Felony murder is first degree murder in AZ. JM is going for premeditated and/or felony murder.Originally Posted by *crickets*
The gun is important to the felony, she either stole the gun from her grandfather or she stole it from Travis. Did you hear Martinez say that after the first stab wound, Jodi was no longer an invited guest, but she was now involved in burglary? Felony murder is a murder committed during the course of a felony. Look it up, it gets interesting.
I agree with that. We have ALL had a "fluff" post here and there.
Everyone is so grumpy with each other. The long breaks are not good for the thread. People need to lighten up. Skip posts you don't want to read and employ the ignore feature.
If we all hate on each other, then Jodi wins. Is that what you want? (Sarcasm on this last sentence.)
"You are entitled to your own opinions, but you are not entitled to your own facts." D. Moynihan
See my profile page for the location of my "Dear Diary" posts in the Jodi thread. http://mydeathspace.com/vb/member.php?82091-Justice11
http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...96#post3339196
Looking back (to page 1447) and I don't even see what you're talking about, msmichie.
Yep. Some people take this shit WAY too personally.I agree with that. We have ALL had a "fluff" post here and there.
Everyone is so grumpy with each other. The long breaks are not good for the thread. People need to lighten up. Skip posts you don't want to read and employ the ignore feature.
If we all hate on each other, then Jodi wins. Is that what you want? (Sarcasm on this last sentence.
Hey ya'll! Is it back on tomorrow or Wednesday? I heard both and don't want to miss it! Hope everyone had a great weekend!I don't think it's going to start again until Wed., but check this afternoon, just in case.
JM will still be cross- examining Jodi when we get back. When he's done, there are more jury questions and I think both sides will get to question her again.
The Justice for Travis Alexander has good recaps - minus any sarcasm. They also have videos of the court sessions.
https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Tra...xander?fref=ts
David Lohr also has videos of the sessions, minus the sidebar
http://www.youtube.com/user/crimewriter74?feature=watch
good point. i don't even know how she hurt her finger. was it from work, or was that just what she told ryan instead of the truth - that she cut it on a glass she broke at travis' the night before. in either case... no bandage in the naughty photos.
on another note: can you guys please fight some more? this shit's getting booooooooorinnng.
animosity
Fighting gets the thready closed Gitmo-style.
What's up with the burned KY Mobitt mentioned! Was that a joke?
Please please please watch this video! This girl is only 6 and wanted to kill her brother and parents. Something happened to Jodi in the first years of her life, and remember her babysitter saying on TV how Jodi used to physically torment her little brother? Watch this... Grab a tissue first!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2-Re_Fl_L4&NR=1
yes it was a joke; got me excited for a sec! Lol ;)
I've been reading Thursday's recap at the JforTA site, and when Martinez starts questioning Jodi again, it's like wow!
I'm gonna paste an exerpt just because you're bored.
https://www.facebook.com/Justice4Tra...xander?fref=ts
One of the questions was your claim that Mr. Alexander’s alleged pedophilia on Jan 21, right?” YES
“And you were asked if you told anyone else and you said yeah?” YES “DO you remember that you hesitated and said you told a psychologist and somebody else. Who else?” Matt McCartney
“He’s a person that will not betray you?” YES “And that he’s an ally?” YES “He will lie for you won’t he?” NO
“Are you aware of the statement that he made in Jan 2013 about that?” SIDEBAR (this is referring to Matt stating on the internet, facebook or a website, that he would lie for Jodi)
“You said you would tell us the whole truth?” YES “You initially told us that you told a therapist?” He’s not a therapist “OK, then a psychologist” YES “One of the ones was Richard Samuel, right?” That was not the psychologist “ I didn’t ask you that did I. Isn’t it true that one of the people that you told about this was Richard Samuels and Miss Lavulet?” Yes “They are assisting in your defense? YES “You told her what you knew about the pedophilia, right?” I don’t know how in depth I told her “Isn’t it true that you told Samuels years after you were arrested?” Yes “Isn’t it to your benefit to start saying these kinds of things?” I don’t think so I think it’s mortifying “Oh so you think it’s to your detriment?” I don’t know
“Why bring it up if it wasn’t to help you?” I was asked “So you wouldn’t have brought it up if not asked?” I don’t’ know
“You told Alice Lavulet years after you told Samuels” I don’t know
“You say that you told somebody else, right?” Yes “When did d you tell somebody else? “ April 2008 I told Matt McCartney
“When did you tell the psychologist?” I think July 2009 “What’s the name of this person?” SIDEBAR
What is going on with Matt and the psychologists?
Last edited by I doubt it; 03-12-2013 at 12:13 AM.
There's an interview on YouTube where Mr. Martinez describes how Wendi Andriano behaved while in the witness box. He said something like, "she danced all over the place." I wish I knew the link. It shouldn't be hard to find. Mr. Martinez description sorta' reminded me of the behavior of Jodi Arias.
(This is in reply to AnnieBelle's post #43093. I goofed and hit the wrong Reply button. Happens to all of us!)
Last edited by Ian 1; 03-12-2013 at 12:33 AM. Reason: add reference to Post 43093/AnnieBelle
"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
I saw that. It's frightening. It gives some credibility to that dated concept that evil does exist among us that has been supressed by modern day psychiatry. I sorta referenced that in an recent very long post. Try to find the movie, "The Bad Seed" with Patty McCormack(?) and Miriam Hopkins. It must be about 40+ years ago and was made at the time when the 'rational science' of psychiatry was offering explanations of aberrant behavior in opposition to 'irrational' philosophical/religious concepts of 'good vs. evil.' The old "Nature or Nurture" argument. You have good thoughts. I'm not invested in either side of the argument. I know it's ongoing and we're seeing an example of it in this Trial. Did something/somebody make Jodi Arias a killer, or is it there some evil ingredient she carries within her that most of the rest of us lack. There a few mental health professionals on this board who could help advance the debate.
We even have symbols for it on this thread.vs.
"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
This is off topic, but just because there is someone on this thread who is interested, here's a link to the first day of the Preliminary Hearing of Luka Rocco Magnotta that started in Montreal yesterday. It's reporter Christie Blatchford who is probably one of the best and most insightful crime/courtroom reporters on the continent. When you have down-time, try reading her archived stuff about Bernardo and Homolka and other notorious Canadian cases.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/...cret-farcical/
"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
Does anyone have a link for babysitter's interview? Ian ty for Magnotta link.
Thought I would help some of you out.
Look below a persons post. If you only want to reply to one post-click the "Reply with Quote"
If you want to read many pages and reply to all the post you want at one time-click the "quote button with the + sign" (the dark red circle in my snip picture)
When you click it, it should put a check mark there. When you get ready-click "Reply to Thread" at the bottom of of page on the right hand side (Do not click "post quick reply")
This is after I check the + to do a multi quote
If you want to leave somebody good reps or negative reps- click the star under their name in the corner (circled red). It helps if you sign your name to it. There is also a triangle to report somebody to the admin of the site. If you want to see your reps and comments- You click "Subscribed Threads" the very top of the page in the menu list.
For mobile users-some people can not quote. If you can, you should be able to scroll all the way down the page and see something that says "view full site" and you would click that.
You can probably also go to the technical/welcome newbie's part of the board and test these features out.
http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...hnical-support
Hope that helps somebody.
Last edited by bermstalker; 03-12-2013 at 03:01 AM.
How about one of you comic geniuses offering up a diary entry on how Jodi spent her long-weekend, or even a monologue from her on what she's reflecting upon. I did one a while ago on the 'end of the world/Bobby Juarez' episode and I'm afraid I've exhausted any dubious talent I might have for that kind of stuff.
We need some comic relief at this point, if for no other reason than to break the tension that is building up in anticipation of tomorrow's re-opening.
Please?
"Of all the emotions, the most dangerous emotion is love." P.D James
"Do you not realize, my son, with how little wisdom this world is run?" Baron von Oxenstiema"
TY for the tips Berm. I tried accessing full site from mobile but it says page not found under the heading.
JAII - these people have NO SHAME!!!!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_2856562.html
Here is an old article about Juan Martinez. Great read. It is an oldie, but goodie http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2002-...stice-delayed/
Holy. Shit. That was insane. I googled her now and she's a normal functioning adult: http://www.childrenintherapy.org/pro...s/thomasb.html
Looks like Mr Martinez was working Friday.
3/8/2013
LOW - List Of Witnesses/Exhibit/Evidence - Party (001)
3/8/2013 NOTE: STATES FOURTEENTH SUPPLEMENTAL
"Justice will not be served until those who are unaffected are as outraged as those who are" --- Benjamin Franklin
Looks like Mr Martinez was working Friday.
3/8/2013
LOW - List Of Witnesses/Exhibit/Evidence - Party (001)
3/8/2013 NOTE: STATES FOURTEENTH SUPPLEMENTAL
DO you think that the court will be in session on Friday since it was already a short week? I wish the judge would speed it up a bit and at least do half days on Friday and/or Saturday like they did in the Anthony trial. I'm sure everyone is burnt out, but we have to wrap it up...soon!
Can you please include link for above information - TIALooks like Mr Martinez was working Friday.
3/8/2013
LOW - List Of Witnesses/Exhibit/Evidence - Party (001)
3/8/2013 NOTE: STATES FOURTEENTH SUPPLEMENTAL
I've never seen trial on a Friday for this case. Trial days aren't the only 'work' days for the lawyers. Typically their days turn into 18 hr days and they are working out of court harder than before trial.
This notice was for LAST Friday when there was no court. Obviously Mr Martinez was still working. Arizona, their court calendars are packed. Don't expect a boatshow failure like you saw in Florida though. Judge Stephens is clearly not playing to cameras like the sham that played in Florida. IMO
two days scheduled for this week on the court calendar. http://www.superiorcourt.maricopa.go...=CR2008-031021
Agree, seems there were a lot of similarities in the way she behaved on the stand. Trying to have a nice "librarian" look and was argumentative during CEThere's an interview on YouTube where Mr. Martinez describes how Wendi Andriano behaved while in the witness box. He said something like, "she danced all over the place." I wish I knew the link. It shouldn't be hard to find. Mr. Martinez description sorta' reminded me of the behavior of Jodi Arias.
(This is in reply to AnnieBelle's post #43093. I goofed and hit the wrong Reply button. Happens to all of us!)
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