Jodi Ann Arias shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander to death

[I doubt it]

The 12.99 thing is a blue plastic kerosene can. If you put it in order of price on the Walmart site, that's about the range it's in (searching kerosene)

What I find wierd is the 2 facial items are exactly the same number and the 2nd Neutrogena products are also the same. So, she bought 2 each of both of those things.

The second Neutrogena items end with BNS - which probably stands for bonus. That's why they can't find the number - it was a bonus special in June 2008 only. Probably a few extra ounces. My guess from the price is tanning lotion or possibly makeup. I'm basing my guesses on the experience I've had working in Health & Beauty.

NEU US 85 BNS decoded = Neutrogena Ultra Sheer SPF85 Bonus (sunblock special for summer 08)

I noticed there were some comments over the weekend about Jodi's Walmart receipt. So I am quoting my original posts showing how I came up with the idea she bought sunscreen. The brand company has nothing to do with how the chain's data clerk abbreviates the item name into the stores' computer system. The store clerk's don't go by the name of the product, they stock and order by numbers. I'm pretty sure she bought a kerosene can, 2 pks of the same facial cleanser and 2 pks of the same bonus suncreen.

I think she got her hair done and a Brazilian when she got her nails done. Hopefully, Mr. Martinez found a money trail.

[Wishmich]

Something I've been thinking about. She repeatedly says things like "I don't remember anything AFTER I SHOT HIM"; or, "AFTER I SHOT HIM, WE FELL", etc. etc. Now, supposedly neither one of them thought the gun was loaded...at least she didn't, right? Then how come she's not saying things like she was shocked the gun went off if it was unloaded? Most trials, when they really don't know the gun is loaded, the shooter refers to "the gun went off" "there was a loud noise" "I dropped it because it scared me so bad" "I was in shock that it went off because it was not supposed to be loaded". In other words, she knew damn well it was loaded. She never said, OMG Travis, what happened? I need to help you. NOTHING. I'm sure this isn't making sense, but just think about if you were holding an unloaded gun and something happened. You would not be thinking about fearing for you life; you would be thinking about how to help someone.

[Doll-Face]

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Okay this may seem a little weird, but I was on my cell phone last night when this wordpress site was given. I went on there and looked through every pic again. This particular pic is interesting to me because there is a glare on the back of his head from something that looks like blinds. Does anyone know where this glare came from? Is it on the original picture or was it from the Elmo in court? The reason I ask is because on my phone, I can clearly see a face in the glare. It's right behind his ear. A girl with dark hair. Unfortunately, I can't magnify it or enhance it because I'm a dodo bird when it comes to photography. If anyone can help me, I'd appreciate it (either answer the glare question or fix the picture to enhance that spot).

[Lilangiepangie]

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Okay this may seem a little weird, but I was on my cell phone last night when this wordpress site was given. I went on there and looked through every pic again. This particular pic is interesting to me because there is a glare on the back of his head from something that looks like blinds. Does anyone know where this glare came from? Is it on the original picture or was it from the Elmo in court? The reason I ask is because on my phone, I can clearly see a face in the glare. It's right behind his ear. A girl with dark hair. Unfortunately, I can't magnify it or enhance it because I'm a dodo bird when it comes to photography. If anyone can help me, I'd appreciate it (either answer the glare question or fix the picture to enhance that spot).

I think someone took a photo of the photo to post it. I don't remember seeing blinds on the original. I am not 100% though

[nyx276]

The fact that the sides of the casing did not have blood on them, convince me that she shot him last. In front of the shower. There was very little blood left, or he was dead. So, no splatter. I believe the gun was only as a last resort since (presumably the one she stole from her gparent's house) would or could be linked to her in some manner.

There has been some inference that she splashed water all over the bathroom floor in an attempt to clean up, and then abandoned the effort partway through and fled the scene. The blood under the casing looks to me like it is not diluted with water, but it could perhaps be possible that she splashed water in that area and the top of the casing was washed clean. That being said I am very much of the opinion that she shot him last when there were inadvertent movements of the body that may have freaked her out. Otherwise, the shot was a final display of rage. I totally agree with you in that the gun was a last resort because she was smart enough to realize it could link her to the crime scene. Which is why she took it with her, of course.

I was thinking about that video where Travis is describing the near-death incident with the gun to his temple. Someone mentioned already that they felt JA was capitalizing on the fear that Travis expressed he felt in that story during the killing. I agree with that the more I think about it. If you watch the first interrogation video, she seems flabbergasted when Flores puts the evidence in front of her proving wrong her claim that she wasn't in AZ. I think she went into that visit with Flores feeling she was in the clear because she had covered her tracks in so many ways already - the ninja story didn't exist yet at all. She of course didn't count on the camera (I'm convinced she scooped it up with bloody clothing by accident and threw it in the wash without realizing it). After a night in jail spent thinking about how to explain away the little bit of evidence Flores told her about, she took Travis' robbery story (already fresh in her mind) and twisted it into something that reflected a little bit of the truth, a bit of Travis' story, and shit she had seen on TV.

She's very odd to me - on the one hand she is diabolically smart when it comes to manipulating things for her benefit. On the other hand, she is clearly an idiot.

[Doll-Face]

I think someone took a photo of the photo to post it. I don't remember seeing blinds on the original. I am not 100% though

Okay, thanks. So it's just a probable glare from the copy of the original. Darn. Oh, and when I say "blinds", I don't really know what those white bars are on the pic, just that they look like blinds. They could be something else. Hope it wasn't confusing to anyone.

[Doll-Face]

Morning everybody

O/T
Time changed last night everywhere in US except Arizona. They do not recognize daylight savings time there. So get ready for trial time to be even more confusing when it resumes on Wednesday.

How does that work? Up to last night, Arizona was only 2 hours behind Michigan...and the trial started out here at 12:30 p.m. Does that mean, after last night, it's now 3 hours behind and I'll have to wait until 1:30 p.m. to watch it? Oh, gosh, I sure hope not. That's going to mess up my daily schedule. :(

[Crazy Lady]

I had a few thoughts I wanted to share.

I think the sunscreen finally made sense to me last night. What if Jodi bought one for Travis and one to confront him about taking Mimi to Cancun. I picture it like this, "I got you sunscreen for Cancun. Give this one to bitch Mimi, I know the truth that you're taking her!". Fight erupts and Jodi loses it. I can see Jodi doing something like that.

Someone asked pages ago, why did it take so long to find TA. I think that is mostly because of his schedule, the roommates were never surprised when he was not home. I think the way the house was set up, the decomp smell stayed in his wing of the house until the doors were opened. It would not have stayed there much longer, it would have started seeping into the other rooms. I think the fact it took so long to find TA, Jodi was shocked and probably was waiting on pins and needles to get the call he was found. She probably was grateful for the extra time, thinking it would be beneficial to her.

Now I have to go back and give herps for all the awesome comments.

[geevee]

It took me a long time to figure it out. There are cropped photos of him sitting. AND, one thing that is on my mind..why did she not take a face pic with the sitting pic? Something happened after that face pic. He was staring at her..like to me, how dare you..stare..mixed with other emotions. THEN, next shot: he is sitting down but no face. Something happened right at that point. I don't think she had the gun. She had to hold the camera.

Any other thoughts out there on this???

There is 1 minute and 10 seconds between the face pic and the sitting pic, I also believe something happened between the two being taken, too much time in between (unless there were other photos shot then that were unrecoverable); as the shower pics were going on the timing was getting faster (4 to 6 seconds between shots), like the amount of time for the pic to be snapped and the camera to process it to memory and then be ready for another pic - until you get to the face shot, then the 1:10 before the shower shot, something happened in that space of time, maybe she was deleting all of the previous pics in prep for the killing because the next shot is the last of him alive and in the last few pics she didn't have time to review the pic and then delete (5 steps to delete according to the camera guy who testified?) and there were 4 to 6 seconds between the last few shots (until the sitting one). I think I see a splotch of flying blood in the sitting shot but I still can't post pics to illustrate what I see. When do i get to post pics? I promise not to post the nudies or anything like that, just some parts from the shower pics.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

JUROR QUESTION: Did you tie your braids to either side of your head?

I had assume she wore it down. From the eye reflection, she tied them up on each side of the head, put on all black clothing.

Except for that inconvenient WHITE stripe running down the side of her pants

[AnnieBelle]

He could have slid down to get away from her at this second. The camera is only capturing a second of time. Perhaps his arm is above his head blocking her threats. We don't know how many stab wounds she inflicted at once. Perhaps she stabbed him once or twice in the back first. The back stab wounds were not that deep. Anyway, who knows for sure. I am just saying that it looks to me that there is something under his buttocks other than the drain.

We've already gone over this subject.....that is a drain in the shower he's sitting partially on. And if he'd been stabbed, or wounded, there would be blood spatter or stream showing up. His position is also too relaxed to have been already wounded. He wouldn't just stay seated and passive like that. Remember, within a couple of minutes from his closeup, he is dead. Her attack was swift and effective. And he fought her like hell.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

You quoted me

That line is just perfect!

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

I don't see the shadow....I see expanded darkness of some kind under his rear end. The drain does not look tilted in the photo of the shower after his body was removed. If he was standing with his back to her, she could have stabbed him and then he slid down the side to get away. At least one of his arms is up in the air in this photo. Oh well, only Jodi knows for sure....

The picture of him sitting in shower alive w/drain under him and pictures taken after his death were taken from different angles and under different lighting conditions.

[AnnieBelle]

She has the camera in front of her face. It looks like her hair is in braids. She is dressed in all black.

I'm just not seeing this at all. Sorry.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

That's kind of a stretch. Jodi had none of these things at the time she met Travis. She was a destitute former 'Real Estate Investor' (foreclosure on the Palm Desert house was imminent) and her life with Darryl was pretty much finished. Darryl was preparing to follow his ex-wife and his son back to the Monterey Peninsula Area. That was more important to him than Jodi.

From her perspective, Jodi was saying to Travis, " I would do it do it for you, that's why you should do it for me. That's a typical self-serving rationalization an obsessed suitor comes up with to justify invading the life of the object of their obsession. In fact, Jodi Arias had nothing to give or to give up. (Except the pretty well-used, you-know-what). Jodi was never able to nor prepared to give or give up anything unless there was some immediate repayment in kind. She was a 100%+ taker. The most we ever heard of her 'giving' was the bag of groceries she anonymously dropped off on the front porch of Bobby Juarez house in Yreka to spare him from going hungry after clearing out-- and we can't even be sure if that 'magnanimous' gesture is true. Sounds more like what an obsessed 'stalker' would do rather than a concerned friend.

Not a mountain to die on, but it Crystal does take some liberty with the facts on the ground.

"Jodi iss also a stone stepper. She climbed up all the loser stones to get to the top stone, Travi" is the part I thought was bang on, as well as the portion about her trying to isolate him.

As far as liberty with facts on the ground, she's not the only one! Hell, we can't even agree here that 's the shower drain under TA in the last pic of him taken alive.

[Jillee]

How does that work? Up to last night, Arizona was only 2 hours behind Michigan...and the trial started out here at 12:30 p.m. Does that mean, after last night, it's now 3 hours behind and I'll have to wait until 1:30 p.m. to watch it? Oh, gosh, I sure hope not. That's going to mess up my daily schedule. :(

It is now 8:54am Arizona time. Arizona time is now the same as California time PST.

[Sneakers the Wonder Dog]

Morning everybody

O/T
Time changed last night everywhere in US except Arizona. They do not recognize daylight savings time there. So get ready for trial time to be even more confusing when it resumes on Wednesday.

Great, Nurmi will be another hour slower than usual

[gypsy1197]

I agree with this. I don't think there is any proof that Travis preferred anal, except Jodi's words, which can't be trusted. Even though he does mention it in the phone sex tape, for all we know she had encouraged him to say that by mentioning beforehand that being tied to a tree and having anal sex was a fantasy of hers that she wanted to "explore" next time the had phone sex. Then she recorded him saying it. I find that scenario just as likely as Jodi's version that tries to make Travis look somewhat kinky.

That's been my feeling all along. I even think she may have been the one to tell T that anal wasn't really sex so it was okay/in keeping with the chastity law. He may have had experience in oral and thought that was allowed. I don't trust a word Ms A says. She instigated the phone sex tape for blackmail.

Her final straws were the text message saying she was a sociopath and that she was the worst thing that ever happened to him. She decided to prove him right.

I was for LWOP but after viewing Tanisha and Steven's interview with Beth C, I've changed my mind. DP only would be acceptable.

[AgathaAppleswine]

I have so many questions about this case, but I'll settle for discussing just two things.

There were two juror questions that really stood out in my mind. The first one that has stayed with me is that one question focused on the Spiderman underpants, and how Travis did not like Spiderman, so why would he buy those for her? I thought that was a pretty insightful question myself. Jodi's answer was quite odd, and it felt like it was made up.

That leads to my first question: Did Travis actually have a "special" relationship with any child? Did he exhibit ANY signs of being a pedophile, like being super involved with kids, or having kids over, or owning toys or games that might be considered odd for a man his age to own?

The second juror question that struck me as insightful (and frightening) was the one where the juror asked about Jodi's story of the fictitious ninjas, and how at one point, she said Travis was on all fours. The question asked whether or not this was actually a part of the true killing. Of course, Jodi says she can't remember...but it begs the question: Just how much of that story is indeed based on the actual events of that day?

I had one other comment, and it makes me feel weird for saying it, so please don't laugh. The phone sex tape, Travis sounded disinterested, bored, and tired. He also doesn't sound that experienced in dirty talk; some of what he said sounded clumsy and uncertain to me. Yeah, he said some filthy things to her, but it seems to me that she may have enjoyed hearing him degrade her. And for all we know, she begged him to do this so, and she planned to use it to ruin any future relationships he had.

Then again, I wonder if he was accusing her of scamming him and of being horrible, if he hadn't been gathering his own type of evidence against her. Maybe the crime had a little to do with jealousy, but maybe he had some knowledge of some other wrong-doing, and she went there to make sure it was never found.

[OnehundredCats]

How does that work? Up to last night, Arizona was only 2 hours behind Michigan...and the trial started out here at 12:30 p.m. Does that mean, after last night, it's now 3 hours behind and I'll have to wait until 1:30 p.m. to watch it? Oh, gosh, I sure hope not. That's going to mess up my daily schedule. :(

From: http://callsforjustice.wordpress.com.../#comment-5646
PSA

Court will be dark Monday and Tuesday, resuming on Wednesday, March 13.

Daylight Saving Time (United States) begins at 2:00 AM on Sunday, March 10. Arizona does not observe daylight savings.

So next week, for the east coast, court will begin now at 1:30pm. Adjust your schedule for your time zone!

Update: Judge wants to start at 10am which now changes east coast to 1pm!

[acertaingirl]

HONESTLY - that photo and the one with Travis sitting, has totally bothered me. I cannot place my finger on it. I don't think she had a gun pointed at him. If someone pointed a gun at me, I think my eyes would get very big and my mouth drop open. I think she was trying to get him into a position where she could stab him. I do believe she had it all worked out in her mind before she got there. She was doing it on the long drive. Gun was last resort due to the type of caliber and too close to the stealing from her Gparent's home.

Unfortunately I *have* had a gun pointed at me (it ended up being a plain clothes detective, but I didn't know it at the time). I was eating a jelly doughnut, sitting at my desk. I dropped the doughnut, froze and said "you have GOT to be kidding me". I could only imagine the look on my face as I was staring down the barrel of that gun. That was 27 years ago, it was something I will never forget.

I cannot imagine the terror going through T's mind seeing Jodi standing there with a knife, gun, or both. THAT is one of the many reasons JA deserves the DP.

[lorizfree]

Something I've been thinking about. She repeatedly says things like "I don't remember anything AFTER I SHOT HIM"; or, "AFTER I SHOT HIM, WE FELL", etc. etc. Now, supposedly neither one of them thought the gun was loaded...at least she didn't, right? Then how come she's not saying things like she was shocked the gun went off if it was unloaded? Most trials, when they really don't know the gun is loaded, the shooter refers to "the gun went off" "there was a loud noise" "I dropped it because it scared me so bad" "I was in shock that it went off because it was not supposed to be loaded". In other words, she knew damn well it was loaded. She never said, OMG Travis, what happened? I need to help you. NOTHING. I'm sure this isn't making sense, but just think about if you were holding an unloaded gun and something happened. You would not be thinking about fearing for you life; you would be thinking about how to help someone.

Exactly..no one in their right mind would accidentally shoot someone they love, without any concern for the person they would shoot. Much less continue to stab them 29 times and slit their throat. Her story doesn't jive at all.

[lorizfree]

How does that work? Up to last night, Arizona was only 2 hours behind Michigan...and the trial started out here at 12:30 p.m. Does that mean, after last night, it's now 3 hours behind and I'll have to wait until 1:30 p.m. to watch it? Oh, gosh, I sure hope not. That's going to mess up my daily schedule. :(

Yes, it would be 3 hours ahead now. I'm in AZ, and it's currently 10:06 am.

[Poppycock]

I'm not sure if this was prosecution or defense. But the jury has seen them!

This is some crazy stuff here! It may be referring to the sex tape done on the 10th. This and whatever he sent her via FB could be what sent her over the edge. She already knew about Mimi, from hacking his accounts and phone. Would like to see the rest of this thread and the FB message.

I don't think he knew she was coming that fateful day, or if he did, she told him over the phone late at night so as not to have him mention it to anyone. She knew not to text or email anything about the visit since she was going to claim having not been to Mesa since April. (though she likely tampered with his phone that day) If he knew ahead of time, there was a chance he would mention it to someone, and she could not risk that.

She snuck in and watched him for a while at around 4 a.m.; if the doors were locked, she used the doggy door. The big question is, after this text message, how could he be seduced by her this day. He should have been repulsed.

This trip to Mesa was not on the way to West Jordan whatsoever, it was so far out of the way that the detour makes no sense other than for what she is accused of, premeditated murder in the first degree. I only wish she could suffer like Travis did.

[gypsy1197]

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