heartless bitch. I can hardly believe it when I watch her on the stand and she is so composed about it all. She knows exactly what happened, its a FOG of convenience! I truly hope this jury isn't buying her BS because she is a lying evil person. Basically her mouth is moving... She's lying!

    I think she keeps trying to play the anal sex story because she's trying to make ppl believe the pedo story. She literally makes me sick to my stomach. All the sex BS has nothing to do with the crime... Nothing. I think the sex was generally her idea because she thought it was a way to keep him around. And taping the conversations... My guess is that he had no idea.

    Has anyone seen the "Jodi is innocent" website? I love how it tells u to check out their sister site "Casey Anthony is innocent". Are these ppl for real?

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    [QUOTE=Brillig;3357338]I think if the attack had gone as planned, and all the "mess" was contained within the shower, then there would not have been her bloody palm print in the hallway with her blood mixed in, or her hair pulled out in a struggle. I also think if things had gone as planned, there would not have been a huge mess to try and clean up, and she would have been less frantic, and she would have remembered to either take the whole camera with her, or at least the memory card.[/URL]

    Oh I don't doubt that she would have remembered to take the cam with her, if that had been the case, not at all. I just think that she is the super crazy type of person that (had the murder even gone off without a hitch) she would have still taken photos of his body, or the room, something... or maybe she would have taken some token of him to remember the event (or for whatever reason those crazy people do that!). She just gives me that creeper heebie-jeebie vibe. Like her wanting to see the autopsy photos, or whatever... I think she is just downright creepy enough to take her own before leaving!

    Like the last, clear, photo of his face. He looks clearly upset in some way, but there's the photo she took anyway. Super creepy of her if she took it on purpose, after having him under her control in some way.

    Sorry if not making much sense or being clear... pain meds are scrambling my darn brain! Real brain-scramblage, too, not the fake Jodi kind, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    I was watching the opening statements, and noticed someone sitting on T's side...does this look like Dennis Alexander?

    Very interesting! There certainly are similarities.

    It is weird he would not be sitting directly with his siblings, but not impossible if they are estranged, or did not want attention focused on him because of his criminal/meth addict past.

    Here is another pic of Dennis (in better days, one assumes):


    The hairline in this pic also seems very similar to the man you spotted in court.

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    someone is ALWAYS posting in this thread. 24/7

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    Very thought provoking. I also think she had him sit down for that last photo in order to put him in the most vulnerable position. And, since she was directing the photo session, probably said something like, "Here, sit down. Good. Now, turn your head away and close your eyes. Good...perfect..." And then the stabbing began. The camera strap would have been around her neck with the camera accidentally knocked into the timer mode. I wonder what the pre-set is for that kind of camera - how many seconds between each click of the shutter and how that fits with the time between those last three pictures. Anyone know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bete noire View Post
    Oh I don't doubt that she would have remembered to take the cam with her, if that had been the case, not at all. I just think that she is the super crazy type of person that (had the murder even gone off without a hitch) she would have still taken photos of his body, or the room, something... or maybe she would have taken some token of him to remember the event (or for whatever reason those crazy people do that!). She just gives me that creeper heebie-jeebie vibe. Like her wanting to see the autopsy photos, or whatever... I think she is just downright creepy enough to take her own before leaving!
    She is indeed crazy, so it certainly is possible that she might have done something like that (although keeping those photos in any form would have been insanely dangerous, since she was sure to be a prime suspect).

    Quote Originally Posted by bete noire View Post
    Like the last, clear, photo of his face. He looks clearly upset in some way, but there's the photo she took anyway. Super creepy of her if she took it on purpose, after having him under her control in some way.
    My personal theory is that the last photo of his face is Travis trying to look like a sexy, Calvin Klein model (with that traditional haughty, bored model look). I do not think she had pulled a weapon yet, I think she would not have done that until she got him to sit down in the shower.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khile View Post
    Very thought provoking. I also think she had him sit down for that last photo in order to put him in the most vulnerable position. And, since she was directing the photo session, probably said something like, "Here, sit down. Good. Now, turn your head away and close your eyes. Good...perfect..." And then the stabbing began. The camera strap would have been around her neck with the camera accidentally knocked into the timer mode. I wonder what the pre-set is for that kind of camera - how many seconds between each click of the shutter and how that fits with the time between those last three pictures. Anyone know?
    I think that sounds VERY plausible. And that might be exactly what happened to turn on the timer and take the pics (the other option being that the shutter release button got bumped a few times in the struggle).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Very interesting! There certainly are similarities.

    It is weird he would not be sitting directly with his siblings, but not impossible if they are estranged, or did not want attention focused on him because of his criminal/meth addict past.

    Here is another pic of Dennis (in better days, one assumes):


    The hairline in this pic also seems very similar to the man you spotted in court.
    He was fidgeting a lot and looked very uncomfortable. Now that Nurmi has requested T's "criminal" record, I hope they don't drag him onto the witness stand.

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    Brillig said: "My personal theory is that the last photo of his face is Travis trying to look like a sexy, Calvin Klein model (with that traditional haughty, bored model look). I do not think she had pulled a weapon yet, I think she would not have done that until she got him to sit down in the shower.

    I agree. I don't think she gave any clue of what was coming until she had him seated in the shower. The last photo of his face just looks sad if anything. Looking straight into the camera lens, with his killer looking back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    He was fidgeting a lot and looked very uncomfortable. Now that Nurmi has requested T's "criminal" record, I hope they don't drag him onto the witness stand.
    Travis Victor Alexander's "criminal record" was quashed by the judge on Friday (Tanisha Sorrenson wrote this on the State page)

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    Brillig posts: Also (in my opinion): Because she had PLANNED to kill him in the shower, and how DARE he mess up her plan by dying in another spot?!? So she moved him back to where he was "supposed" to be.

    Exactly brill .. it was her final ultimate control.

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    khile asks: I wonder what the pre-set is for that kind of camera -how many seconds between each click of the shutter and how that fits with the time between those last three pictures. Anyone know?

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    Khile I think I recall one of the pundants saying the model of Travis' camera did not have a multiple shot timer feature. Another thing that is kinda unsettling was on one of Travis' last MySpace page (in May?) he posted, "I need to buy a camera". Kinda weird to think that camera in the long run ended up as his voice to say his side of what happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khile View Post
    Brillig said: "My personal theory is that the last photo of his face is Travis trying to look like a sexy, Calvin Klein model (with that traditional haughty, bored model look). I do not think she had pulled a weapon yet, I think she would not have done that until she got him to sit down in the shower.

    I agree. I don't think she gave any clue of what was coming until she had him seated in the shower. The last photo of his face just looks sad if anything. Looking straight into the camera lens, with his killer looking back.
    From what I have read and watched, he was already sitting down in the shower for that last headshot of him alive. Strangely, that last living photo is also the only photo in-focus of the many photos consciously taken of him by her during the shower pre-slaughter event. She was a semi-pro photographer . She made some money from this trade., Weddings etc. Travis looks agitated/ intense in this last portrait photo. Cover his mouth with your hands and just look at his eyes.

    This signifies the following to me:

    Pre-slaughter fuzzy photos in shower occurred either because she was arguing with him about taking her to Cancun and/or highly enraged and nervous/agitated because:

    1. She was not getting the answers she wanted
    2. She knew she was about to kill him.

    This last headshot photo in-focus was her Goodbye to him. After this shot, she pulled the knife and began verbally threatening to kill him He called her, " a crazy fucking bitch". First fatal stab wound to the chest. And the slaughter continued....

    Also know that Cancun is listed in the book "1000 Places to Go Before You Die". This was THEIR book, their travels, their romance, their life together. How could Travis even think of taking another woman to Cancun....? Not going to happen....not at all. Slit.

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    wasthinking comments: In other words, it is unusual that examination of the wound allows one to determine if the wound was inflicted in a right-to-left direction or a left-to-right direction

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    It looks like you have done your research. I do have a ? for you. Do you recall hearing along the way a comment by someone trying to say Jodi could have been with her back to TA and she might have been reaching over behind her and made those back stab wounds that way to get him off of her? Or does anyone else recall or was I in a fog?

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    From what I have read and watched, he was already sitting down in the shower for that last headshot of him alive. Strangely, that last living photo is also the only photo in-focus of the many photos consciously taken of him by her during the shower pre-slaughter event. She was a semi-pro photographer . She made some money from this trade., Weddings etc. Travis looks agitated/ intense in this last portrait photo. Cover his mouth with your hands and just look at his eyes.

    This signifies the following to me:

    Pre-slaughter fuzzy photos in shower occurred either because she was arguing with him about taking her to Cancun and/or highly enraged and nervous/agitated because:

    1. She was not getting the answers she wanted
    2. She knew she was about to kill him.

    This last headshot photo in-focus was her Goodbye to him. After this shot, she pulled the knife and began verbally threatening to kill him He called her, " a crazy fucking bitch". First fatal stab wound to the chest. And the slaughter continued....

    Also know that Cancun is listed in the book "1000 Places to Go Before You Die". This was THEIR book, their travels, their romance, their life together. How could Travis even think of taking another woman to Cancun....? Not going to happen....not at all. Slit.

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    serrated no ...never serrated..........martinez said scolloped lol
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    I agree...he never mentioned scalloped or serrated knifes. He said all the cuts were clean edged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bete noire View Post
    Good question Annie, I had completely forgotten about that... or was I in a fog during his testimony?
    Do you remember if you forget something in a fog-related incident?
    I will just add that to the list of the other questions that will NEVER be friggin' answered with any kind of even remotely satisfactory answer. SOOO damned frustrating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brillig View Post
    Yep. She not only had to get him in the shower, she also had to convince him to do the "Calvin Kline model" posing, culminating with the pose of him sitting down in the shower.

    I honestly think this was ALL part of her plan. This was her way of getting the advantage over him. If she started her attack when he was SEATED in that tiny shower, it would give her a significant advantage, and make her more powerful despite her smaller size and lesser strength. Pretty hard for poor Travis to leap to his feet quickly from that seated position in that tiny box even if he was not stabbed. But once he was stabbed, making it extra hard for him to get up.

    If he had just died in that shower, as she had planned, without ever stepping out of it, the cleanup would have been a snap, and there is a good chance she would have gotten away with it.

    Also, if he was seated in the shower in the position of the last pic, that could explain why several of the major stab wounds were clustered on the right side of his chest. That is the side that would have been easiest to stab with him seated in the shower and her leaning in to stab him.

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    Brilliant thanks for the laugh

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    Quote Originally Posted by gigiann View Post
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    It looks like you have done your research. I do have a ? for you. Do you recall hearing along the way a comment by someone trying to say Jodi could have been with her back to TA and she might have been reaching over behind her and made those back stab wounds that way to get him off of her? Or does anyone else recall or was I in a fog?

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    wasthinking post: Originally Posted by andrea0121 Jodi can only use pencils in court so I'm wondering where the pen came from? I caught her one day sneaking JW's pen! I'm sure it's on video somewhere.

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    LoL...yessss I remember that!!! He walked away from her....then says "my pen please" . That was funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    Travis Victor Alexander's "criminal record" was quashed by the judge on Friday (Tanisha Sorrenson wrote this on the State page)
    It should have been considering it was NEVER his criminal record to begin with!!

    RIP Travis


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    Quote Originally Posted by loonywop View Post
    Brilliant thanks for the laugh
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