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    I've said it before but I'll mention it again, the only thing I see in that last photo is guilt. And remorse. And disappointment in himself for sinning with her yet again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***JiLL*** View Post
    If she pulled the knife or gun on him and then took the last picture of his face, I find it odd that he would just stand still for it and not make a move to grab the weapon or something. I agree that he looks upset in the picture though.
    My best guess is she took that last picture of his face and then had him turn around for one more shot of his back - maybe even down on his knees facing away from her - and that's when she started stabbing him. That would have put him at his most vulnerable.
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    Wow. HLN is going all out on this reenactment they're going to do. this should be interesting

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post


    Wow. HLN is going all out on this reenactment they're going to do. this should be interesting
    Omg when is this supposed to air?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***JiLL*** View Post
    Omg when is this supposed to air?
    Monday night per Vinnie P's twitter. On their new HLN after dark show that comes on after Dr. Drew

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    Quote Originally Posted by ***JiLL*** View Post
    If she pulled the knife or gun on him and then took the last picture of his face, I find it odd that he would just stand still for it and not make a move to grab the weapon or something. I agree that he looks upset in the picture though.
    I think he was possibly in shock. I mean, crazy as she was, he probably didn't expect her to go all Psycho on him in the shower. And well, he did at one point grab the knife, because of the defensive wounds on his hands. Although we don't know when he made the grab, it's possible it was right as she made the first stab.

    Based on the direction of the chest wound, it's possible he was beginning to stand up, but, he really had nowhere to go, unless he knocked her down. Jodi was blocking his own way out of the shower.


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    Holy crap, did you guys see the video they're showing on HLN? It's part of her first interrogation that hasn't been shown before... she's doing a headstand and laughing, talking to herself about her makeup, digging through the trash...

    It really sucks that the jury won't get to see that... this chick is batshit crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyT View Post
    She was taking pics on his camera, so that may account for the snaps of him in the bedroom. I agree with those speculating that the shower pics looked unnatural, like he is being threatened or argued with. The tension in his body and face is obvious. Many here agree that the final pic in the shower looks haunted, pleading - like he is recognising something is very wrong.
    My interpretation is that he is trying to look Calvin Kline ad-ish. There is usually a kernal of truth in Stabby's stories, and I think that is the kernal of truth in this one.

    I think she got him to agree to the shower pics by saying that he looked so good after all his slimming down and working out, that he was "so hot".... like some sexy model in a Calvin Kline ad (I can even hear her saying it in my head). I think she instructed him through various poses, with the whole (premeditated) goal being that she would get him to sit down in the shower, thus making him very vulnerable. I think Travis in a seated position in that tiny shower was her evil plan from the start.

    Travis is just a regular guy. Regular guys don't know how to pose like, or have the facial expressions of, models. Poor Travis is doing his best to look like a sexy Calvin Kline model, with Jodi urging him on and calling out instructions. My interpretation is that the full face photo near the end is Travis trying to look like a model (you know, that haughty, bored, vacantly sexy, typical model look).

    When regular people try to portray the "model facial expression", the results can be quite odd. To test this out, try asking a friend, or significant other, or whomever, to "look like a model" with their facial expression. I think the results will be fairly similar to the look on Travis' face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    I think he was possibly in shock. I mean, crazy as she was, he probably didn't expect her to go all Psycho on him in the shower. And well, he did at one point grab the knife, because of the defensive wounds on his hands. Although we don't know when he made the grab, it's possible it was right as she made the first stab.

    Based on the direction of the chest wound, it's possible he was beginning to stand up, but, he really had nowhere to go, unless he knocked her down. Jodi was blocking his own way out of the shower.
    The defensive wounds happened at some point while she was stabbing him, I just don't think he would sit still for a picture with her holding a knife or gun and not try to make some sort of movement to stop her. I think the attack came directly after the picture was taken. She may have been saying some fucked up things to him, which caused the emotion in his face and he knew something was very wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadameX View Post
    Holy crap, did you guys see the video they're showing on HLN? It's part of her first interrogation that hasn't been shown before... she's doing a headstand and laughing, talking to herself about her makeup, digging through the trash...

    It really sucks that the jury won't get to see that... this chick is batshit crazy.
    i don't know all the legal stuff, but why can't the jury see this?
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    The only place she had enough physical advantage was with him trapped in the shower. The door had to be open for her to attack. She planned it all, very cleverly. She would say she needed to have the shower door open to take the photos, but really it was to make him vulnerable.

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    Considering how Jodi was fixated on wearing makeup and looking good in her mugshot, I wonder how much it is eating at her that she has to appear in front of court people, as well as broadcast on tv and the internet, looking much less than attractive?


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    Quote Originally Posted by beli View Post
    i don't know all the legal stuff, but why can't the jury see this?
    They said it was "prejudicial". I guess that's why it wasn't included with the rest of the video from her interrogation.

    This was from the first interrogation before she was arrested. They previously showed parts of it, where she's doing back bends over the chair. Apparently there was more to it--far more bizarre--and somehow now HLN has their hands on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post


    Wow. HLN is going all out on this reenactment they're going to do. this should be interesting
    They sure need to be sure those shelf sizes are correct. Unless those builders are super tall, they sure don't look as tall as the original pictures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Considering how Jodi was fixated on wearing makeup and looking good in her mugshot, I wonder how much it is eating at her that she has to appear in front of court people, as well as broadcast on tv and the internet, looking much less than attractive?
    A while back someone here posted some comments from a friend of theirs who works at the courthouse (sorry, I don't remember who). They said Jodi was obsessed with her looks and did bathroom checks as often as she was allowed...

    So yeah... you're probably right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    So, for real, no court today?? I guess I will have to keep cleaning my house. Sigh.
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    I did too and I believe this is the song:
    Dido ? Here With Me

    I didn't hear you leave
    I wonder how am I still here
    I don't want to move a thing
    [B]It might change my memory[/B]

    Oh I am what I am
    I'll do what I want but I can't hide
    I won't go I won't sleep
    I can't breathe until you're resting here with me
    I won't leave I can't hide
    I cannot be until you're resting here with me

    I don't want to call my friends
    They might wake me from this dream
    And I can't leave this bed,
    Risk forgetting all that's been

    Oh I am what I am
    I'll do what I want,
    But I can't hide
    I won't go, I won't sleep,

    I can't breathe,
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    Remind you of anyone?


    Someone but with all of the fog I'm having a hard time with my memory.

    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Or, a Crime of Passion defense..would have made more sense.
    There is no crime of passion defense in AZ which is why defense is trying to sneak this Dr.'s sketchy testimony in through the back door re: reactive/implementation

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    Sorry to go Nurmi "let's go back', but does anyone know of any video of trial day 1? I looked on Youtube, but I can only find the audio clip.
    Have hunted high and low, even on media sites and have only ever found the one you mention.

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    I knew she could do jail time standing on her head, this is just proof positive.
    LMFAO

    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Why in the heck is HLN saying the knives in the dishwasher photo is new? I saw it and posted it a few weeks ago when we were discussing it when Jodi testified to it on the stand.
    Why believe anything HLN says or does when they are covering a criminal case? Most of their facts are incorrect and most of the "experts" or analysts they bring on are unfamiliar with real facts of the case beyond what is publicized daily.

    Quote Originally Posted by beli View Post
    i don't know all the legal stuff, but why can't the jury see this?
    WE don't know yet that they won't. Martinez has a rebuttal case to put on and he still has cross exam of the defense "experts" to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beli View Post
    i don't know all the legal stuff, but why can't the jury see this?
    Two possibilities..... either one side objected to it being admitted, or Juan just decided that entering it would be too big of a gamble.

    I think the problem is, that while it clearly shows her to be laughing just minutes after allegedly crying, all while she is in the process of being charged with murder (which could be used to show what a faker she is), it also clearly shows that she is indeed batshit crazy. There would be no way to know if jurors would interpret that as "wow, she is totally bonkers, I can now clearly picture her planning and carrying out this terrible murder" .... OR..... "wow, she is totally bonkers, anyone that crazy is not responsible for her crimes because she is SO cray cray, she needs mental health help, not incarceration".

    Since there is no way to know how the jury would interpret it, perhaps Juan thought it would be best to just leave the whole thing alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadameX View Post
    They said it was "prejudicial". I guess that's why it wasn't included with the rest of the video from her interrogation.

    This was from the first interrogation before she was arrested. They previously showed parts of it, where she's doing back bends over the chair. Apparently there was more to it--far more bizarre--and somehow now HLN has their hands on it.

    FOX actually scooped HLN. Not that it matters. I'm wondering if defense team leaked it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MadameX View Post
    They said it was "prejudicial". I guess that's why it wasn't included with the rest of the video from her interrogation.

    This was from the first interrogation before she was arrested. They previously showed parts of it, where she's doing back bends over the chair. Apparently there was more to it--far more bizarre--and somehow now HLN has their hands on it.
    Fox News obtained it from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Dept. I assume they filed some kind of FOIA request.


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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    The only place she had enough physical advantage was with him trapped in the shower. The door had to be open for her to attack. She planned it all, very cleverly. She would say she needed to have the shower door open to take the photos, but really it was to make him vulnerable.
    YES. This is it exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coconut View Post
    The only place she had enough physical advantage was with him trapped in the shower. The door had to be open for her to attack. She planned it all, very cleverly. She would say she needed to have the shower door open to take the photos, but really it was to make him vulnerable.

    Exactly. Naked, sitting in a very small shower stall. She thought one stab to the heart or as close she could get it would do it. I think she stole the gun as a back up plan but didn't intend to actually use it, unless things went wrong. Which they did. I wish Travis could have scratched her or hurt her far worse than what she escaped that house with.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justice11 View Post
    So, for real, no court today?? I guess I will have to keep cleaning my house. Sigh.
    I edified my laundry today but I'm still de-edifying my vacuuming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCBlonde View Post
    Fox News obtained it from the Maricopa County Sheriff's Dept. I assume they filed some kind of FOIA request.
    Couldn't have been Maricopa County... that video was shot in California. Detective Flores interviewed her there before she was arrested. She was extradited to Arizona sometime later.

    The second interrogation was also in California, where she was wearing the orange prison garb. They wear stripes in Maricopa County...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartyT View Post
    I suspect the objection was based on her playing the pity card - poor old murderer, having to live in a jail smaller than a closet. I doubt they think she is out on bail - before being selected as jurors, they would have known this.
    I wish Juan could have pointed out that Ta's casket is much smaller than her jail cell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Exactly. Naked, sitting in a very small shower stall. She thought one stab to the heart or as close she could get it would do it. I think she stole the gun as a back up plan but didn't intend to actually use it, unless things went wrong. Which they did. I wish Travis could have scratched her or hurt her far worse than what she escaped that house with.
    I agree 100% about the gun. Backup only, in case of emergency.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MadameX View Post
    Couldn't have been Maricopa County... that video was shot in California. Detective Flores interviewed her there before she was arrested. She was extradited to Arizona sometime later.

    The second interrogation was also in California, where she was wearing the orange prison garb. They wear stripes in Maricopa County...
    On one of the airings on HLN, there was a little icon in the upper right corner that said Fox News/Maricopa County Sheriff. So perhaps HLN got it wrong, but that's what they attributed.


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