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Thread: Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Why would one need to "grapple" with these questions? Nobody makes someone a killer, you either have that in you or you don't. Circumstances and what happens in your life don't lead you to become something, they just add to the reasons that justify your actions.
    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    denn has been serial posting again, I see. I don't know what she's saying because I have her on ignore, but it looks like she's keeping up with her 10 posts a page average.

    Newbies please remember this is a message board, not twitter. You don't have to reply to every post, okay?

    And you people still talking about TA's retinas and other photo details, pen points, etc. - some of us are getting tired of it. Hints have been left. Maybe you can move this minutia over to the chit-chat thread. http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...6264-Chit-Chat

    Who knows what you might find there. You might also want to explore some other threads in MDS. There won't be much news in the Arias case until Wed., you know. Just a suggestion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    I'm getting the impression you know how to use the multi-quote feature yet there you are, still posting 3 times in a row ;)
    YIKES..I DO not know how..can someone tell me?? No wonder someone calls me a serial poster. :(

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChelseyDawn View Post
    Yeah, I wasn't sure on this, so I went back to find the original footage. Sorry guys, She does NOT reference this as the post regarding the pedophilia. She did that on the one actually written several days after it (granted it's all BS).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO9fgIL6acc

    Go to about 40 minutes and you'll find it. She tries to make the point that she accepts responsibility (as if) for herself and also to try and show negative side of Travis at the same time. However, they don't mention the pedophilia. I am sure that if she had, Nurmi would have said, "oh I'm sorry, maybe you thought you were viewing the wrong one, this is a different entry" or something along those lines to try and correct her.
    They were talking about the juror question:
    "Why was it ok to write about how Travis made you both sick and happy or sad and miserable or that something wasn't right about him?"
    Jodi answer:
    "That was a very mild way of how I sometimes felt about that darker side of him, as far as sick or miserable, as far as just the emotional turmoil and the pedophila, that was a side of him that he was trying to overcome or eradicate....."

    starting about 13 min in.

    Here is the journal entry that the juror question references that includes sick/happy/sad/miserable, dated 8-26-07.


    Pedophilia supposedly comes out to Jodi Jan. 21, 2008

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jem View Post
    Why would one need to "grapple" with these questions? Nobody makes someone a killer, you either have that in you or you don't. Circumstances and what happens in your life don't lead you to become something, they just add to the reasons that justify your actions.
    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    denn has been serial posting again, I see. I don't know what she's saying because I have her on ignore, but it looks like she's keeping up with her 10 posts a page average.

    Newbies please remember this is a message board, not twitter. You don't have to reply to every post, okay?

    And you people still talking about TA's retinas and other photo details, pen points, etc. - some of us are getting tired of it. Hints have been left. Maybe you can move this minutia over to the chit-chat thread. http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...6264-Chit-Chat

    Who knows what you might find there. You might also want to explore some other threads in MDS. There won't be much news in the Arias case until Wed., you know. Just a suggestion.
    Quote Originally Posted by TupeloHoney View Post
    Pardon me?

    OK..I am not sure how to post on this site. This was meant for Jemm..she made a snarky comment about me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    They were talking about the juror question:
    "Why was it ok to write about how Travis made you both sick and happy or sad and miserable or that something wasn't right about him?"
    Jodi answer:
    "That was a very mild way of how I sometimes felt about that darker side of him, as far as sick or miserable, as far as just the emotional turmoil and the pedophila, that was a side of him that he was trying to overcome or eradicate....."

    starting about 13 min in.

    Here is the journal entry that the juror question references that includes sick/happy/sad/miserable, dated 8-26-07.


    Pedophilia supposedly comes out to Jodi Jan. 21, 2008
    You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to M Joy again.

    Thank you, I wasn't clear on this and you've made it jive clearly now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    Poor Ron, You know she likes a man who travels. I'm sure there are a lot of places to see before you die along the way. Take some pictures. She would like that. I know you want to bang her. I''m afraid you aren't her type. She wants a man with a fine house and a BMW and who has money to travel. She's also hot for kinky, fresh Mormon missionaries. Will you convert for her?


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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    They were talking about the juror question:
    "Why was it ok to write about how Travis made you both sick and happy or sad and miserable or that something wasn't right about him?"
    Jodi answer:
    "That was a very mild way of how I sometimes felt about that darker side of him, as far as sick or miserable, as far as just the emotional turmoil and the pedophila, that was a side of him that he was trying to overcome or eradicate....."

    starting about 13 min in.

    Here is the journal entry that the juror question references that includes sick/happy/sad/miserable, dated 8-26-07.


    Pedophilia supposedly comes out to Jodi Jan. 21, 2008

    Excellent catch by those who made it!
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    denn, you might be better off using ignore instead of arguing with them. It will get you no where. That being said, there are those of us who have read all 1723 pages. A lot of what you discuss has been covered already which is a good reason to take it to the chitchat thread. You could practice multi quote there too. I may join you practicing multi quote. I tried it once and didn't get the results I desired and now am gun shy of trying here.

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    I totally agree with Wasthinking. I can't quote from mobile, but to those of you who get kinda snarky about those of us who question some of the "irrelevent" things in this case, I have to speak in defense of some of us less learned posters and clarify a few things...First off, (not in defense of JA) actually someone can be damaged psychologically by another person resulting in severe personality disorders. Secondly, it is human nature to want to know what makes things tick or what makes a person do terrible things. Even as a parent, some of us wonder if grounding a child for misbehaving will result in them growing up and hacking someone to pieces. I'm sure JA's mother didn't consider that when she tore her kids ass up with a wooden spoon. This whole case has been bogged down with irrelevant b.s. WTH does JA having a tootsie roll stuck in her cooch have to do with the fact that she callously murdered someone then stuck them in a shower stall and stood over their dead body and washed herself? Not a damn thing..just a bunch of b.s. to add to this sorrid tale. So excuse the crap outta me if my comments or questions aren't along the proper line of your thinking. I really think its tacky to try to show your superiority over the rest of us. Other than a few JA groupies we all want to see her pay for her crime. As I said b4, at this point I don't care what they do to her as long as it brings some comfort to the family of TA and keeps everyone else safe from her doing this again. My apologies for the irrelevant and longwinded rant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Excellent catch by those who made it!
    This was originally brought up (today) by TC1234. I believe Doll Face also made a comment about it last week. Great catches guys!

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    Can someone please tell me why Arias' mother and aunt are allowed to sit in the courtroom during proceedings, and whisper and laugh? What can be funny in this trial?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M Joy View Post
    They were talking about the juror question:
    "Why was it ok to write about how Travis made you both sick and happy or sad and miserable or that something wasn't right about him?"
    Jodi answer:
    "That was a very mild way of how I sometimes felt about that darker side of him, as far as sick or miserable, as far as just the emotional turmoil and the pedophila, that was a side of him that he was trying to overcome or eradicate....."

    starting about 13 min in.

    Here is the journal entry that the juror question references that includes sick/happy/sad/miserable, dated 8-26-07.


    Pedophilia supposedly comes out to Jodi Jan. 21, 2008
    Thanks for the clarification M Joy. I don't think there is much Juan can go after with that one as she will simply say that she misunderstood that they were talking about the earlier entry. But that's just me! There are so many lies to sort out, that this seems like a minor slip compared to others.

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    Denn, I would quote your post, but the last one I attempted to quote has been stuck in moderation for 5,342 hours. I would guess that the reason they are allowed is because a) no one inside the courtroom has complained directly; b) the judge hasn't noticed because Jodi's lies are infatuating to everyone or Nurmi made her sleepy and unaware; and c) Stabby will claim that they are her "support" and she has a right to have them in court, as disrespectful as they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doll-Face View Post
    What about felony murder?
    I'm not 100% sure on this but from what I've read I think felony murder is second degree murder (murder 2.) The AZ statute states that murder 2 is a class 1 felony with a 25 year max sentence.

    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    If the court gives both the first-degree premeditated murder instruction and first-degree felony-murder instruction, the court should include the following in the instruction:
    You must unanimously agree that the State has proven ?first-degree murder? beyond a reasonable doubt before you may find the defendant guilty of ?first-degree murder.? However, all of you do not have to agree on whether it was ?premeditated murder? or ?felony murder.?
    This is where it gets complicated, jury instructions. Someone earlier commented on this. Also complicated will be the jury instructions regarding what constitutes premeditation and reasonable doubt.

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    Cricket what worries me us that with all the gooblygook they have thrown into this trial that there will be a juror up there scratching his head.

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    I think Nurmi with all his booger pickin' and back tracking has created some shred of reasonable doubt as to motive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    YIKES..I DO not know how..can someone tell me?? No wonder someone calls me a serial poster. :(
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    Quote Originally Posted by oh right View Post
    denn has been serial posting again, I see. I don't know what she's saying because I have her on ignore, but it looks like she's keeping up with her 10 posts a page average.

    Newbies please remember this is a message board, not twitter. You don't have to reply to every post, okay?

    And you people still talking about TA's retinas and other photo details, pen points, etc. - some of us are getting tired of it. Hints have been left. Maybe you can move this minutia over to the chit-chat thread. http://mydeathspace.com/vb/showthrea...6264-Chit-Chat

    Who knows what you might find there. You might also want to explore some other threads in MDS. There won't be much news in the Arias case until Wed., you know. Just a suggestion.
    Are you a moderator of this forum?

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    I think this should be locked till Wednesday. It's amazing what else you can get into on this awesome site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ian 1 View Post
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    . Repeat after each quote. You will have to use your mouse and cursor to navigate from Quote to Quote. When you have typed all of your responses, click on "Go Advanced." At this point you can insert your smilies that will be placed wherever your cursor is on your screen.

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    Don't fight with people. Address the issues they raise in their posts. You are getting into too many Ad Hominem disputes. Try to be helpful. It will make you feel much better.[/QUOTE]

    Very well spoken, Ian. And a good representation of how this thread functions, and why it is so amazing! Let's keep it that way!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Can someone please tell me why oh right seems to feel the need to tell me what to do on here?

    Is it their site?

    In fact, they are so wrong about my posting 10 pages on average. And, if I do, who cares???
    Because there is a certain level of "etiquette" when entering a long running thread. It is best done with grace and a bit of humility. After all, many people have contributed to it becoming what it is, today. There is nothing more frustrating than coming on here and having to scroll 30 pages of dialogue since the previous day, only to find a hundred posts of "lol" with attachments. It comes off as being an attention hog. And it's annoying. As many have already mentioned, take it to the "chit chat" thread. And to say "who cares??" indicates a lack of respect. Yanno?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvit View Post
    I think this should be locked till Wednesday. It's amazing what else you can get into on this awesome site.
    Why should we lock it down? Because some people can't stop tap dancing on the stage, without the "hook" coming out and pulling them off? That is not a way to make friends on this thread.

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    Change "Universe" to "Thread" - and ponder on it. Come on people, "can't we all just get along?!?" (felt like lightening the mood a bit!)


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    I myself don't care to fight with anyone. Debate can sometimes be good. Silly me thought this was a forum to discuss the JA trial and those things closely related. On the most part ppl have been very kind, informative, and helpful. BUT there are a few that come off extremely snotty and condescending to some of us newbs. I'm just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by marycontrary View Post
    Poor Ron, You know she likes a man who travels. I'm sure there are a lot of places to see before you die along the way. Take some pictures. She would like that. I know you want to bang her. I''m afraid you aren't her type. She wants a man with a fine house and a BMW and who has money to travel. She's also hot for kinky, fresh Mormon missionaries. Will you convert for her?
    Yea, she's out of my price range. You're right.

    And she couldn't kill me without help.
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    Ron was the best part, hands down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron_NYC View Post
    Yea, she's out of my price range. You're right.

    And she couldn't kill me without help.


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