Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[marycontrary]

I have lots of friends in AZ who, quite wealthy, went underwater when the housing bubble burst. He was probably in that same sinking boat.

He may have made some stock market investments that went bad

[hatchan]

I don't think it was from the church...I think she said she picked it up at "the mall"?

[Harlette]

here is a history of jodi's attys - see how many times nurmi tried to get out of this
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8bs75

and the manager of the restaurant when JA cut her finger was furious and posted on the Justice for Travis Alexander facebook page. She said she was there and did the report. Wrote she couldn't believe what JA said and I think she contacted the prosecutor. She was pissed!

[Harlette]

ugh screwed up again.
Travis' struggles were in one of his rants to whimpy selfish JA. It appeared she must have been whining and Travis text came back with a kind of wth, I'm really struggling about serious things and you are whining about your day kind of thing.

I apologize for even asking if you were PPL, I should know better by now. I can see housing variances, but, again, he had roommates footing a big chunk of the bill. I'm thinking in relation to the PPL hype great success. If he was one of Chris' 'top' guys, that can't be so hot after all. how is he struggling to save his house w the great Chris mentoring Travis to riches? And Chris spewing how successful it and Travis were if you get where I'm thinking.

i don't understand why you say travis was having money problems??? where did you read that? i was reading travis never actually cashed any of jodi's checks for the bmw and tried to get uhaul to pay for it. chris said that travis wasn't working 24/7 like he did b4 jodi, but i never heard him say he was having money problems - and his house wasn't repo'd til i think at least 9 months after travis died - i just assumed the family let the bank have it because they didn't have the resources

[wasthinking]

i don't understand why you say travis was having money problems??? where did you read that? i was reading travis never actually cashed any of jodi's checks for the bmw and tried to get uhaul to pay for it. chris said that travis wasn't working 24/7 like he did b4 jodi, but i never heard him say he was having money problems - and his house wasn't repo'd til i think at least 9 months after travis died - i just assumed the family let the bank have it because they didn't have the resources

It was in a text of his. I'll try and dig around see if anyone grabbed it. He also was refinancing his house for 385.000 in Feb 2008, almost double what he paid 199.900 in 2004 for it.

[Harlette]

It was in a text of his. I'll try and dig around see if anyone grabbed it. He also was refinancing his house for 385.000 in Feb 2008, almost double what he paid 199.900 in 2004 for it.

oh ty - cuz i never heard this

[wasthinking]

It was in a text of his. I'll try and dig around see if anyone grabbed it. He also was refinancing his house for 385.000 in Feb 2008, almost double what he paid 199.900 in 2004 for it.

correction, 332,000.00

[nestlequikie]

It was in a text of his. I'll try and dig around see if anyone grabbed it. He also was refinancing his house for 385.000 in Feb 2008, almost double what he paid 199.900 in 2004 for it.

correction, 332,000.00

Lots of people "cashed out" equity in their homes (or at least they did until about mid-June 2008 when the housing market went kerplunk.) This was not necessarily indicative of financial difficulties - maybe he wanted to buy a house and flip it and become a landlord or maybe he wanted to buy a boat or make some stock market investments... Just some food for thought.

[wasthinking]

oh ty - cuz i never heard this

I thought it was really sad. JMHO but she was sickening. It sounded to me like he was under the gun with work and the house pressures, you know ... a working guys REAL life issues and she was whining some bullshit about her day. Its the one where on top of his own pressures he must have been trying to help her lazy ass out with something and she got mad and hung up on him because then he gets pissed and tells her touch, you are on your own now, you shouldn't have hung up on me. He said something to her about she had 27 hrs for PC
like a response to this isnt an emergency she must have been whining about. All from memory but I'll find the dialog if I can for you. It not only showed his pressures but how self centered this bitch is.

[hatchan]

Jodi is a "social hiker" (as in a social climber).....she just hiked up her skirt to achieve her goals. she was TA's Achilles heal.

[wasthinking]

Lots of people "cashed out" equity in their homes (or at least they did until about mid-June 2008 when the housing market went kerplunk.) This was not necessarily indicative of financial difficulties - maybe he wanted to buy a house and flip it and become a landlord or maybe he wanted to buy a boat or make some stock market investments... Just some food for thought.

I'm not saying he was homeless or anything near that! Refinancing to get out of his adj arm, get better interest rates is still one more working man's pressure. He had a 49,000 balloon, maybe just wanted out from under that or it was due. Dealing with house finances is still pressures for a working man.
I recall thinking the guy had typical pressures and here she was whining about something so stupid in her irresponsible day. Missing a meeting or some lazy ass thing. He got pissed. Who would blame him! JA wouldn't know what pressures were, she was a parasite, not a bread winner like Travis. She didn't give a shit about saving her own 'dream' for a house. Walked away without a care from Palm Desert. Hell, she couldn't hang on to one for a whole yr! Travis had had his since 2004 .. responsibily, something the parasite wouldn't understand while whining for all his time.

[wasthinking]

I'm not saying he was homeless or anything near that! Refinancing to get out of his adj arm, get better interest rates is still one more working man's pressure. He had a 49,000 balloon, maybe just wanted out from under that or it was due. Dealing with house finances is still pressures for a working man.
I recall thinking the guy had typical pressures and here she was whining about something so stupid in her irresponsible day. Missing a meeting or some lazy ass thing. He got pissed. Who would blame him! JA wouldn't know what pressures were, she was a parasite, not a bread winner like Travis. She didn't give a shit about saving her own 'dream' for a house. Walked away without a care from Palm Desert. Hell, she couldn't hang on to one for a whole yr! Travis had had his since 2004 .. responsibily, something the parasite wouldn't understand while whining for all his time.

Pls allow me to add, I wouldn't be surprised if we see more on this. Why .. because Juan is the one that brought these text in. FEB just happens to be the same month the sam artist parasite was sending sex text to Travis. Want to give you a bj, and that one Juan brought in where SHE is the one that brought up the 12 yr old school girl, and I want you pound my ass etc.

[bermstalker]

what the hell is going on here? so what? all the crazies come out at night?

Yep.

I asked this before, but nobody responded. I'll give it another shot. Were the forged pedo letters ever published in court documents or anywhere else? Do we have any idea what they said?

The national enquirer posted a few snippets from the letters that Jodi's mom tried to sell them.

It was Daryl, not Gus. Jodi said she called him several times about it, but I don't think he was hesitant. Jodi is just a PITA

I actually think the person you replied to meant Daryl. Some people call him OG (Old Guy)

Jodi is a "social hiker" (as in a social climber).....she just hiked up her skirt to achieve her goals. she was TA's Achilles heal.

If you think about it, that's really not all that true. Before Jodi ever got involved with Travis, she actually hooked up with loser guys.
Vampire Bobby, Matt, Victor, and OG didn't even have steady jobs. I would suspect that Jodi was the bread winner in those relationships most of the time.
Travis didn't have the gold ring-so Travis was not making over $100,000 (what Gus and Jodi said) so to be honest-if she was looking for a man with money-Travis would not really be what I consider "rolling in dough"
I do think she was attracted to Travis, somewhat, because he had ambition and a steady job. I think because of Travis, she started to change the type of guys she wanted to hook up with.

There has been nothing that says Jodi just casually dated men and had sex with them. To be fair, she was in relationships with these guys she was sleeping with.

[Harlette]

check this out

i just had to bump this

[elamir]

Okay I'm going to say something here and I'm sorry if it offends anyone, but it totally creeps me out that Travis shaved his pubic hair. And it wasn't Jodi who put him up to it, some people mentioned earlier that it was something his friends had known about him for awhile.

Does anyone know of any other guys that do this? Is it a Mormon thing?

You all can come after me with pitchforks now...*ducking under couch*

I think it's creepy that you think it's creepy.

My husband is Muslim and he shaves his body hair as well.

[morbidT]

Mmmm. Even hikers need lube.

Especially with all that desert dust!

[Sioux]

here is a history of jodi's attys - see how many times nurmi tried to get out of this
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/l8bs75

and the manager of the restaurant when JA cut her finger was furious and posted on the Justice for Travis Alexander facebook page. She said she was there and did the report. Wrote she couldn't believe what JA said and I think she contacted the prosecutor. She was pissed!

REALLY?!?!?! I'm going to have to go look for that. I have been following this case since court started in January. I wondered if any of these people were going to come out of the woodwork screaming, "LIAR!" Thanks for that info.

[Sioux]

i just had to bump this

Hahaha!!! Toooooo funny!!! Love the Pop Rocks!! LOL!!

[Doll-Face]

and if putting a needle in her arm gives them closure I then have to wonder if the Morman religion believes in forgiveness .....she will be gone .....long gone and they will live with the haunt.that's hell on earth ...........

If you don't personally know the family, your comments are quite insensitive. I realize some don't believe in the DP, but maybe the Alexander family does. The jury will be the decider anyway. Further, you appear to be judging them for being at the courthouse each day and for wanting justice for their brother. Please, if I'm reading you wrong, let me know. That's just how you've coming across.

[marshmallow]

Travis messed with Jodi's head big time, and payed a very steep price. After all of the traveling and special times that they shared, Travis ultimately came to view Jodi as nothing more than a sexual object. On a subconscious level, a rage started developing with Jodi as she realized how unimportant she was to him and that her only avenue to getting his attention was sexuality. Jodi, on the inside, is a very sweet girl with a vibrant creativity and love of life; however, she was not self-aware enough to see the warning signs of the rage being suppressed - and certainly lacked the foresight as to it's ultimate consequence. Travis was a smooth-talking salesman and speaker, likeable, and an aspiring "playa" with the ladies. He viewed Jodi as a conquest even after he knew that she was in love with him, and was willing to throw in her face the fact that he was enjoying pursuing and dating other girls (myspace comments, cancun, etc..).

Ok - blah, blah, blah - has the prosecution proved beyond a reasonable doubt that she planned to murder him? I think not. Yes there is considerable circumstantial evidence of premeditation, enough to give a juror the idea that there is maybe a 75-80% chance that she planned it, but without showing that she stole the gun and brought it with her - or without some other expression of intent by Jodi prior to June 4, I just don't see convicting her on Murder-1. I think that the prosecution should have taken the deal for Murder-2 and called it a day. I'm sure that the State spent many research hours sifting through texts, emails, phone calls, etc - to find evidence of Jodi having planned the crime - and all they can come up with is a circumstantial argument. Little shaky.

As for my personal bias (if not already clear from the first paragraph), I am - as my name suggests - under her spell. I could see myself falling in love with a girl like Jodi...and in fact she does remind me of my ex girlfriend/fiance. She seemed to make very poor choices with men, and I think she could have done much better than Travis - not to stomp on the man's grave. He certainly did not in any sense deserve what he go, and I don't think that she should walk free. But reading Travis's philosophizing and Jodi's, it is clear to me that Jodi was more intelligent and eloquent. I do not see her in any way as an "empty soul," as described somewhere in this thread - and I don't think that she was below Travis in any sense, except for financially. I think that inside, Jodi does feel deep remorse and sadness - and it is very unfortunate that she is not expressing this more on the witness stand. The final follow-up from her Nurmi was to re-ask her "why should we believe you now," which was a perfect opportunity for Jodi to break down and show some more humanity - but she didn't. I don't believe that Jodi is enjoying this experience or having fun (as some body language expert concluded); I think that she hates what she did, but understands that she can't take it back.

On June 4, 2008 she brutally murdered him, and I'm not really buying self-defense, but I also don't think it was premeditated. I think that Travis's ignorance and arrogance continued to push Jodi's subconscious "buttons" until she snapped. I think it's entirely possible that she did black out during some of her rage, and I wonder why we aren't hearing testimony from memory experts on this topic. For me, I remember certain details that seem irrelevant but sometimes can't remember very basic things - it is strange how the mind works, and not well understood by most of us. I think that her decision to cover-up the crime and lie as much as possible was made when she realized how brutally she had carried out the murder. She probably looked hard for that camera and can't believe that she forgot to check the washing machine with the sheets. Her actions were not ones of a methodical diabolical killer - she was consumed with panic. She was shocked at what she had just done, and understandably felt that she couldn't own up to it. This makes all the difference between Guilty and Not Guilty of Murder-1. She was too smart to execute it so poorly had it been planned as the Prosecution claims.

The whole thing is really sad for me, because I see Jodi as a beautiful spirit on the inside, for which things just went horribly wrong. It is disturbing to watch her on the stand, and realize that her life is also wasted. Some interesting commentary in this thread about how killing him may have tied her to Travis forever in her mind, and that is a fascinating possible angle. Personally, I would love to see Jodi serve a long prison sentence but have the opportunity for parole with good behavior. If she served 25-30 years in prison, showed real remorse, and was generally a positive contributor during her prison time - I am ok with her seeing the light of day in the twilight of her life. This is not meant in anyway as disrespect to Travis's friends and family, and admittedly I cannot imagine what they are going through.

far be it for me to get in the way of true love... I think she's accepting penpals.
http://maricopacounty.tallinibailbon...#jaillocations

[NCBlonde]

Wow. Did I really read this? Some posters believe Travis' family is bloodthirsty because they have the nerve to want Jodi punished for brutally slashing their loved one to death?

No, what they want is justice. They want Jodi to pay for the heinous crime she committed. And no one has the right to judge them for wanting Jodi held responsible for her deeds.

Jodi was the bloodthirsty one. Jodi was the cold-blooded killer; not Travis, not his sisters, his grandma or his friends.

And, punishing Jodi won't bring Travis back? Well, obviously, nothing can bring the deceased back, so we should totally change the law so that murder is no longer a crime. No point in punishing murderers, because doing so won't resurrect the victim. Yeah sure, makes perfect sense.

Silly me, I thought we sent murderers to jail and to their deaths because it was punishment for committing the ultimate crime of taking another person's life, in cold blood.

It is truly disturbing to see anyone criticize the family of the victim -- that would be Travis -- for wanting Jodi to be punished for her actions.

Jodi is behind bars and facing a possible death sentence, because of Jodi, and no one else. No one made her brutally murder another human being. She chose to do so. She thought she would get away with it; probably still does; and she thinks she should not have to face the consequences of her actions.

If Jodi ends up with the death penalty, it's because she earned it. Don't want a lethal injection? Don't brutally slash someone to death.

[Lilangiepangie]

Wow. Did I really read this? Some posters believe Travis' family is bloodthirsty because they have the nerve to want Jodi punished for brutally slashing their loved one to death?

No, what they want is justice. They want Jodi to pay for the heinous crime she committed. And no one has the right to judge them for wanting Jodi held responsible for her deeds.

Jodi was the bloodthirsty one. Jodi was the cold-blooded killer; not Travis, not his sisters, his grandma or his friends.

And, punishing Jodi won't bring Travis back? Well, obviously, nothing can bring the deceased back, so we should totally change the law so that murder is no longer a crime. No point in punishing murderers, because doing so won't resurrect the victim. Yeah sure, makes perfect sense.

Silly me, I thought we sent murderers to jail and to their deaths because it was punishment for committing the ultimate crime of taking another person's life, in cold blood.

It is truly disturbing to see anyone criticize the family of the victim -- that would be Travis -- for wanting Jodi to be punished for her actions.

Jodi is behind bars and facing a possible death sentence, because of Jodi, and no one else. No one made her brutally murder another human being. She chose to do so. She thought she would get away with it; probably still does; and she thinks she should not have to face the consequences of her actions.

If Jodi ends up with the death penalty, it's because she earned it. Don't want a lethal injection? Don't brutally slash someone to death.

I agree with you 100% Not even the death penalty is good enough for that witch. Eye for an Eye. She should have done to her what she did to Travis. End of story.

[Wishmich]

Wow. Did I really read this? Some posters believe Travis' family is bloodthirsty because they have the nerve to want Jodi punished for brutally slashing their loved one to death?

No, what they want is justice. They want Jodi to pay for the heinous crime she committed. And no one has the right to judge them for wanting Jodi held responsible for her deeds.

Jodi was the bloodthirsty one. Jodi was the cold-blooded killer; not Travis, not his sisters, his grandma or his friends.

And, punishing Jodi won't bring Travis back? Well, obviously, nothing can bring the deceased back, so we should totally change the law so that murder is no longer a crime. No point in punishing murderers, because doing so won't resurrect the victim. Yeah sure, makes perfect sense.

Silly me, I thought we sent murderers to jail and to their deaths because it was punishment for committing the ultimate crime of taking another person's life, in cold blood.

It is truly disturbing to see anyone criticize the family of the victim -- that would be Travis -- for wanting Jodi to be punished for her actions.

Jodi is behind bars and facing a possible death sentence, because of Jodi, and no one else. No one made her brutally murder another human being. She chose to do so. She thought she would get away with it; probably still does; and she thinks she should not have to face the consequences of her actions.

If Jodi ends up with the death penalty, it's because she earned it. Don't want a lethal injection? Don't brutally slash someone to death.

Exactly. Jodi thought she figured it all out. Her only problem was that she did it in AZ. If she didn't want the DP, stay out of AZ, TX and FL, to name a few. But, if you think you're smarter than everyone else, don't be shocked when it's sleepytime by force. When a verdict came down on the monster in my family's situation, not only did I get relief from the verdict, I had indescribable emotions when the judge was handing over the sentence. It was like YES! They all understand what this monster did to us and are going to take care of it because I couldn't. A victim's family is helpless and depends on the justice system to bring them relief...any kind of relief. Honestly, in our case, if the judge could have handed out the DP, I would have welcomed it.

[Doll-Face]

I agree with you 100% Not even the death penalty is good enough for that witch. Eye for an Eye. She should have done to her what she did to Travis. End of story.

I agree with you and NCBlonde. The truth is the worst thing about the death penalty isn't death...It's all those years of solitary confinement. That's the punishment Jodi deserves.

[NCBlonde]

I agree with you 100% Not even the death penalty is good enough for that witch. Eye for an Eye. She should have done to her what she did to Travis. End of story.

I personally don't care what happens to Jodi, so long as she never sees the outside of a prison cell ever again. If life in prison would be the ultimate punishment in her mind, I hope she gets that. And if she is scared to death to be put to death and (assuming she really believes in any kind of higher power) afraid to go to hell, well then, I hope she gets that.

She didn't care about Travis' life, or about taking it away from him. She didn't care about murdering him in an unbelievably painful, fearful and torturous way.

If Jodi gets the DP, she will lay down and fall into a painless sleep and just never wake up. It won't come close to what Travis felt. No tears for Jodi whatsoever.