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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    This is so uncanny, as I really felt like each eye was saying something different. It shocked me to see the mirror image of the left eye; it was the eye showing fear. The eyebrow on the right was lowered; to me, it seemed sad.
    I agree....I have always thought that he is seeing her pointing a gun at him, or knife, in this shot. His eyebrows, eyes, mouth....this is not a relaxed expression. He looks stunned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harlette View Post
    i think the helio was the replacement phone - it was her old phone they found and got her texts out of
    I bet that shocked the hell out of her!! Course, she has no feelings. She cannot feel pain, fear, or love. She is void inside. The jurors cannot understand it, nor can most people. What makes a sociopath? She lacks remorse and believes she is smarter than any of these clowns. I hope Martinez is motivated to get her. He may not have come up against someone as slippery as she is on the stand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Thank you!!! Cause that is what I am seeing too.

    Agreeing to disagree. I believe ALL of the shower pics were taken with the shower door open. I believe the water is still running in the photo were he is seated as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    I agree....I have always thought that he is seeing her pointing a gun at him, or knife, in this shot. His eyebrows, eyes, mouth....this is not a relaxed expression. He looks stunned.
    Did you see the eye series?? Where they made images of him with two right eyes and two left eyes. It was haunting to me of that left eye. I think this was on web slueths and why the person who has that site closed the thread. People were taking things off it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Whoever did that video of the timeline in the bathroom needs to send it to the Martinez. PLEASE!! I thought about calling that office and telling them how informative it was for me to see how her story COULD NOT pan out.!

    Hope the person who made it sees my post! Cause I am really impressed with that video. I imagined myself as a juror watching it rather than looking at a piece of cardboard with dimensions and showers, walls..etc..
    Do you mean the photo collage? Or the shower vid? Either way, if it is mine .. FYI ... lol ... you'd never see me contacting anyone!
    Orignally the back story to that is as you suggest though, a visual I made it to help myself really back when JM was putting them in at court. I'm a have to see it together kind of person. I never once accepted he was posing. But, my mind was jumbled trying to see them all collectively and in relation to timestamps. So, I put them in line by times and WOW, surprised myself.

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    Linda Crystal has explained some of the things about Jody that we all are wondering. She is a forensic specialist. It as very interesting what she had to say about her.

    Linda Crystal
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    Google her. I was fascinated by her opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    She had to about fall over in shock when she heard Flores tell her he had photos of them!!
    Her reaction was more like, "reeeeeeeeeaaaalllllyyyy???? can I see them??"


    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Yes, she was questioned. She testified that she was afraid to run out of gas in the desert, which is why she borrowed the cans.

    HA! We know this is a lie. But, Martinez needs more than gas cans to prove premeditation, because this could seem plausible to some jurors - she was traveling at night. What adds to the complete picture is many other factors that could tie into premeditation. The turning off of the cell, the changing of the hair, the gas cans. She also lied about how far she was going when she rented the car. So - all of it is circumstantial with respect to premeditation. They obviously cannot prove whose gun it was, even though we all know. It cannot be assumed by the jurors. Anything that happened thereafter, would not be considered premeditated.

    If Martinez can tie them all together and get the jurors to believe him, that is the key. I do believe he thought he had it in the bag with just these things and wished he had really hammered her more on her lies. He was jumping all over the place.
    Thanks, I heard all her original testimony about why she initially got the gas cans but that was all before she knew/planned on going to see Travis (according to her, of course).

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    Do you mean the photo collage? Or the shower vid? Either way, if it is mine .. FYI ... lol ... you'd never see me contacting anyone!
    Orignally the back story to that is as you suggest though, a visual I made it to help myself really back when JM was putting them in at court. I'm a have to see it together kind of person. I never once accepted he was posing. But, my mind was jumbled trying to see them all collectively and in relation to timestamps. So, I put them in line by times and WOW, surprised myself.
    I WISHED you would contact them. I am very serious. Your video of the scene where she ran into the closet made it all very clear to me!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnehundredCats View Post
    The duct tape found at the scene is definitely a mystery and hopefully is explored more in the coming days/weeks. I believe it was speculated here or somewhere else that she possibly taped the knife to her body.
    or taped the knife in her hand

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    [QUOTE=OnehundredCats;3350051]
    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post

    Her reaction was more like, "reeeeeeeeeaaaalllllyyyy???? can I see them??"



    Thanks, I heard all her original testimony about why she initially got the gas cans but that was all before she knew/planned on going to see Travis (according to her, of course).
    Someone was asking earlier why she bought them. I was just writing what she testified to in court.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bryanwasdrunk View Post
    or taped the knife in her hand
    I would have never guess that one. Did any of her purchase receipts show duct tape?? Wow..be amazing if they did..dammit. I want to assist Martinez.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post

    He had his knees up, how can she get a STRAIGHT in stab with his knees blocking a good swing in?
    So far she's claimed several positions: crouched, kneeling, a one knee crouch .. and now on jury questions said STANDING.

    How can they BELIEVE her?? I would have already formulated my opinion due to so many lies. She takes the cake for being the world's greatest liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilangiepangie View Post
    He had a fire in his eyes. I could see and feel his passion at home. I guarantee there is more to come!
    I'll say this about Juan Martinez ... his passion has made me cry more than once. I would have given anything in the world to have a Juan Martinez care so deeply and work so hard for not only justice but the family. I may criticize minor things only because I worry about the jury. But it is never meant as any reflection on him. He is human, can't be perfect but ...
    I know the devastation of not having a Juan Martinez fighting for justice on your side instead of some lazy ass dont' give a shit prosecutor. It compounds the pain for a lifetime!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    I'll say this about Juan Martinez ... his passion has made me cry more than once. I would have given anything in the world to have a Juan Martinez care so deeply and work so hard for not only justice but the family. I may criticize minor things only because I worry about the jury. But it is never meant as any reflection on him. He is human, can't be perfect but ...
    I know the devastation of not having a Juan Martinez fighting for justice on your side instead of some lazy ass dont' give a shit prosecutor. It compounds the pain for a lifetime!
    I love the man. He can marry me!! Love his fire and his passion. I read his statics on putting people on death row. 95%. He is not a dummy.

    I am sorry for your loss. I read your pain and my heart tugged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Linda Crystal has explained some of the things about Jody that we all are wondering. She is a forensic specialist. It as very interesting what she had to say about her.

    Linda Crystal
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    Google her. I was fascinated by her opinion.

    odi is not a victim of domestic violence. Jodi is the abuser. Jodi tried to eliminate all her competition by making Travis out to be a womanizer, a beater, a pervert, the whole thing. Isolate and control. Nobody would want him. She tried to isolate him from his friends, family and church. This all through sex. Some women use food.

    I believe that Jodi is also a stone stepper. She climbed up all the loser stones to get to the top stone, Travis. She gave up a relationship and house for him, then he dumped her. The commitment that Jodi made was for life. So she felt that Travis should have done the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    The water id dripping off/running off his face. The shower door was OPEN. All of the shower pics were taken with the door OPEN
    I also agree with Denn...in that particular pic, water is definitely running down his face....but the shower door is closed. You can see water droplets and spray all over the glass as well as glare. The next one in sequence, the door is open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acertaingirl View Post
    That's why I want to know the date of the picture, perhaps it was taken the day of the murder?
    I think he is going with this: if it was as bad a cut and he thinks, she would have reported it to the manager. A juror asked something about worker's compensation report. She blabbed on and on about how the place she worked was so small, they were not a part of WCC. My boyfriend is an attorney. So, she had no CLUE what she was saying about her employer not having workers' comp. Most places are required by law to pay to have it for their employees if they get injured. She is so full of shit. Talked out of her mouth and spewed more BS as if she was smarter than anyone in that room.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    I WISHED you would contact them. I am very serious. Your video of the scene where she ran into the closet made it all very clear to me!!
    oh, that one, sorry that one is not mine. No offense to the creator, but they have errors in that one, Juan would catch them and discard it I would think. I don't think the court would allow something like that, that is only suggestive of multiple theories. Plus if you study some of Juan's other cases, he is a theory man, not a multiple theory man. He creates one picture for a jury, makes perfect sense since why would he want to offer more that risks only adding confusion for a jury to ponder. But, he is also a visual aid kind of guy, he tends to favor those diagrams he does. I wouldn't be surprised if in the end we do see something like the stand alone collage though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    I'll say this about Juan Martinez ... his passion has made me cry more than once. I would have given anything in the world to have a Juan Martinez care so deeply and work so hard for not only justice but the family. I may criticize minor things only because I worry about the jury. But it is never meant as any reflection on him. He is human, can't be perfect but ...
    I know the devastation of not having a Juan Martinez fighting for justice on your side instead of some lazy ass dont' give a shit prosecutor. It compounds the pain for a lifetime!
    I don't know your story, but I feel your passion and pain in your words. We are lucky to have your incite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnieBelle View Post
    I also agree with Denn...in that particular pic, water is definitely running down his face....but the shower door is closed. You can see water droplets and spray all over the glass as well as glare. The next one in sequence, the door is open.
    HONESTLY - that photo and the one with Travis sitting, has totally bothered me. I cannot place my finger on it. I don't think she had a gun pointed at him. If someone pointed a gun at me, I think my eyes would get very big and my mouth drop open. I think she was trying to get him into a position where she could stab him. I do believe she had it all worked out in her mind before she got there. She was doing it on the long drive. Gun was last resort due to the type of caliber and too close to the stealing from her Gparent's home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wasthinking View Post
    oh, that one, sorry that one is not mine. No offense to the creator, but they have errors in that one, Juan would catch them and discard it I would think. I don't think the court would allow something like that, that is only suggestive of multiple theories. Plus if you study some of Juan's other cases, he is a theory man, not a multiple theory man. He creates one picture for a jury, makes perfect sense since why would he want to offer more that risks only adding confusion for a jury to ponder. But, he is also a visual aid kind of guy, he tends to favor those diagrams he does. I wouldn't be surprised if in the end we do see something like the stand alone collage though.

    Well, I think this is a very complicated case. He knows it. But somehow this jury seems to want to believe her. If not, why do they keep asking questions..you told so many lies, why should we believe you now? ..when, I really think they need not focus on her words, but the evidence. Seems to me they are focusing on her bullshit words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    odi is not a victim of domestic violence. Jodi is the abuser. Jodi tried to eliminate all her competition by making Travis out to be a womanizer, a beater, a pervert, the whole thing. Isolate and control. Nobody would want him. She tried to isolate him from his friends, family and church. This all through sex. Some women use food.

    I believe that Jodi is also a stone stepper. She climbed up all the loser stones to get to the top stone, Travis. She gave up a relationship and house for him, then he dumped her. The commitment that Jodi made was for life. So she felt that Travis should have done the same thing.

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    COOL! You posted the site for me. I am on my boyfriend's mac. I am not use to using it and cannot locate how to cut and paste..:( BUT, thank you for posting the site!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sneakers the Wonder Dog View Post
    Juan Martinez still has the rest of his cross of Stabby to complete, the two defense expert witnesses to cross and then his rebuttal case to put on.

    No way Martinez says in open court in front of jury that Salinas Wal-Mart has no record of return of gas can for that entire day without being able to back it up. Willing to bet at this point we will see a Rep from Tesoro testify that third purchase was gas.

    Also willing to bet that defense does NOT call Matt McCartney to testify for Stabby. The jury will wonder why the ONE person she supposedly told this fairytale to BEFORE she was arrested and who she claims would not betray her did not show up.

    My money is Juan Martinez.
    Im so curious to see how this works out. Nurmi objected immediately after this .. approach ... did Juan tell the Judge your honor, I have someone coming in on rebuttal? Or was it some other legal to stand on w no one to come in? tapping my toes to see what happens. : ) Would Juan pull a trick, sure, all attys do but it remains to be seen if this is one he speaks but leaves hanging in their minds. Bad news if that is the case imo. Then again, we all know jurors aren't suppose to consider what attys say, but we also know... they do it anyway.

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    Can someone go to the State v Arias on FB and pull off the images they did of his face? I cannot do it because I am not familiar with this laptop.

    They made mirror images of the left and right eye; each image evoked a different expression. It was totally amazing to me. It sort of haunted me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by denn View Post
    Well, I think this is a very complicated case. He knows it. But somehow this jury seems to want to believe her. If not, why do they keep asking questions..you told so many lies, why should we believe you now? ..when, I really think they need not focus on her words, but the evidence. Seems to me they are focusing on her bullshit words.
    I was getting that feeling too, either they are wanting to believe her or they want to be completely positive before handing her the DP, I don't think they're feeling any middle ground here, nothing or everything. I'm really hoping the latter but you just never know. She's been in the courtroom with them for a long time now, and the more familiar they are with her, the less chance of them giving the DP.

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