Defense shrink LIED under oath
He stated him and Nurmi confront Jodi about Ninja story
JW asks if he ever needed to confront her again
"No" says the professional liar
Flash forward
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzDXJVaFAN4
6:20
Took Mr Nurmi and I a couple visits
NC let's just agree to disagree..K? I can totally appreciate and respect your opinions. If everyone totally agreed here this forum would be as boring as crap. Debate is creates innovation. It's all good : )
Oh it's something stupid about Snow White being an abused woman. She was valued only for her looks (the fairest of them all) and she was made to cook and clean for the dwarfs. She was sweet and docile and this epitome of how women "should be", subservient, etc.Originally Posted by Doll-Face
Here's a link to a video if you're interested. As soon as I saw it was 90 minutes, I decided not to bore myself.
I found an except from Google Books and screenshotted it.
"Well, it's YOUR fog..." - J. Martinez
Not sure why you quoted me since I don't recall saying I DIED laughing about it... but YES it WAS funny.
Like a couple people above me said, this is actually a time for joking. Its one of the ways people cope with horrible situations. YOU may not like that, but the forum doesn't revolve around you and you're tastes.
I'm actually quite offended you'd quote me to post that, being as I am NO stranger to tragedy and horror and have always used joking as part if the coping mechanism to deal with such.
Lets see... Ive had not one, but 2 ex bfs commit suicide. Gunshots to the head. Someone broke into my little brothers apartment while he was sleeping and stabbed him in the head and neck almost 50x with a screwdriver (miraculously, he lived). My bf (at the time), well his little brother was beaten to death with a hatchet and a hammer by his so-called friends. And that's just SOME of it. As you can see, I'm well acquainted with pain and tragedy. So please, don't tell me how to deal with it.
Yes. It would be rather boring if we all believed the same way.
Like I said, I don't believe she was any kind of criminal mastermind. But, I believe she took those steps to hide her actions, and she thought they would work. They obviously didn't.
"Well, it's YOUR fog..." - J. Martinez
Yes, gallow's humor. I like this quote about it.
Gallows humor has the social effect of strengthening the morale of the oppressed and undermines the morale of the oppressors. According to Wylie Sypher, "to be able to laugh at evil and error means we have surmounted them.
"Well, it's YOUR fog..." - J. Martinez
He also said that all things psychological are connected to the brain psyologically and then put up a slide saying that psychogenics are not.?!
7. Hypothetically Dr Dick, If you were aware that Stabby testified in this trial, under oath, that she lied to everyone about everything, would that change your opinion?
I'm still confused about missing pages/journals. When did pages to his book diappear? How did Skye Hughes end up with TA's journal(s)? Is this the same one stolen by Stabby?
Hilarious. Stabby needs a quart STAT!Hi everyone!
I have been coming to this site for awhile and finally decided to make an account. I have been following the Jodi Arias case and when I saw these drinks at the grocery store... I about died laughing! Can anybody get Jodi a can of this stuff? lol
Good question. She hasn't been in court in weeks. I still like her for the burglary at the Prosecution's defense expert's house. Matt McCartney, according to rumor and something posted here yesterday (I think ChelseyDawn posted it?) has been told if he steps foot in AZ he'll be facing perjury charges in relation to the forged letters and lies he told in open court back in 2010/2011
Yes but doubtful this will happen as it's a death penalty case. In AZ self defense is an affirmative defense, meaning the defense must show equal force was used. WE all know that's bull in this case but Judge will want to avoid this coming back on appeal.
That ^ Imagine how enraged she must have been when he wouldn't just die!
Pffft to her plea attempts. She tried to BLACKMAIL TA's family and the Prosecution into a lighter sentence. Either give her a sentence she thought was fair, once she knew all of the evidence and that her ninja story wasn't going to fly, or she was going to trash TA in court. Paint him as an abuser and a pedophile.
Thank goodness TA's family is brave enough to stand up for TA and courageous enough to sit there every day listen to her horseshit.They have displayed nothing but dignity and grace. I cannot imagine how difficult this must be for all of them.
Thank goodness Juan Martinez is a prosecutor unafraid to fight for the victim. I heard someone say the other day that he dislikes Stabby and that's why he went after her aggressively on cross. I hope he does dislike her, after all of the lies she has told, after she tried to blackmail him and TA''s family into a plea agreement with a light sentence, after wasting untold man hours and tax payer dollars but most of all, I hope he really dislikes her for she did to TA.
Awesome quote. Very true.
Now NC I totally agree with you in re: about the gallows humor..Now gimme some sugar I am your SC neighbor.. : )
Wilmont stopped him right quick.
Took Mr Nurmi and I a couple visits to explain to her the new story.
Beta I am truly sorry that you have had to deal with so much in your lifetime.
The .25 caliber gun, a DVD player w/remote and a bookshelf size stereo and if you believe Stabby, a ten dollar bill and a twenty dollar bill.
Thank you. I'm just glad Im lucky enough to have awesome people in my life and happy times, too, to balance it out a bit.
Just makes me extra sad for the Alexanders. I know a LOT of the things they are feeling with the murder, trial and all... and I wouldn't wish those feelings on anyone...except Jodi. She truly deserves to feel every bit of the pain they feel 100x over.
There was a police report about an alleged break-in, in which a .25 caliber gun disappeared. No doubt the gun that Jodi used on Travis. This was from Jodi's grandparent's house, where she was living at the time. In staging the robbery, Jodi also took a dvd player and a handful of other things, and claimed 30 dollars was stolen from her room. Martinez asked about her laptop on the stand. In the police report, she said that it was hidden in a laundry basket and thus not taken. But, on the stand, she said she had it with her at the time and she was not at home.
Yep, absolutely disgusting. I read that with a 2nd Degree plea -- which is what she wanted -- she would've face a sentence of between 10-22 years. She already has 5 in, so given good behavior, etc., it would've been possible for her to be out in 5 years or so. Unacceptable and the prosecution would not go for it at all.
Howdy neighbor!
"Well, it's YOUR fog..." - J. Martinez
Maybe that's what she was returning to Darryl Brewere, the remote to the DVD player she stole from her grandmother
- Beauty is a beast.
Was watching Dr Drew the other night, and he put up a pic I had not yet seen of the back of Travis' s head with two large deep hashes. I remember Dr Horn testifying he had to shave some hair away to see certain wounds to the head. I guess I thought I'd already seen the extent of those injuries when I saw the back knife wounds and one under the back of his right ear.
This new pic horrified me, not just because of the pain Travis must have experienced, but because this bitch is claiming self defense. I can't look at any wounds to his backside...or neck...and ever come to that conclusion.
I believe there are probably more pics we haven't seen of poor Travis. I sure hope the jury is privy to all of them.
Thanks guys for the info about what was stolen.
[QUOTING DOLLFACE: Was watching Dr Drew the other night, and he put up a pic I had not yet seen of the back of Travis' s head with two large deep hashes. I remember Dr Horn testifying he had to shave some hair away to see certain wounds to the head. I guess I thought I'd already seen the extent of those injuries when I saw the back knife wounds and one under the back of his right ear.*This new pic horrified me, not just because of the pain Travis must have experienced, but because this bitch is claiming self defense. I can't look at any wounds to his backside...or neck...and ever come to that conclusion.I believe there are probably more pics we haven't seen of poor Travis. I sure hope the jury is privy to all of them.]
I'm sure all of you have heard reaccounts by survivors of brutal crimes that said that after the initial injury they stopped feeling pain and went totally numb or passed out. I really hope that this was the case with TA. I can't stand the thought of anyone having to suffer.
I think it's ridiculous that this doctor just gave Jodi a PTSD questionnaire and then diagnosed her with PTSD. I don't think it would take a genius to fake your answers. All along she has wanted to appear as the victim and answering the questions "right" gave her a perfect opportunity to do so.
What was especially sickening about those head wounds is that she actually chipped bone away from his skull with at least one of them. Just imagine the rage that psycho was in to do that. Poor Travis had to be terrified.
In looking at the "Snow White" excerpts I posted, I have to say that I feel Jodi is much more akin to the Evil Queen in personality, than Snow White. She most definitely is manipulative, calculating, egotistical and aggressive, and dare I say, evil. I don't find her interesting, but Travis (and others) obviously did. And Travis got in the way of her happily ever after by dumping him, and she certainly "took care" of that didn't she?
Here's an HLN profile of the jurors. http://www.hlntv.com/article/2013/03...odi-arias-jury
"Well, it's YOUR fog..." - J. Martinez
Yes. I just went back last night and watched the day that OG testified - well just the part when JM cross-examined him. I think that might have been my ah-ha moment for this trial - well one of the big ones. When JM asked OG about Jodi calling him about borrowing the gas cans and OG said, barely above a whisper, "Yes".
And then JM asked him if Matt McCartney ever showed up at his house. OG says he doesn't recall that. but he ends up recalling when Jodi returned to drop off a remote control. that day was huge!
But:
This guy's testimony will have no affect whatsoever on whether she gets the DP. The was it works is that once the verdict of first degree (premeditated) murder is reached, the next step in the process is the penalty phase, where the jury has to decide on the DP or LWOP. This is all spelled out in the AZ criminal code, Title 13, statute #13-751, Penalty Phase.
The jury does this by considering whether there are aggravating factors (toward DP) or mitigating factors (toward "leniency"' i.e. LWOP.)
There are 13 aggravating factors enumerated in the statute including murder committed in an "especially heinous, cruel or depraved manner" (yep, think this qualifies!) and 5 mitigating factors including age of the defendant, capacity to appreciate wronfulness ot the act, etc...none of which are whether the defendant was 'traumatized'' by the act or does/does not remember committing the murder.
The DP in given if the jury finds one or more aggravating circumstances and determines that there are no mitigating circumstances sufficiently substantial to call for leniency, i.e. LWOP.
So, I don't get the point of this guy's testimony at all...if anything I think he was damaging to the defense, both by equating Jodi to police officers and servicemen and by talking about how murderers are 'traumatized' by their crimes. Really?? We are supposed to feel sympathy for the poor traumatized murderers now??
Has anyone else heard that the Gallery has advised Jodi Arias that there is no room on the walls between the Monets and the van Goghs, but there is a spot available between the calendar and list of emergency numbers on the door of the Refrigerator in the utility kitchen? That is, until the owner's children enter kindergarten!
"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
*way it works*
LOLOL!!! What an great picture, considering that Jodi's "fog" seems to be a bit problem with her testimony! Juan should be notified of this stuff, immediately...get a truckload over to Jodi, quick!!!!Welcome! Great first post! Love it!Welcome!!
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