Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[AnnieBelle]

I definitely was not impressed by JA's artwork.

I am not, either. Her perspective is off, in many of the drawings. Not that I could do any better, because I sure couldn't. But, it's kind of laughable to think she actually dreamed of them being in a gallery? I mean, I love to sew, but I don't expect my designs will be grabbed up by the House of Chanel, anytime soon. Yikes.

Then again, fits right in with her distorted image of self.

[wasthinking]

I'm so tired of the defense dragging this trial out with IMO useless crap only meant to overload the jurors. I'm thinking at this point the jury is about half-past givashit with this foolishness and if anything the defense is digging a deeper hole for JA

We as watchers have grown weary but think about this, by dragging it out, the Def has burned out the jury! The fact finders that will put this killer away or give her the DP.
I will gladly wait through many more sinking ship days knowing every minute they use is bringing us closer to a verdict they have well earned with their BS. I get a Marsha Clark feeling for this DT : ) Ruined careers

[Justice11]

Karma, it is well established, is a BITCH



But but Van Gogh, Monet?



December 2009.

The Van Gogh and Monet thing may be one of the MOST idiotic things Jodi has ever lied about. Seriously, I really don't think her friend owned either one and Jodi's "art" would never be placed next to it.

[Rockabillychick]

Found this on wikipedia in regards to the son of sam law:

In certain cases a Son of Sam law can be extended beyond the criminals themselves to include friends, neighbors, and family members of the lawbreaker who seek to profit by telling publishers and filmmakers of their relation to the criminal. In other cases, a person may not financially benefit from the sale of a story or any other mementos pertaining to the crime—if the criminal was convicted after the date lawmakers passed the law in the states where the crime was committed.

also this:

After numerous revisions, New York adopted a law in 2001, again known as the "Son of Sam" law.[1] This law requires that victims of crimes be notified whenever a person convicted of a crime receives $10,000 (US) or more—from virtually any source.[2] The law then attaches a springing statute of limitations, giving victims an extended period of time to sue the perpetrator of the crime in civil court for their crimes.[3] This law also authorizes a state agency, the Crime Victims' Board, to act on the victims' behalf in some limited circumstances.[4] Thus far, the current New York law has survived constitutional scrutiny.

It appears it is not a clear cut situation...and may vary from state to state. Anyone have any idea what the rules in Arizona are?

Found this:

‘Finding another way’ — the Gravano route
The constitutional hurdles imposed by Simon & Schuster, Keenan, Lerner and other court decisions are quite high. This may cause many states to follow the approach taken in Arizona in the case of “Sammy the Bull” Gravano.

Gravano, who served time in federal prison for organized crime racketeering activities in New York, was criminally charged in Arizona with distributing the drug Ecstasy. State officials then filed a civil action against Gravano seeking the forfeiture of many of his assets, including proceeds he obtained from a book about his life, Underboss: Sammy the Bull Gravano’s Story of Life in the Mafia.

Gravano argued that seizure of royalties from Underboss violated the First Amendment under Simon & Schuster. An Arizona appeals court rejected his arguments in State of Arizona v. Gravano (2002), ruling that the Arizona forfeiture statute, unlike a Son of Sam law, was not specifically targeted at expressive works. The court explained:

Thus, whether proceeds of an expressive work are forfeitable under the statutory scheme does not depend on the content of the work, and the Underboss royalties owed to Gravano may be subject to forfeiture regardless of the message conveyed in the book if a causal connection between racketeering and the proceeds exists. Accordingly, the forfeiture statutes as applied here are content-neutral.

Gravano appealed to the Arizona Supreme Court, which declined to review the decision. The U.S. Supreme Court also declined to review a further appeal. “I think what most states will do is what Arizona did,” says attorney Freeman. “They will avoid the Son of Sam laws altogether and find another way to forfeit a criminal’s assets, such as going under a RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations) statute. Arizona cleverly went through the state RICO law. I think more prosecutors will find creative ways to get around the constitutional problems imposed by the Son of Sam decisions.”

Legal commentator Julie Hilden wrote in a March 2004 Findlaw.com column of another method for crime victims potentially to recover damages against criminals — civil tort suits. “To the contrary, crime victims and/or their families are always free to file a multimillion dollar tort suit, going after a convicted criminal for damages,” she wrote in the column. “The point is that such suits, unlike ‘Son of Sam’ laws, are not intended to target free speech in particular.”

Hilden wrote that these laws “might best be thought of as Son of Sam law in disguise.”

California enacted one such law in 2002. The new law extends the statute of limitations, allowing victims to sue criminals for up to 10 years after the felon has completed parole.

Rohde explained that the new law was the “ultimate outcome” of the legislature grapping with the Keenan decision. “If the statute is applied evenhandedly and doesn’t single out First Amendment activity and is not used as a stalking horse for Son of Sam, then I wouldn’t have a serious First Amendment problem with the new law,” Rohde said.

Conclusion
Since Simon & Schuster, several state courts have invalidated Son of Sam laws on First Amendment grounds. The clear message from these decisions is that legislation must be narrowly crafted to survive constitutional challenges. However, many states still have Son of Sam laws on the books.

The push for restitution for crime victims will likely focus on general civil-forfeiture actions or traditional tort suits against the criminals. More states may extend the statute of limitations period for such lawsuits. What remains evident, however, is that states must clear high First Amendment hurdles before singling out the expressive works of criminals on the basis of the content of their speech.

Updated March 2012

[queenaevadamthng]

I suppose it's all the time inmates find that they have on their hands that a lot of them get in touch with their inner creative selves or find God. It ranges from painting, writing books or making toilet wine. WTH else are they gonna do.

[AZ-P.I.]

No matter what the outcome of this trial.....being a strongly spiritual person, I'd guess that Jodi will not earn her angel wings for a long loooooooooooooooooong time. ;)

AMEEEEN!!! My goal in AZ now is to bring back 'Hanging by the neck' since we only have one dose of lethal injection left to dispense. Hanging is the way we executed the last woman on death row, although it was some time ago.

[Metis212]

Does he still have a license? He had one in AZ in 1989, doesn't it have to be renewed?
http://svpexpertwitness.com/curriculum_vitae.asp

He probably has licenses in both states, otherwise he wouldn't qualify to be an expert witness. You can look up psychology licensure within the state licence website. I am on an iPad and can't access the sites. Licensure is to protect the public and therefore is public information.

[wasthinking]

Found this on wikipedia in regards to the son of sam law:

In certain cases a Son of Sam law can be extended beyond the criminals themselves to include friends, neighbors, and family members of the lawbreaker who seek to profit by telling publishers and filmmakers of their relation to the criminal. In other cases, a person may not financially benefit from the sale of a story or any other mementos pertaining to the crime?if the criminal was convicted after the date lawmakers passed the law in the states where the crime was committed.

also this:

After numerous revisions, New York adopted a law in 2001, again known as the "Son of Sam" law.[1] This law requires that victims of crimes be notified whenever a person convicted of a crime receives $10,000 (US) or more?from virtually any source.[2] The law then attaches a springing statute of limitations, giving victims an extended period of time to sue the perpetrator of the crime in civil court for their crimes.[3] This law also authorizes a state agency, the Crime Victims' Board, to act on the victims' behalf in some limited circumstances.[4] Thus far, the current New York law has survived constitutional scrutiny.

It appears it is not a clear cut situation...and may vary from state to state. Anyone have any idea what the rules in Arizona are?

I just gave a link not too long ago. Worth a read about Arizona all the way to Supreme court on the Gravano case and profittng http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/son-of-sam-laws

[Dimple blossom]

No matter what the outcome of this trial.....being a strongly spiritual person, I'd guess that Jodi will not earn her angel wings for a long loooooooooooooooooong time. ;)

As am I a very spiritual person myself, I strongly agree with you on this. She will never get them to me. But I am pretty convinced she will receive the DP and even if she doesn't LWOP would still be wonderful besides the fact she will be able to: breathe, eat, sleep, and just live, which Travis will never have. She enjoys it in there and I bet she gets her clit licked every night and vice versa, sorry that was uncalled for haha just had to

[AZ-P.I.]

He probably has licenses in both states, otherwise he wouldn't qualify to be an expert witness. You can look up psychology licensure within the state licence website. I am on an iPad and can't access the sites. Licensure is to protect the public and therefore is public information.

I find it interesting he posts his punishment from his unethical treatment case in NJ on his website as Followup Instructional Courses "Ethics in Psychology, Institute for the Study of human Knowledge, 2000, 17 hours"

[wasthinking]

AMEEEEN!!! My goal in AZ now is to bring back 'Hanging by the neck' since we only have one dose of lethal injection left to dispense. Hanging is the way we executed the last woman on death row, although it was some time ago.

http://www.csg.org/pubs/capitolideas...issue65_4.aspx

March 2013
Some states?including California, Arizona and Nebraska?were able to obtain the drug from suppliers in England and India
In some states, switching to a new drug protocol is easily done. For an execution in December, Oklahoma replaced sodium thiopental with pentobarbital, a drug commonly used to euthanize animals.

[poppym]

I definitely was not impressed by JA's artwork.

Her stuff is completely narcissistic! Every picture is a version of her (or what she thinks she looks like)! It's shite!

[AnnieBelle]

As am I a very spiritual person myself, I strongly agree with you on this. She will never get them to me. But I am pretty convinced she will receive the DP and even if she doesn't LWOP would still be wonderful besides the fact she will be able to: breathe, eat, sleep, and just live, which Travis will never have. She enjoys it in there and I bet she gets her clit licked every night and vice versa, sorry that was uncalled for haha just had to

And she can sing! Your forgot singing!!!

[wasthinking]

The Van Gogh and Monet thing may be one of the MOST idiotic things Jodi has ever lied about. Seriously, I really don't think her friend owned either one and Jodi's "art" would never be placed next to it.

From a drunken coke head she thinks she's a Monet / VanGogh.
I'm sure he has black outs too and doesn't remember telling her that to get in her 3holes

[Dimple blossom]

And she can sing! Your forgot singing!!!

Nooooo and the singing haha I completely left that goodie fact out ohhhh lawdy lol.

[wasthinking]

Question: When did Dr. Dick say that he first interviewed her?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGuZ...ilpage#t=1526s

25:27

LMAO

I was hired prior to Sept 2009

wtf kind of slippery crap is that? He's spent too much time with slasher he's talking jodispeak

[AnnieBelle]

http://www.csg.org/pubs/capitolideas...issue65_4.aspx

March 2013
Some states?including California, Arizona and Nebraska?were able to obtain the drug from suppliers in England and India
In some states, switching to a new drug protocol is easily done. For an execution in December, Oklahoma replaced sodium thiopental with pentobarbital, a drug commonly used to euthanize animals.

I always thought that a firing squad would be the one most humane. And, with someone firing blanks, no one is ever sure who fired what.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkGuZ...ilpage#t=1526s

25:27

LMAO

I was hired prior to Sept 2009

wtf kind of slippery crap is that? He's spent too much time with slasher he's talking jodispeak

Ii thought he said December 2009, maybe December 2009 is when she had her "breakthrough" ?

[*crickets*]

yeah, he was making an insensitive joke. Would have been better had he said; I was found guilty and fined for a little ethical matter back in Jersey and darn it forensic cases are lucrative and so easy, I couldn't pass this one up! Wink, wink :)). And oh by the way, let me tell you about the heyday for sex therapy back in the 70's. Virginia Masters .... Hubba Hubbard.

Ha! Sex therapy, transgender counseling...what a resume!

[queenaevadamthng]

Thank alot ya'll! You ppl just had to bring up the singing while I was having my bedtime snack and I had PTSD moment when I had to listened to JA doing her Alanis Morrisette thing and I think I threw up a little in my mouth.

[ChelseyDawn]

AMEEEEN!!! My goal in AZ now is to bring back 'Hanging by the neck' since we only have one dose of lethal injection left to dispense. Hanging is the way we executed the last woman on death row, although it was some time ago.

Hahaha, my husband just said this the other day. His comment was something like "Hanging is super cheap, efficient and you can even reuse the rope!!" Lol.

Found this on wikipedia in regards to the son of sam law:

It appears it is not a clear cut situation...and may vary from state to state. Anyone have any idea what the rules in Arizona are?

Thanks for the info! I know there are a number of motions they are trying to get passed to prevent the sale of "murderabilia." I know that a lot of Ted Bundy's items were sold - freaks me out!! Oh, or John Wayne Gacy who painted pictures of himself as the creepy clown and sold them. UGH.

No matter what the outcome of this trial.....being a strongly spiritual person, I'd guess that Jodi will not earn her angel wings for a long loooooooooooooooooong time. ;)

I fully agree. THAT is the real judge, and he knows the truth between the many, many lies. Too bad we CAN'T subpoena him!!!! ;)

And she can sing! Your forgot singing!!!

Oh nooooooo, noooooo. Don't say that! As a former voice teacher and professional singer...NOOOOOOOOO!!!! She has some raw talent that, had she received vocal training, could have made for a very nice singing voice. That's how all of her stuff is - raw and undeveloped talent. There is potential in her voice as well as her artwork, but it is untrained. I don't see Jodi ever being willing to put in the actual work it would take to be accomplished in any one thing. She wants the easy track and never stays focused on anything for long...as shown by her whole life!!!

[wasthinking]

I always thought that a firing squad would be the one most humane. And, with someone firing blanks, no one is ever sure who fired what.

I disagree, I would want society to be at least as humane as we are to animals. The law is for punishment and justice, not cold hearted revenge. Punish we must, but cruelty shouldn't be the driving force.
To use killers word, 'eradicate' the evils to protect innocent society. Like stepping on a bug, squash it fast, not pull its legs and wings off first.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Thank alot ya'll! You ppl just had to bring up the singing while I was having my bedtime snack and I had PTSD moment when I had to listened to JA doing her Alanis Morrisette thing and I think I threw up a little in my mouth.

I am diagnosing you with PTJAS. Sadly, there is no cure.

[*crickets*]

Can we take this to chit chat by any chance? I know Chauncy likes to come in here and troll (he has admitted this himself) ...but you all feed HIM (yes, he is a boy, not a girl) by responding. Then, an all out war starts and it puts the thread at risk for being shut down. (I thought the "rick roll'd" thing was funny, but not the other things, just an fyi.)

I'm not trying to boss anyone. Please excuse me if I am overstepping my bounds.

I think it's kinda entertaining...I like it.

[wasthinking]

Ii thought he said December 2009, maybe December 2009 is when she had her "breakthrough" ?

Not sure yet, lol, slippery 'Dick" has been vomiting for 26 mins and side stepping dates like he is surround by dog shit.